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Title: Favorite non-canon Belmont?
Post by: SiFi270 on December 28, 2012, 04:32:24 AM
I'd say either Simon III, for being able to kill Dracula in one hit, or dream sequence Soleil from The Belmont Legacy, for how he responds to being kidnapped by Dracula.

The only reason I'm not including Sonia is because she's totally canon to me.
Title: Re: Favorite non-canon Belmont?
Post by: crisis on December 28, 2012, 05:47:22 AM
just a reminder for the misinformed, the only reason Legends was removed from the classic canon is because it contradicts CVIII, but I still like her (well, the idea of her) for being the "mother" of all Belmonts

my fav non-canon Belmont is prolly Gabriel
the other non-canons are Desmond, Victor, Delores, Zoe, Marie, Reinhart(?), Christopher's wife from the comic, and perhaps you can add MoF-Trevor/Simon, since ya know, the whole "LoS is not part of the CV-canon" stuff Cox is always talking about
Title: Re: Favorite non-canon Belmont?
Post by: X on December 28, 2012, 10:41:01 AM
Nathan Graves from CotM. He has an interesting character and while I'm sure that he isn't a Belmont (not just in name), I've come to feel that he's more Belmont then some of the others that IGA has created.

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just a reminder for the misinformed, the only reason Legends was removed from the classic canon is because it contradicts CVIII

Not necessarily. Putting aside the Alucard + Sonia bit which is very lose in explination, the only contradiction so far is that IGA has stated that Trevor was the first Belmont to defeat Dracula. But that's what IGA has said and it doesn't reflect the time before he was involved with CV. And the original year that CV III took place was around 1492 whereas IGA has now changed it to 1476. CV legends could have easily fit into the timeline with 20 years to spare. More then enough time for Trevor to grow into the Belmont warrior we all know.
Title: Re: Favorite non-canon Belmont?
Post by: crisis on December 28, 2012, 02:45:39 PM
Not to turn this into a debate, but..

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the only contradiction so far is that IGA has stated that Trevor was the first Belmont to defeat Dracula.
He wasn't the first to state this

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And the original year that CV III took place was around 1492 whereas IGA has now changed it to 1476.
Source?

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CV legends could have easily fit into the timeline with 20 years to spare. More then enough time for Trevor to grow into the Belmont warrior we all know.
It's not that the game does/doesn't fit, it's the fact that CVIII's story explains that it's the first time the Belmonts battle Dracula. Legends clearly (perhaps intentionally?) contradicts this, and then there's the presence of Alucard which he shouldn't even be there if you factor in Lisa & Dracula's courtship, etc. If Trevor wasn't originally established as "the first," then Legends could still be canon & we could have dozens more games taking place in the dark ages between the 12th-14th centuries fighting Dracula. Someone could argue "well Dracula prolly wasn't killed when Sonia fought him so it doesn't have to contradict CVIII," but that's just fanon now. One could argue "LoI contradicts CVIII," but Leon never engaged Mathias in battle. But to IGA-haters, there's just no convincing them, sadly.
Title: Re: Favorite non-canon Belmont?
Post by: X on December 29, 2012, 12:58:04 AM
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Source?

Konami. They put out a timeline several years before IGA made his. It was mentioned in the Dungeon back in the 90's. I saw it back in 97.
Title: Re: Favorite non-canon Belmont?
Post by: Nagumo on December 29, 2012, 01:29:39 AM
When I was able to ask IGA a couple of questions on Facebook he said he removed Legends because "it ignored Castlevania's look". So IGA really hates Legends. I really think that's the reason. That and the fact that he wanted to make his own origin story. 
Title: Re: Favorite non-canon Belmont?
Post by: Chernabogue on December 29, 2012, 05:17:27 AM
Gabriel Belmont!
Title: Re: Favorite non-canon Belmont?
Post by: VladCT on December 29, 2012, 05:37:59 AM
I don't really know, but if I were to pick one, it'd probably be Reinhardt.
Also, I wonder how'd you guys react if someone were to pick Kokoro Belmont (from Otomedius, in case you forgot) as their favorite. I also wonder why she has to be shoehorned as Julius' freakin' sister.
Title: Re: Favorite non-canon Belmont?
Post by: X on December 29, 2012, 10:41:46 AM
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I also wonder why she has to be shoehorned as Julius' freakin' sister.

Maybe cause her popularity was virtually zero with how she was presented and all. Not only that but her sense of fashion isn't all that it's cracked up to be. Even I could have given her a much better outfit (And a more appropriate whip too).
Title: Re: Favorite non-canon Belmont?
Post by: beingthehero on December 29, 2012, 05:56:24 PM
X-sama, I don't think many people play girly-themed shmups for the clothing styles...
Title: Re: Favorite non-canon Belmont?
Post by: Pfil on January 19, 2013, 12:48:22 AM
I guess Sonia would be my all-time favourite non canon Belmont.
Title: Re: Favorite non-canon Belmont?
Post by: Reinhart77 on February 07, 2013, 10:42:38 PM
Can't not be a Sonia Belmont fan. 
Title: Re: Favorite non-canon Belmont?
Post by: Munchy on February 08, 2013, 12:03:05 AM
Nathan because he can do the coolest stuff with the magic cards.

...Does he count?
Title: Re: Favorite non-canon Belmont?
Post by: Lone Wolf on February 13, 2013, 11:28:57 AM
@Nagumo: Nice sig! ^__^

Btw, is Alucard a non-canon Belmont?
Title: Re: Favorite non-canon Belmont?
Post by: Lelygax on February 18, 2013, 07:21:08 AM
Nathan because he can do the coolest stuff with the magic cards.

...Does he count?

That can sound random, but you remembered me of "Yu-Gi-Oh!" now, thinking about that now Im surprised that they didnt put a "Yu-Gi-Oh!" related enemy in POR Egypt's stage. xD
Title: Re: Favorite non-canon Belmont?
Post by: son_the_vampire on February 18, 2013, 11:40:23 AM
Gabriel... He is Dracula(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia1.gameinformer.com%2Fimagefeed%2Ffeatured%2Fkonami%2Fcastlevanialordsofshadow2%2Flordsofshadow2-652-610.jpg&hash=5d95c19572e98d04c90898844693ee74)
Title: Re: Favorite non-canon Belmont?
Post by: X on February 18, 2013, 06:50:14 PM
Actually Gabriel isn't Dracula. He's Dracul. He even says this in the trailer for LoS 2.
Title: Re: Favorite non-canon Belmont?
Post by: Hypocrates on February 18, 2013, 07:32:19 PM
Remember Tim Curry Belmont?

So non-canon his game was never even released to be retconned.

Title: Re: Favorite non-canon Belmont?
Post by: Lelygax on February 18, 2013, 10:18:02 PM
Simon Belmont from Captain N.