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Re: Dmitrii Blinov - A Lost Opportunity
« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2014, 05:27:49 PM »
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Castlevanis was sealed inside the eclipse in AoS. In DoS the castle the game takes place in is an abandoned amusement park meant to cater to the old horror fiction the was prevalent throughout the 20th century. However the park wasn't successful and was shut down. Then the cult moved in and made it their base of operations. In short there is no castlevania in DoS, just a look-a-like.

Uh wat??

Where did you get this info o.O ?
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Re: Dmitrii Blinov - A Lost Opportunity
« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2014, 11:45:12 PM »
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I stumbled across a website that had some pretty detailed info that was not mentioned in DoS. Mind you this was several years ago so I doubt i could find the site again. Also I just checked out the CV Wiki and it explains that it was the cult themselves whom built the castle, so I'm not entirely sure what's what.
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Re: Dmitrii Blinov - A Lost Opportunity
« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2014, 12:24:17 AM »
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The amusement park sounds like a better idea to me, other than some cult having the funding and ability to just rebuild Dracula's castle complete with eldritch architecture and all that jazz. I like it better as an amusement park that they opened a portal to hell inside of.

Also, Id prefer if the whole Dark lord thing DoS did was forgotten. That was really bad. For one, neither Dario nor Dimitri were likable at all. Dimiitri had a VERY interesting power, with his copy ability being essentially an inferior derrivative of Soma's power, but he was still pretty bad.

Also, the idea of a bunch of superhumans running around with powers because they were born when Dracula died, really cheapens the idea that when Dracula died, he didn't just explode into confetti that spread his powers around, he specifically wound up reincarnating as Soma.

it makes Soma's existence feel cheap.

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Re: Dmitrii Blinov - A Lost Opportunity
« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2014, 12:27:28 AM »
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It's funny because I always assumed that it was a castle in the Netherlands.
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Re: Dmitrii Blinov - A Lost Opportunity
« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2014, 01:53:44 AM »
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@X: yeah, I think I remembered reading that too. And it is the most likely scenario since I don't think Celia's cult is greater than Graham's.

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Re: Dmitrii Blinov - A Lost Opportunity
« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2014, 08:00:36 AM »
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Also, the idea of a bunch of superhumans running around with powers because they were born when Dracula died, really cheapens the idea that when Dracula died, he didn't just explode into confetti that spread his powers around, he specifically wound up reincarnating as Soma.

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I always thought that was kinda silly too...I mean I guess the idea of there being "superhumans" out there could make some sense, if you consider the idea that the Belmonts were said to be quite super.  But being born on the day Drac died, therefore being a potential candidate to become Drac reincarnate seemed silly...like the "soul" of Dracula had a smorgasbord to choose from...a "one-you-can-eat" buffet of who to use to bring him back.  I guess that could be the point of these cults, gather all the potentials and make Drac come back, but it still seemed silly to me.

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Re: Dmitrii Blinov - A Lost Opportunity
« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2014, 09:46:05 AM »
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And it is the most likely scenario since I don't think Celia's cult is greater than Graham's.

I think what had happened is that after Graham's death was confirmed by the authorities Celia started her own movement based on Graham's, and those who formally followed him flocked to Celia's cause. Arikado does mention that Celia is the leader of a new and rapidly growing cult so in that retrospect Graham's church could have been absorbed into Celia's. Either that or she took over and made it her own.
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Re: Dmitrii Blinov - A Lost Opportunity
« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2014, 11:02:34 AM »
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The idea of the castle in DoS being a former amusement park would be pretty silly, I think. Seems like something someone just made up unless it originates from Japanese only material, but I doubt it. You could also argue the cult didn't neccesarily built the castle themselves. I'm sure they are plenty of abandoned haunted castles in CV universe's version of Europe. Also, I'm not sure, but I recall Graham's cult reappearing in Kabuchi no Tsuisoukyoku, so Celia's cult is probably unrelated.         

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Re: Dmitrii Blinov - A Lost Opportunity
« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2014, 09:46:58 PM »
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The idea of the castle in DoS being a former amusement park would be pretty silly, I think. Seems like something someone just made up unless it originates from Japanese only material, but I doubt it. You could also argue the cult didn't neccesarily built the castle themselves. I'm sure they are plenty of abandoned haunted castles in CV universe's version of Europe. Also, I'm not sure, but I recall Graham's cult reappearing in Kabuchi no Tsuisoukyoku, so Celia's cult is probably unrelated.         

IGA's Japanese, so... There are a lot of abandoned Japanese amusement parks in Japan. A fictional one was featured in Miyazaki's movie "Spirited Away". He must have been thinking that such abandoned ones do exist elsewhere in the world.

That's what I believe as well. Celia's cult is different from Graham's. But there might be some people who are members of both. Or we see another one of IGA's plot holes.

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Re: Dmitrii Blinov - A Lost Opportunity
« Reply #24 on: November 12, 2014, 09:52:24 PM »
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I think Celia explained her cult built the castle to be the exact replica of Dracula's Castle.

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Re: Dmitrii Blinov - A Lost Opportunity
« Reply #25 on: November 12, 2014, 11:05:19 PM »
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Do you know which segment in DoS that happened? I'd be interested in reading it  :)
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Re: Dmitrii Blinov - A Lost Opportunity
« Reply #26 on: November 13, 2014, 01:06:52 AM »
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I think Celia explained her cult built the castle to be the exact replica of Dracula's Castle.

Which was their first mistake, since the true Castlevania has no singular form. Creature of Chaos and all that jazz.


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Re: Dmitrii Blinov - A Lost Opportunity
« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2014, 04:51:26 AM »
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Koji Igarashi says "ドラキュラ城を模した近代建築 (Modern architecture which imitated the Dracula's castle)".
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Re: Dmitrii Blinov - A Lost Opportunity
« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2014, 05:03:15 AM »
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So the amusement park thing was just somebody's fan fiction.

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Re: Dmitrii Blinov - A Lost Opportunity
« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2014, 06:28:19 AM »
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Do you know which segment in DoS that happened? I'd be interested in reading it  :)
Don't remember the segment but I found this from the Wiki (I think it's from Celia's official background in the manual): "(...) Celia arranges for the construction of a massive replica of Castlevania (...) and populates it with summoned Castlevanian demons, and then she proceeds to lure Soma into it, intending to see him die.'

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