Topic: "The Dragon Returns" - Castlevania Lords of Shadow Sequel (HERE BE SPOILER INFO)

[Ahasverus]

Satan is more of. Vehicle than a character.

[Kingshango]

Belmont as a main character.

Dracula as the main antagonist, no more origin story bs. Just make him the guy you fight at the end, plain and simple.

Traditional platforming.

Make it less llike God of War, or perferably nothing like God of War.

Make it challenging, yet fair.

Have more traditional Castlevania music, Get Yamane back if possible or someone of equal talent.

Have it set in a castle full of monsters from B horror movies and various mythologies.

Make a new timeline or set it in the old one, doesn't matter either way.

And finally:

Make it 2D, not 2.5D, not 2 half and 1/4 quarters, 2motherfuckinD.

BAM, there's you're Castlevania.

P.S: make it a Classicvania like Adventure Rebirth, Give the Metroidvania format a rest.

[Ahasverus]

No and no and no. I won't stand a return to Dracula being a silent villain at the end.

[Mike Belmont]

Totally agree with you, @Kinshango. Castlevania deserves a return to its roots.

To this far, and after spoiled myself almost everything, and after seen a few videos, and after all these years of LoS lore, I prefer to consider this saga as a spinoff of Castlevania, because you play as the main antagonist of it: Dracula. I want to play as a true blooded Belmont (not a Cronqvist bastard).

And I do not consider LoS 2 as a metroidvania, neither a SoTN 2.0. To me, metroidvania belongs to 2D, like Super Metroid or SoTN. Calling Darksiders and Arkham games metroidvanias is strange for me... And if LoS 2 is a SoTN 2.0 in terms of great sales, yes, is a SoTN 2.0...

[Maedhros]

I just want something with good gameplay... is it too much to ask?

If I see a fucking "platforming" section in Castlevania ever again...

[Kingshango]

Well I knew my suggestion's wouldn't please everybody but it is what it is. Sorry Ahaversus.

Anyway, some trivia regarding the ending from the leak guy and how it was originally gonna end:

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Dracula was gonna originally kill Satan while he was still in possession of Alucard, killing them both and destroying the Vampire Killer in the process. After he's stabbed, Trevor's spirt in his adult form, lifts out of his body, smiles and ascends into Heaven. Dracula drops on his knees crying now knowing that the VK is destroyed and can't join him but then becomes glad that he was able to be freed from his curse. Credits roll, the end.

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Alucards cyborg design was inspired by Raiden apparently.

[Ahasverus]

That orignal ending was ballsy as fuck. But the man deserves a bone. Hi life is too tragic.

What does the leak guy say about Sonia?

[Mike Belmont]

Oh and

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Alucards cyborg design was inspired by Raiden apparently.

Forgive me about these, but Alucard reminds me to this guy:

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Jake, from Nanobreaker

[Maedhros]

So Ahasverus, there's or not real platforming sections on this game, now that you finished?

[Kingshango]

Forgive me about these, but Alucard reminds me to this guy:

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Jake, from Nanobreaker

nearly thew up in my mouth, thanks for reminding me of that game.

Oh and I left out another detail about the ending

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The ending we got was chosen because Konami wanted characters alive for possible sequels

What does the leak guy say about Sonia?

He said that Mercurysteam has already moved on, so no(?)

[Intersection]

Well I knew my suggestion's wouldn't please everybody but it is what it is. Sorry Ahaversus.

Anyway, some trivia regarding the ending from the leak guy and how it was originally gonna end:

(click to show/hide)

Dracula was gonna originally kill Satan while he was still in possession of Alucard, killing them both and destroying the Vampire Killer in the process. After he's stabbed, Trevor's spirt in his adult form, lifts out of his body, smiles and ascends into Heaven. Dracula drops on his knees crying now knowing that the VK is destroyed and can't join him but then becomes glad that he was able to be freed from his curse. Credits roll, the end.

Now, that is an actually interesting ending. Perhaps tragic, perhaps unforgiving, but so very fitting -- in other words, that is the ending that should have been.
Besides, Dracula's story it isn't meant to be black and white -- and it's definitely not a matter of "deserving a bone", either. This ending simply makes sense in context. The one Konami opted for seems completely at odds with the game's premise.

Oh and I left out another detail about the ending

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The ending we got was chosen because Konami wanted characters alive for possible sequels

And this is very worrying...

[uzo]

Belmont as a main character.

Dracula as the main antagonist, no more origin story bs. Just make him the guy you fight at the end, plain and simple.

Traditional platforming.

Make it less llike God of War, or perferably nothing like God of War.

Make it challenging, yet fair.

Have more traditional Castlevania music, Get Yamane back if possible or someone of equal talent.

Have it set in a castle full of monsters from B horror movies and various mythologies.

Make a new timeline or set it in the old one, doesn't matter either way.

And finally:

Make it 2D, not 2.5D, not 2 half and 1/4 quarters, 2motherfuckinD.

BAM, there's you're Castlevania.

P.S: make it a Classicvania like Adventure Rebirth, Give the Metroidvania format a rest.

I agree except for:

2.5D is great. I wouldn't mind that at all.

I don't really see a problem with having similar combat to God of War. I still don't understand the outcry on this one. THough you're asking for 2D gameplay anyway, so it's kind of a moot point either way.

I don't mind the exploration style, just lay off the RPG elements a bit. Lament was perfect in that you gained equipment, not level ups.

[Kingshango]

The review embargo will be lifted at midnight according to IGN.

What shelter is strong enough for the shitstorm that is to come?

[Mike Belmont]

I vote for a hack n´slash game, but please, without QTE, even if this can be turned off .

And I prefer a 2D sprite game over a 2.5D one, like DXC or MoF, I believe...

[Dremn]

Oh and I left out another detail about the ending

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The ending we got was chosen because Konami wanted characters alive for possible sequels

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But there's no one left besides Dracula and Alucard...? Who would they be fighting?

I also don't have an issue with 2.5D, as long as it looks great and everything on screen is readable.

I have a feeling whatever form 2D Castlevania takes next, it will be taking some cues from LoS.