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The Castlevania Dungeon Forums => General Castlevania Discussion => Topic started by: darkmanx_429 on May 21, 2020, 09:31:23 AM
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I got into a debate with a friend of my about the Castlevania 34 year legacy and Konami's lack of proper compilations when it comes to the franchise.
I am a proponent of Konami making either 1 multi disk containing the majority of titles, for a limited physical special edition release or a multi disk box set for hardcore fans of the franchise.
Obviously, the franchise is still popular, but their slot machines and microtransaction cell phone games leaves alot to be desired with fans. Also the lack of no true 2d follow up sequel to the IGA story-arc means any new Castlevania console release is in development hell.
Recently, there was the release of Caslevania Requiem and Konami didn't even use the opportunity to include Dracula X Chronicles for a digital console release. (Even though I own that title.)
There was The Castlevania Anniversary Collection which only contained 8 games. There are nearly 40 titles in the franchise and numerous 2D titles that could have been converted from portables to digital releases. It's infuriating and these "compilations" all seem like Konami is just bastardizing the Castlevania franchise into quick money grabs. Yet they will use millions on brand new 3D models and CGI for slot machine games?!
With brand new consoles on the horizon again, I believe that physical and digital releases have got to the point where storage size has become less significant. I am fairly confident at the minimum Konami could put ALL the 2D Castlevania games into 1 compilation disk with trophy's, art, digital manuals, commercials etc. for a proper Legacy Pack. I think this has been long overdue.
I am curious if you could build your own compilation disk of any Castlevania title from any system into one or a multi disk set what would they be. Please list them below.
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Konami sits on gold but will prefer to release SotN for Samsung fridges or Pachislot 6 before we see a second Collection with Metroidvanias.
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Konami sits on gold but will prefer to release SotN for Samsung fridges or Pachislot 6 before we see a second Collection with Metroidvanias.
This is all facts.
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Personally I would release every CV title, both English and Japanese versions, into a single compilation. It would be all the games from the classic series, the IGAvania series, as well games made during IGA's time that he wasn't part of. The only ones I'd leave out are the slot games as those to me aren't castlevania. An extra disc would be for all the extra stuff (artwork, storyboard, etc.). And another set of discs containing the soundtracks of all the games plus enhanced versions of older tracks from the Gameboy, Advance, NES, SNES, and Genesis titles. It would be a CV fan smorgasbord. The only other games I'd leave out would be the Mercurysteam titles.
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Konami sits on gold but will prefer to release SotN for Samsung fridges or Pachislot 6 before we see a second Collection with Metroidvanias.
I for one wish to see Pachislot 6.
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I for one wish to see Pachislot 6.
Why am I not surprised. :P
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I’m all for volume 2 of the Anniversary collection (might need a new name unless they wait for the next anniversary). Basically, just the next 8 games, following whatever criteria they deem best. Though if we end up getting yet another sotn port, they should take the time to make it worth our while and include the saturn version localized.
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At The very minimum I would like a compilation disk of the IGA Timeline:
1094 – Lament of Innocence
1476 – Dracula's Curse
1479 – Curse of Darkness
1576 – The Adventure / The Adventure ReBirth
1591 – Belmont's Revenge
1691 – Castlevania / Chronicles
1698 – Simon's Quest
1748 – Harmony of Dissonance
1792 – Rondo of Blood / The Dracula X Chronicles
1797 – Symphony of the Night
18?? – Order of Ecclesia
1897 – Dracula
1917 – Bloodlines
1944 – Portrait of Ruin
2035 – Aria of Sorrow
2036 – Dawn of Sorrow
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@Darkmanx Technically Kid Dracula is also on this timeline, as Galamoth from SOTN travelled back from this era. Since Castlevania Collection has quite a lot of the 2d games already, the sensible thing would be for Konami to do a 3D Castlevania Collection instead. I for one would prefer they included the non-Iga games if it meant we could play CV64 and LOD.
I genuinely believe that at some stage there will be a handheld CV Collection with GBA + DS titles. If we count Requiem, Collection & potentially Collecton 2, this then completes a Collection Trilogy.
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IGA did make Kid Dracula a part of the CV timeline, however I feel it didn't make sense to do-so. Sure we have Galamoth in there as well as some of the other enemies that eventually ended up in SotN, but that still doesn't give it the kind of clout needed to fit into CV seamlessly. Kid Dracula was made as an SD spoof of CV and it was not to be taken as serious/literal as the CV series was. Kid Dracula was cute for what it was but I don't see it as being part of the CV timeline. Though others will argue otherwise It just doesn't work in my mind.
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@Darkmanx Technically Kid Dracula is also on this timeline, as Galamoth from SOTN travelled back from this era. Since Castlevania Collection has quite a lot of the 2d games already, the sensible thing would be for Konami to do a 3D Castlevania Collection instead. I for one would prefer they included the non-Iga games if it meant we could play CV64 and LOD.
I genuinely believe that at some stage there will be a handheld CV Collection with GBA + DS titles. If we count Requiem, Collection & potentially Collecton 2, this then completes a Collection Trilogy.
That why I also suggested a multi disk box set. Maybe the 2-D versions on disk 1 and the 3-D versions on disk 2?
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Lol... Galamoth being present does not make kid Dracula canon any more than any of the other recurring characters. What are you guys even talking about?
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Lol... Galamoth being present does not make kid Dracula canon any more than any of the other recurring characters. What are you guys even talking about?
Why don’t you use your own rationale rather than “It ain’t canon cuz I sayz it ain’t.... Lulz”
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That why I also suggested a multi disk box set. Maybe the 2-D versions on disk 1 and the 3-D versions on disk 2?
Much as I’d love this Konami are so lazy that with Requiem they used PSX Rondo’s art style but didn’t bother including Rondo’s latest 2.5d version which came with DX Chronicles.
They’re grubs our for cash grabs, so I’m being a realist. If there were to be two disks, the likelihood is they’d release two separate entries.
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Much as I’d love this Konami are so lazy that with Requiem they used PSX Rondo’s art style but didn’t bother including Rondo’s latest 2.5d version which came with DX Chronicles.
They’re grubs our for cash grabs, so I’m being a realist. If there were to be two disks, the likelihood is they’d release two separate entries.
That is if we do get any type of other compilations...
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That is if we do get any type of other compilations...
You know what, Adventure Rebirth, Legends and the GBA and DS titles are now quite difficult to come by.
I believe at some stage, these will be made digital for purchase. I'm excluding 64 and LOD because they'd require quite an overhaul to be remotely appealing to contemporary fans. I can totally see LoI and CoD being released with upscaled graphics in a Requiem-like package.
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To be fair, they did describe the Anniversary collection as the first Anniversary Collection, so at the very least, they do plan on doing at least one more collection.
I don't see them including any of the 3Dvanias in the package, nor do I see them using any of the DSvanias, since they'd actually need to be changed quite a bit to work on anything that isn't the DS or 3DS.
Ideally, what I'd want out of a second collection, assuming they're doing 8 games again, is:
-Adventure ReBirth, which is impossible to purchase now.
-Castlevania Chronicles, especially since it's technically two games
-Castlevania Legends, which is especially hard to come by these days
-Circle of the Moon
-Harmony of Dissonance
-Aria of Sorrow
-Vampire Killer
-Haunted Castle
And then, additionally, it'd be nice if they made Requiem multi-platform instead of a PS4-exclusive. Maybe do an update to put DXC and Dracula X into the collection, same way they updated the first collection to add the Japanese versions of the games?
If they did do the 3D games, though, it'd be nice if that were its own separate collection. Just CV64, LoD, LoI, and CoD all in one package. Or if they wanted to be lazy with it, just cut CV64 (though I prefer the stories of the CV64 cast in the original game rather than their LoD versions).
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To be fair, they did describe the Anniversary collection as the first Anniversary Collection, so at the very least, they do plan on doing at least one more collection.
Come on man, we all know what they meant. It's the first Castlevania collection, as in there's never been one before. It does not mean a second one is coming.
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Come on man, we all know what they meant. It's the first Castlevania collection, as in there's never been one before. It does not mean a second one is coming.
Hence why I said "at the very least, they do plan on doing at least one more". Planning on something does not mean actually doing it.
Also, it's hardly the first Castlevania collection of any kind. Chronicles, Dracula X Chronicles, the PC Castlevania/Contra collection, the GBA Dual Pack, Requiem. They've been doing Castlevania collections for years now.
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Hence why I said "at the very least, they do plan on doing at least one more". Planning on something does not mean actually doing it.
Also, it's hardly the first Castlevania collection of any kind. Chronicles, Dracula X Chronicles, the PC Castlevania/Contra collection, the GBA Dual Pack, Requiem. They've been doing Castlevania collections for years now.
Literally nobody considers 2 or 3 games a legitimate collection, not in a series of 30+ games. It is painfully obvious that this is what they meant.