Topic: King Diamond

[JR]

nor a stupidly low one (like the generic metal bands).

Nothing wrong with some well-done gutteral vocals. Not sure how that's a sign of a generic band, either. O_o

[Wallachia]

right on PFG. Exactly.. cool of you to read and see how much work goes into a concept album. I think Flotsam & Jetsom does them here and there too. Love that stuff. Adds another layer to the music

[Claimh Solais]

Nothing wrong with some well-done gutteral vocals. Not sure how that's a sign of a generic band, either. O_o

Apparently nobody noticed I wrote stupidly low. I like low voices. The Amazing Brando, in particular, delivers them quite well.

...Even though he's not metal.

[JR]

Yeah, but I'm talking specifically about guttural vocals, like Cannibal Corpse, Vehemence, etc.

[Claimh Solais]

I know, and I understand that. But I'm talking about the guys that feel the need to go so low you can't understand what they're saying. Like, lyrics are required to be with you.

[JR]

Yeah, I follow. But then you started talking about how you like low vocals in general, so I wanted to make sure we were talking about the same thing.

It is a style that makes it hard to enunciate with most vocalists, but it fits the mood so well with the music that I don't really care. It's a plus when a vocalists can be perfectly clear in that style, though. Although I'm not much of a fan of the band, Deicide's Serpents of the Light is a perfect example.

[Claimh Solais]

Yeah, it's just with me, I prefer to understand what one is saying during metal, cuz they're a buncha mean dudes. Like, for example, he could be saying this while screaming: "I'm gonna slaughter your family and eat your soul and make sure I bury you alive somewhere off the coast of Asia!" And I'd be all like: "DAMN THAZ AWSUM!"

So yeah.

Of course, it's a whole different case for some reason or another when listening to foreign music, but that's a whole different topic.

[JR]

One vocalist I wished I could understand better (even though he's still pretty clear nowdays) is Trevor Strnad of The Black Dahlia Murder. I've never heard lyrics so sickening, yet so expertly written. I really think metal lyrics in general are mediocre at best, but this guy makes it an art form by comparison.

[Claimh Solais]

Trivium is one group that's never been great at writing lyrics, but the delivery is great... If that makes sense. I've always felt Atreyu had excellent lyrics.

[Wallachia]

Speaking of low, gutteral, dark brilliance.. anyone hear the latest Hate Eternal? Abnormal Freak, you would love this shit, listen to the production value:

Haunting Abound, great track, my favorite.. seers right through you, AND you can hear the words, listen:
Hate Eternal "Haunting Abound" (OFFICIAL)

[Abnormal Freak]

Apparently nobody noticed I wrote stupidly low.

I don't get how "stupidly low" = generic metal. Demilich has incredibly low vocals and they're FAR, far from generic.

Demilich-The Sixteenth Six-Tooth Son of Fourteen Four-Region

[Abnormal Freak]

Anyway, I may hate Trivium, but the frontman did a good job on vocals on Capharnaum's Fractured...though I'd prefer the guitarist/songwriter/producer had done 'em himself in his Mike DiSalvo-esque voice.

Wallach: I'll check out that tune tomorrow or somethin'. No headphones or speakers at the mome'.