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Title: Konami considering new Castlevania game on Switch. Harmony of Despair 2 ?
Post by: affinity on March 09, 2018, 06:49:01 PM
here is the rumors

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/konami-is-thinking-about-bringing-a-new-castlevania-game-to-the-switch.1461387/ (https://www.neogaf.com/threads/konami-is-thinking-about-bringing-a-new-castlevania-game-to-the-switch.1461387/)

discussions are ongoing, the TV/animated series is an influence.   

they could use Harmony of Despair, double the amount of chapters, playable characters (and feature animated series Trevor and Sypha included in the roster),
new loot, enemies, bosses, and retain the 6 players co-op and 4 players local co-op, and call it Castlevania Harmony of Despair 2.  :)

 
Title: Re: Konami considering new Castlevania game on Switch. Harmony of Despair 2 ?
Post by: aensland on March 09, 2018, 07:25:54 PM
Thankfully you don't work for Konami.
Title: Re: Konami considering new Castlevania game on Switch. Harmony of Despair 2 ?
Post by: Castle34hk on March 10, 2018, 12:44:51 AM
This suprise me a CV game for switch? YES of course but most be a good one.
Title: Re: Konami considering new Castlevania game on Switch. Harmony of Despair 2 ?
Post by: Foffy on March 10, 2018, 03:15:21 AM
Isn't the article referenced involving a quote from nearly a year ago?

This isn't news that they're entertaining a new game to capitalize on the show. What's news is even thinking Harmony of Despair is a route they want to follow instead of an IGAvania or Classicvania game.
Title: Re: Konami considering new Castlevania game on Switch. Harmony of Despair 2 ?
Post by: Nagumo on March 10, 2018, 04:19:15 AM
Harmony of Despair 2 would be the perfect book-end to the last 8 years of terrible decisions regarding this franchise.
Title: Re: Konami considering new Castlevania game on Switch. Harmony of Despair 2 ?
Post by: zangetsu468 on March 10, 2018, 04:39:22 AM
Well at least they're inferring learning from the mistakes of the past.
Title: Re: Konami considering new Castlevania game on Switch. Harmony of Despair 2 ?
Post by: Dracula9 on March 10, 2018, 06:02:52 AM
i'm missing something here

HD was liked?

news to me
Title: Re: Konami considering new Castlevania game on Switch. Harmony of Despair 2 ?
Post by: BLOOD MONKEY on March 10, 2018, 07:21:40 AM
i'm missing something here

HD was liked?

news to me

kekeke

yeah i hope it's a single player title. won't buy if it contains any microtransactions.
Title: Re: Konami considering new Castlevania game on Switch. Harmony of Despair 2 ?
Post by: X on March 10, 2018, 10:24:18 AM
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yeah i hope it's a single player title. won't buy if it contains any microtransactions.

They'd seriously consider implementing micro-transactions if it means more money in their pockets. This is Konami we're talking about after all.
Title: Re: Konami considering new Castlevania game on Switch. Harmony of Despair 2 ?
Post by: Foffy on March 10, 2018, 10:39:25 AM
They'd seriously consider implementing micro-transactions if it means more money in their pockets. This is Konami we're talking about after all.

Make a Classicvania, but make lives a stamina system from gacha games, but you can get around it via microtransactions.

This sounds like such a terrible idea, but this Konami; they charge money for save slots now.
Title: Re: Konami considering new Castlevania game on Switch. Harmony of Despair 2 ?
Post by: affinity on March 11, 2018, 06:03:16 PM
haters keep hating.   Harmony of Despair is still the longest played Castlevania game ever, the most fun and replayable, also one of the greatest co-op games and fans played it on x360 and PS3.  and PS3 still has some people playing it with friends online.   ;D

so there.     Harmony of Despair is the perfect direction for the series, combining classic stage based timed Castlevania gaming, with nonlinear Rondo/IGAvania level designs, the greatest selection of playable characters, and epic 6 players co-op (and the netcode actually is one of the greatest in gaming history, especially when even some AAA games struggle to maintain 4 players co-op without lag. well yea HD is not flawless online, but over the years playing it, it's one of the most stable online experiences, even with 6 players. )
Title: Re: Konami considering new Castlevania game on Switch. Harmony of Despair 2 ?
Post by: zangetsu468 on March 11, 2018, 09:57:38 PM
haters keep hating.   Harmony of Despair is still the longest played Castlevania game ever, the most fun and replayable, also one of the greatest co-op games and fans played it on x360 and PS3.  and PS3 still has some people playing it with friends online.   ;D

so there.     Harmony of Despair is the perfect direction for the series, combining classic stage based timed Castlevania gaming, with nonlinear Rondo/IGAvania level designs, the greatest selection of playable characters, and epic 6 players co-op (and the netcode actually is one of the greatest in gaming history, especially when even some AAA games struggle to maintain 4 players co-op without lag. well yea HD is not flawless online, but over the years playing it, it's one of the most stable online experiences, even with 6 players. )

Longest played by whose quantification of time? People are still playing the original Castlevania, speedruns and lets plays are a thing, so is retro gaming. Longest played also =/= most successful. LOS is the most commercially successful CV game, which in the long run didn't necessarily benefit the series or itself overall.

I don't believe people are "hating", they're just not necessarily looking for what's already been done. Despair's redeeming factor is that it potentially peaks consumers' interest in other games throughout the series. However, there hasn't been a new classicvania or Igavania out in a very long time and this also isn't the generation where anyone but retrogamers wants to hunt down several past gen consoles and spend copious amounts of money to play old games. The age of technology is the age of ease, consumers demand mobility and accessibility, not because they're demanding, but because this is commonly offered with mobile technology.

The smart thing to do and test the waters is to offer a CV collection as one whole game for the switch. That way the portability aspect is covered, and covers consumers not having to buy games online across several consoles. If they include an updated version of Despair, then great. But I don't feel it will be purely centred around Despair, because it's not what made Castlevania what it is, nor is it the core of the original franchise.
Title: Re: Konami considering new Castlevania game on Switch. Harmony of Despair 2 ?
Post by: Reinhart77 on March 11, 2018, 10:31:48 PM
Bloodstained Ritual of the Night is taking so long to get released, that I half wonder if we'll see a new Castlevania game before it actually gets released.  Not that I'm complaining, I'm patient, really.
Title: Re: Konami considering new Castlevania game on Switch. Harmony of Despair 2 ?
Post by: Dracula9 on March 12, 2018, 04:13:41 AM
[everything affinity said]

found the fanboy with blinders on

has nothing to do with hating

has to do with i think the following setup is fucking garbage and not what i look for in a cv title (note: image is--hopefully obviously--satirical and not meant to be taken entirely seriously)

(https://imgur.com/xje5ROr.png)

you like it? good for you, i'm happy you find enjoyment in something i myself consider to be worthless garbage that completely misses the mark of the series as a whole

but don't sit there and pull the "lol h8rs r my motiv8tors" idiocy, because you clearly are missing the point of what HD was aiming to do:

it's not "the perfect direction for the series" because it was never meant to follow the singleplayer adventures and narratives of its predecessors--it was meant to be a "sit back, have fun, don't think too hard about the logistics of it, invite your friends, enjoy tearing through the castle in a way that would clearly never happen in quite this manner in the "normal" branch of the series" kind of game, and that's exactly what it is

and--gasp--i don't happen to like what HD is or what it meant to accomplish, holy shiiiiiiiiiit batman!

you do? fantastic, i'm genuinely happy for you to find something you enjoy

i don't, and i'd appreciate you not jumping straight to the anti-hater argument bullshit just because i don't happen to like your favorite vidyagaem

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Title: Re: Konami considering new Castlevania game on Switch. Harmony of Despair 2 ?
Post by: zangetsu468 on March 12, 2018, 04:42:32 AM
@Dracula9 I agree with your comments on how Despair is supposed to be taken ie not as CV's sliced bread, but as a "fuckit lets have some fun" game.

Also I lol'd at the image, especially the boss stuck inside the wall cavity #lolgic
Title: Re: Konami considering new Castlevania game on Switch. Harmony of Despair 2 ?
Post by: Super Waffle on March 12, 2018, 10:06:35 AM
I like how Dracula can seduce chicks in HoD
Title: Re: Konami considering new Castlevania game on Switch. Harmony of Despair 2 ?
Post by: AlexCalvo on March 12, 2018, 10:16:24 AM
HoD should have just been an online mode for a new Metroidvania.  There's nothing really inherently wrong with it, it does what it sets out to do well, it just feels so small.  Much more like one piece of a whole than a complete product.
Title: Re: Konami considering new Castlevania game on Switch. Harmony of Despair 2 ?
Post by: GuyStarwind on March 15, 2018, 11:42:32 PM
Yeah, I enjoyed HoDe, but the series needs a standalone game. Simply a Belmont in a giant castle.
Title: Re: Konami considering new Castlevania game on Switch. Harmony of Despair 2 ?
Post by: X on March 16, 2018, 09:43:39 AM
^^^
Dido.
Title: Re: Konami considering new Castlevania game on Switch. Harmony of Despair 2 ?
Post by: Dracula9 on March 16, 2018, 11:25:53 AM
Yeah, I enjoyed HoDe, but the series needs a standalone game. Simply a Belmont in a giant castle.

what about a giant castle in a belmont?

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Title: Re: Konami considering new Castlevania game on Switch. Harmony of Despair 2 ?
Post by: Briraka on March 16, 2018, 05:30:06 PM
what about a giant castle in a belmont?

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a belmont is the castle.

... hey, a better plot twist than a belmont is dracula.
Title: Re: Konami considering new Castlevania game on Switch. Harmony of Despair 2 ?
Post by: BLOOD MONKEY on March 17, 2018, 10:00:09 AM
No frills, no serious story, no plotline. Belmont in a big castle. Beat Dracula. CV was never truly about the story anyways, I'm pretty sure it was just in SotN for selling potential and an excuse to tell you how to do things and fight Richter and reuse assets.
Title: Re: Konami considering new Castlevania game on Switch. Harmony of Despair 2 ?
Post by: Aiddon on March 17, 2018, 11:17:36 AM
Not getting my hopes up considering this was from an article from nearly a year ago. I can see Konami doing something with it to capitalize on the surprise success of the Netflix show but it'll probably just be a lazy cash grab.
Title: Re: Konami considering new Castlevania game on Switch. Harmony of Despair 2 ?
Post by: gallandryal on March 22, 2018, 07:32:42 PM
I'd like a new game that is a sequel to aria of sorrow, maybe in the far future when Soma is old with  new protagonist

or telling Julius battle in 1999 .

a belmont is the castle.

... hey, a better plot twist than a belmont is dracula.

A Belmont is a castle? how would that work exactly? lol I wanna play it  8)

Title: Re: Konami considering new Castlevania game on Switch. Harmony of Despair 2 ?
Post by: GuyStarwind on March 23, 2018, 01:34:21 PM
No frills, no serious story, no plotline. Belmont in a big castle. Beat Dracula. CV was never truly about the story anyways, I'm pretty sure it was just in SotN for selling potential and an excuse to tell you how to do things and fight Richter and reuse assets.

I would be all for this. I like the basic story of a vampire hunting family, but as you've said nothing too serious.

what about a giant castle in a belmont?

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*mind explosion*
Title: Re: Konami considering new Castlevania game on Switch. Harmony of Despair 2 ?
Post by: Briraka on March 23, 2018, 05:00:42 PM
A Belmont is a castle? how would that work exactly? lol I wanna play it  8)

You play as Simon Belmont in an artsy-fartsy strutting/stair-climbing simulator using diplomacy to pacify all the monsters in the castle. When Simon finally convinces Dracula of the errors of his ways, the entire game zooms out to reveal that the castle's rooms are in the shape of Simon's sprite.
Title: Re: Konami considering new Castlevania game on Switch. Harmony of Despair 2 ?
Post by: AlexCalvo on March 23, 2018, 07:31:02 PM
I would love a minimalist remake of Castlevania 1, barebones story telling, dripping with atmosphere in the vein of something between Demon's Souls and Journey and the aesthetic of the classic games that was never fully realized, reminiscent of Boris Vallejo and Frank Frezetta.  Simon should be alone the whole game.
Title: Re: Konami considering new Castlevania game on Switch. Harmony of Despair 2 ?
Post by: Dracula9 on March 24, 2018, 03:59:42 AM
didn't we get that between 4 and chronicles/x68?

4 nailed the right atmosphere but fucked up the gameplay with making the whip actual godmode and chronicles/x68 was less on creep atmosphere but had tight gameplay
Title: Re: Konami considering new Castlevania game on Switch. Harmony of Despair 2 ?
Post by: Nagumo on March 24, 2018, 05:15:25 AM
X68 is slightly less atmospheric but it's still wonderfully gothic nonetheless. Combine that with better level design and overall attention to detail, I'd say it's the most well-rounded of the two. On the other hand, SCIV's atmosphere and music are so great that it's worth playing the game for those two things alone.
Title: Re: Konami considering new Castlevania game on Switch. Harmony of Despair 2 ?
Post by: AlexCalvo on March 24, 2018, 08:12:18 AM
Well I meant a modern 3d game.  Should have mentioned that.  But something very minimalist.  Like the games I mentioned.
Title: Re: Konami considering new Castlevania game on Switch. Harmony of Despair 2 ?
Post by: Belmont Stakes on March 31, 2018, 07:36:18 AM
Sad I am not 20 years younger and have money to put into this hobby. I would have to buy a Switch then buy the game and there is no guarantee that it will be a boost for the series going forward. HOD2 would be fine if they included CV 2 and 3 levels maybe some Bloodlines have adult Maria maybe Hector yes Hector. I would like to not see the whole map and just spring the boss on the player. Don't pull a Mario Maker where map reveals are necessary. Also some of the maps should be classic platformers and work some of the jump mechanics so some characters can double and steer jump and others are fixed single jump. Satisfy both old school and new school gamers Konami. Stop playing with your Wii and start playing Switch after you stop playing switch.
Title: Re: Konami considering new Castlevania game on Switch. Harmony of Despair 2 ?
Post by: Aridale on March 31, 2018, 02:54:18 PM
what about a giant castle in a belmont?

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Anatomy Park: Castlevania?
Title: Re: Konami considering new Castlevania game on Switch. Harmony of Despair 2 ?
Post by: Gaawa-chan on May 01, 2018, 01:09:23 AM
I enjoyed HoD and I wouldn't mind seeing it updated/ported onto the newer systems, but that aside...

I fully expect Konami to flub every video game they produce at this point.
Title: Re: Konami considering new Castlevania game on Switch. Harmony of Despair 2 ?
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on May 01, 2018, 09:21:42 PM
Dracula is not on the Bus, he IS the Bus.
The BUS... of the undead.
Title: Re: Konami considering new Castlevania game on Switch. Harmony of Despair 2 ?
Post by: zangetsu468 on May 02, 2018, 07:17:34 AM
Dracula is not on the Bus, he IS the Bus.
The BUS... of the undead.

#ghoulbus
Title: Re: Konami considering new Castlevania game on Switch. Harmony of Despair 2 ?
Post by: gallandryal on May 11, 2018, 03:39:57 PM
If they want to make a "sequel", telling the 1999 fight would be the best route.  A game in the future of Aria of sorrow would work as well. In the last scenario, not sure if Dracula would be the villain as he was finally defeated but probably an iconic vampire like they did with Barthory.

I wouldn't be mad if characters like Sonia, Nathan Carrie were added in canon using their concept but maybe in the modern times to make sense in the timeline, or something like that.