Topic: "The Dragon Returns" - Castlevania Lords of Shadow Sequel (HERE BE SPOILER INFO)

[Slit_Zurifa]

@ Ahasverus:

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Err I did watch the Zobek fight on twitch but I didn't saw any flying scythes. All I saw where is melee attacks with the giant scythe he holds (which has quite a big range) and a green lightning ball that tracks you but that is spawned rarely. And not to forget the Zombies that spawn two times during the fight. I didn't see any flying mini scythes though O_o. Which attacks did he have beside his melee attacks and the green homing/ tracking lightning ball?

[MKKhanzo]

Cox came out today and said 2D Castlevania is not possible anymore.

LOL why? Because they cant, nobody can then? HA

[Kamirine]

LOL why? Because they cant, nobody can then? HA

Coming from a GamesTM interview with David Cox, producer of the Castlevania: Lords of Shadows series...

I think those days (of 2D Castlevania games) are gone, yes. I think hardcore gamers would love to play another 2D Castlevania, but the reality is that it’s a very niche market and Konami really want this series to be mainstream again. We took this direction in order to reach that bigger audience, otherwise we would have carried on with the 2D approach. That’s not to say I don’t think there will ever be another 2D game in the series, it might happen but just not from MercurySteam. When you look at the future on PlayStation 4 and Xbox One, I don’t think people want to play 2D games on those consoles. Core gamers may still want something like that, but there’s an expectation among the wider public for big, epic games.

Meanwhile, I am looking forward to the very 2D Child of Light and Mercenary Kings on my PS4.  I just like games: I don't care what 'D' it's in.  I guess I'm in the minority, niche market. 

[jormungand]

Finished the game last night after 12+hours.
I was highly disappointed by the final battle and the ending. Now I realize that many parts of the story are very nonsensical or illogical. (Like Dracula being able to use elevators and light switches without hesitation) Also, they waste characters with good potential like Victor Belmont.

Too bad, this was one of my most anticipated games of the year. 

[Kamirine]

Finished the game last night after 12+hours.
I was higlhy dissapointed by the final battle and the ending. Now I realize that many parts of the story are very nonsensical abd illogic. Also, they waste characters with good potential like Victor Belmont.

Too bad, this was one of my most anticipated games of the year. 

If you don't mind me asking:  what came off as illogical or nonsensical?  And was the final fight still good but just lack luster after

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Zobak/Death

or just lackluster in general?

[Flame]

Finally got my code from GMG. preloading now.

by the way, I'd like to say how good it feels that it is installing over the demo version. That's just glorious.

[jormungand]

If you don't mind me asking:  what came off as illogical or nonsensical?  And was the final fight still good but just lack luster after

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Zobek/Death

or just lackluster in general?

Well I need to explain it with spoilers so if you haven't played the game don't read

Nonsensical like:

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-Last time, Dracula was an enemy of Alucard. Then LOS 2 starts and they are like good father and son.
-The hole monster gas plot thing is a poor excuse to have the city crawling with monsters.
-Dracula being able to use elevators, light switches and other modern tech without hesitation
-The Lieutenant that was never questioned about his identity and Zobek carries him around like his bodyguard but...where the hell he got that guy from?
..and more I don't remember right now

About the final battle

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I feel the last battle being more like a tribute to SOTN than a real final battle. I was expecting that now that Satan has regained his power and looks more badass we could see a battle with two final forms or so...instead we get a fairly easy and forgettable battle with just one man and his sword after all of those boss battles with giant monsters,demons,Death,etc.
 

[Intersection]

LOL why? Because they cant, nobody can then? HA

Just ignore Cox's occasionally idiotic comments. He's been making them for years now.

DAT final battle. Did they outsource that to Platinum games or something? 

I'm too tired and overwhelmed to post a full review, perhaps tomorrow, but I'm more than satisfied. What a game, what a ride. What a ride these years have been guys, these years with you.

Time to celebrate! Cheers, and thank you Mercury!

Glad to see you back on track, Ahasverus. But keep in mind that some of us don't have their LoS2 copy yet, and that you're not exactly easing the wait... 

[Chernabogue]

The game's only out on the 27th in Europe, but I'll try to get my copy earlier. I can't wait anymore. 

[Intersection]

Launch trailer.

[New & Official] Launch Trailer HD [Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 2]

[DragonSlayr81]

Saw the end video posted earlier in the thread...

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... really lackluster, IMO. For one, don't care for the look of Leviathan. Looks like they were going the whole FFX Sin route. And Satan possessing Alucard, fighting on a chunk of the exploded Leviathan... meh. As someone else said, him being impaled(like a vampire, no less) and dying rather unspectacularly was also meh. After viewing many of the other boss fights, this and it's result pales in comparison.

The toy maker. Holy crap, the toy maker section. 11/10

It was an interesting break of pace(in a good way). Too bad...

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it's really a small section. I wasn't expecting a large explorable area like in MoF, but maybe something larger than what we get in this one.

[thernz]

Uhh, I have a major plot question about the castle.

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What is the castle dimension exactly? It seems to be actually corporeal in a sense, and characters do reference that (like the second acolyte), but no one seems to acknowledge what it actually is. Zobek mentioning that Dracula disappeared without a trace, or that he was gone for a long time seems to imply that his activities there still take time too. I think I missed something.

[Agreus]

Uhh, I have a major plot question about the castle.

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What is the castle dimension exactly? It seems to be actually corporeal in a sense, and characters do reference that (like the second acolyte), but no one seems to acknowledge what it actually is. Zobek mentioning that Dracula disappeared without a trace, or that he was gone for a long time seems to imply that his activities there still take time too. I think I missed something.

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It's similar to the old series. The dimension is corporeal but comes from Dracula's mind.

One of the supposed plot holes isn't one.

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Alucard and Dracula didn't start a enemies. Alucard proposes his deal to Dracula after the castle siege, that's when we know he's a sympathetic charactwr and know his motives, he does all that he does because while he feels he was wronged by God, he knows that as long there is a Dragon, Satan and
Zobek won't try to conquer earth and that seems a good trade off.

[thernz]

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i figured it was dracula's mind, but i wasn't sure because of the mirror of fate fragments.

i guess dracula's ultimate power is creating a universe in his head, huh.

[Agreus]

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i figured it was dracula's mind, but i wasn't sure because of the mirror of fate fragments.

i guess dracula's ultimate power is creating a universe in his head, huh.

No, it is physical but is triggered through Dracula's mind. In other words, he can manifest the true Castle.