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Anyone hear about this new bill (US Law)?
« on: December 02, 2007, 12:44:00 AM »
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http://thomas.loc.gov/home/gpoxmlc110/h1955_rfs.xml


According to this site: http://www.newstarget.com/022308.html, it seems that its very broad.... And if its as broad as it syays... there goes Freedom of speech.

EDIT: Its not passed yet, it made it through the House of Reps with a massive vote though.

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Re: Anyone hear about this new bill (US Law)?
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2007, 05:33:55 AM »
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http://thomas.loc.gov/home/gpoxmlc110/h1955_rfs.xml


According to this site: http://www.newstarget.com/022308.html, it seems that its very broad.... And if its as broad as it syays... there goes Freedom of speech.

EDIT: Its not passed yet, it made it through the House of Reps with a massive vote though.

WHAT?? I will NOT stand for that! Our founding fathers went through so much hardship to gain that right!! If they eliminate Free Speech, then that will be the bigest disrespect to US history I've ever heard of! Mot to mention the fact that so many people have valuable opinions that must be expresed and well heard!!! This is so not cool!  >:( >:( >:(
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Re: Anyone hear about this new bill (US Law)?
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2007, 06:08:08 AM »
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If this bill gets passed...dear God...if this is an attempt to get people to side with the administration, that's just laughable.  This deception needs to be blocked, and I pray to God that this law doesn't pass.
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Re: Anyone hear about this new bill (US Law)?
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2007, 07:18:19 AM »
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Its probably about that time to start moving out of the country...

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Re: Anyone hear about this new bill (US Law)?
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2007, 07:30:24 AM »
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I'd rather stay here and start a new revolution.

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Re: Anyone hear about this new bill (US Law)?
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2007, 07:35:04 AM »
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Its probably about that time to start moving out of the country...

I hear ya, that bill is bullshit, Goddamn it George haven't you done enough damage?  >:(
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Re: Anyone hear about this new bill (US Law)?
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2007, 08:04:29 AM »
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Goddamn, this sounds like the McCarthy Red Scare all over again...
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Re: Anyone hear about this new bill (US Law)?
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2007, 08:24:36 AM »
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I'd say it's good to be in Canada (like I always do) but it's inevitable that Bush will invade Canada first when he starts his dictatorship.

Amazing that KMFDM has been saying that the USA is the new USSR or Nazi Germany for years. They've been calling it the USSA ever since the turn of the century. You all need to listen to "New American Century", "Urban Monkey Warfare" and more of their recent KMFDM songs about the USA to really get the impact.
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« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2007, 11:53:14 AM »
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Re: Anyone hear about this new bill (US Law)?
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2007, 01:24:27 PM »
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Wow..
I never expected this.
It almost reminds me of Rome's downfall..
in a sense.
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Re: Anyone hear about this new bill (US Law)?
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2007, 03:32:16 PM »
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Well it hasn't been past yet, so you can't say its his fault ( unless he is the one who got them to make the bill ) It still needs to tbe passed by the senate before it reaches his desk, and he signs it ( or veto it ).

EDIT: Btw I mean, its not his fuck up yet. If he signs it and passes it, it is. But then again if he knows it'll pass anyway  and decides not to sign it to look good towards others, thats not good either, its just not clear to us if hes trying to dig his own grave or not.
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Re: Anyone hear about this new bill (US Law)?
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2007, 04:02:37 PM »
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All I have to say about Bush is that he'd better be assasinated. Remember the old Indian curse, and the pattern of assasinated presidents? Well, from what I remember, Bush is next in line!  :)
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Re: Anyone hear about this new bill (US Law)?
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2007, 05:44:36 PM »
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I'd rather stay here and start a new revolution.

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Re: Anyone hear about this new bill (US Law)?
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2007, 06:58:58 PM »
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...the USA is the new USSR or Nazi Germany...
Oh yeah, because the American government has totally started the annihilation of its jewish citizens and packed others into concentration camps.  ::)

Jeez, aren't you people overreacting? Obviously those of you asking for assassinations and "starting" revolutions are kids who don't know what they're talking about, but the rest of you should know better.

You don't live in a dictatorship, you live in a democracy. This means that one person cannot pass laws all by themselves. If this bill is as horrid and self destructive as your reactions seem to evoke, then I am sure that the reasonably minded members of parliament(yes there are a few) will not let it pass. Simple as that.
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Re: Anyone hear about this new bill (US Law)?
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2007, 07:29:56 PM »
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You don't live in a dictatorship, you live in a democracy. This means that one person cannot pass laws all by themselves. If this bill is as horrid and self destructive as your reactions seem to evoke, then I am sure that the reasonably minded members of parliament(yes there are a few) will not let it pass. Simple as that.

Congress, not Parliament.  But yes, you are correct...

...except as of late, these senators and representatives have had a bit of a corruption thing going on.  This, combined with Republicans being accepting of the idea of the loss of rights in order to 'stop the terrorists' thing that's been going on...
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