The future of Castlevania looks grim with the way Konami is currently, I mostly have hope for the genre through fangames,hacks, and IGA's Bloodstained at this point.
But if Konami ever got their shit together than I'm definitely still into playing a Demon Castle Wards 1999 CV game.
I could almost imagine getting a phone call from their PR at some point in time...
I'm gonna come out and say it.
I am and always have been a classic Castlevania fan first.
But I didn't care for Castlevania Rebirth at all.
It's lacking the level design power of other classic CV's. The levels are too long and boring. The controls feel almost too tight (I know that sounds weird). And the music is just lacking depth IMO. Even something about the graphics bothers me.
Something about the presentation of that game seems like they didn't take it seriously. Almost like it's an intentionally nostalgic throwback to classic CV. It just rubs me the wrong way.
It should be one of my favorite CV's. But for me it falls short in just about every aspect.
It's lacking the level design power of other classic CV's. The levels are too long and boring. The controls feel almost too tight (I know that sounds weird). And the music is just lacking depth IMO. Even something about the graphics bothers me.
Something about the presentation of that game seems like they didn't take it seriously. Almost like it's an intentionally nostalgic throwback to classic CV. It just rubs me the wrong way.
It should be one of my favorite CV's. But for me it falls short in just about every aspect.
Speaking of Legacy Collection, I still do want it, but $30 for MM1-6?? Anniversary collection came out for PS2, Xbox and I believe GC... Has MM1-8, plus Power Battles (aka, most addictive fighting game of all time!!!). Wish they just rereleased that for PS4 and XB1, maybe included the X collection's compilation in there, but they're full of greed. Imagine all those MM games, plus all the X games for $30-40??? It'd be incredible
They simply should've stuck every single pre-mega man X game ever made onto one PS4 disk. Now THAT would have been an awesome mega man collection!
Yeah, I'm kinda feeling down about that too... On the bright side at least we've got several fan games on the way to help with that state of depression. But I would definitely prefer to see the CV IP sold off to a more caring group of developers.
I'd say Castlevania's future probably lies with other games. The closest resembling Castlevania would be Bloodstained as Iga is making it. Castlevania same as Megaman has a future in transitioning its elements into other titles. When a game franchise dies, the memory the franchise does not die. Some franchises need to die. Its just their time. If I could make a game, I could say Castlevania would be one influence that I would be keeping in mind. Other games such as Chrono Trigger have been major influences of mine which can not be forgotten.
Hard to do that when you treat your staff like fucking barn animals.
CV isn't a money maker anymore I guess, but they're missing the point: they aren't releasing what ppl want from a CV game. Theres demand for it (Iga has proven), and they don't know what their customers want.
Thing is CV has always had one thing which is a money maker.. Dracula. The guy was internationally famous before the internet. Possibly one of the most well known mythological figures in history.So, would you be for or against brining in another major historical or mythological figure as the hero for a game? For example, Billy the Kid, King Arthur, Sherlock Holmes, Abe Lincoln, Mr. Hyde, Thor, Cinderella, or Blackbeard.
So, would you be for or against brining in another major historical or mythological figure as the hero for a game? For example, Billy the Kid, King Arthur, Sherlock Holmes, Abe Lincoln, Mr. Hyde, Thor, Cinderella, or Blackbeard.Mate we're talking about Castlevania here. None of the above apply to the context of a protagonist in this series.
I could see Mr. Hyde popping up in Castlevania.
I could see Mr. Hyde popping up in Castlevania.
The people currently in charge of Konami won't be there forever.
I have been in contact with Ayami Kojima. She contacted Konami directly in regards to Lecarde Chronicles 2. They said that they will not interfere with the games release provided that it stays non-profit.
That's more than I can say for how Nintendo treats their die hard fans that make fan games.
I wish people would cool it a little with all the Konami hate.
So I'm sure you guys have heard about Metal Gear Survive by now. So we can all sit back and put that "konami is done with console gaming" rumor to rest. That said, maybe the future of Castlevania is not so grim as we thought? At the very least that it likely still has a future? The reaction to Metal Gear Survive has been... lukewarm to say the least, but I have hope that as long as Konami does not give up on console gaming, there is still a chance. The people currently in charge of Konami won't be there forever.You mean Resident Evil Solid, don't ya? ;D
I think a new 2D CV makes sense.
A game in the $30.00 price range that brings the series back to its glory days.
No remakes or reboots. Just a good new 2d CV.
CV needs its identity back. Anything else at this point would be a mistake in my opinion.
They've taken the series way of course and are hemorrhaging fans.
Also, in regards to this whole thread, and honestly a lot of this board, I really wish people would stop requesting MORE plot in their Castlevania games. Nobody plays Castlevania for the story.
It's like people who insisted on giving the Zelda games a time line.
I think a new 2D CV makes sense.
A game in the $30.00 price range that brings the series back to its glory days.
No remakes or reboots. Just a good new 2d CV.
CV needs its identity back. Anything else at this point would be a mistake in my opinion.
They've taken the series way off course and are hemorrhaging fans.
This "the series needs to be like this and like that and nobody plays Castlevania for this and that" mentality sure is a drag to read. As if it weren't more obvious, I like my video games plot heavy, and this includes Castlevania. But I don't go around telling people what Castlevania should be and how bothersome it is for people to think differently from my tastes.I'm very sorry if I offended you, but you're reading it wrong if you see my post as an attack on people focusing on the story of the game. You are obviously allowed to play Castlevania for the plot, but subjective opinions aside, I still think it's very safe to say that none of the CV games have a particularly interesting or well crafted story - a majority of them don't even have any plot development at ALL that's not in the manual. If it weren't for everything else making the games great, I don't believe anyone would have cared about the story in the first place.
I understand people liking their Castlevania simpler, but I don't understand they wanting to take from me what made me a fan of the series to begin with. It's not like my "more plot" tastes are detracting from your "more gameplay" enjoyment.I'm not saying the games shouldn't have a good story. In fact I would love to have more of a story, I just don't want to see it expand much further than the borders of the game in which it exists, and I don't want it to subtract from the flow of the game experience. Most CV games already do it like that.
Why can't we have both? Blood for the blood god, skulls for the skull throne :)
I'm very sorry if I offended you
You are obviously allowed to play Castlevania for the plot, but subjective opinions aside, I still think it's very safe to say that none of the CV games have a particularly interesting or well crafted story - a majority of them don't even have any plot development at ALL that's not in the manual.
Are you seriously going to tell me that the story is the main reason why you play any Castlevania game? And do you seriously think making the story more and more convoluted and depending on other iterations of the series, is the way to bring back Castlevania and make the series strong again?
To me that sounds more like the wet dream of a fandom, than a realistic way to reinvigorate a game series.
I'm not saying the games shouldn't have a good story. In fact I would love to have more of a story, I just don't want to see it expand much further than the borders of the game in which it exists, and I don't want it to subtract from the flow of the game experience. Most CV games already do it like that.
What I'm saying is that trying to build further on the existing canon, and trying to take it to new places is only going to make the story more and more convoluted and cringeworthy. There's only so much you can do with what we have at this point.
The overarching plot of the series, to me, doesn't feel convoluted at all.It gets convoluted when you reach a point where Dracula has been resurrected 30+ times within a time span of around 500+ years, and you feel a need to lampshade it every single time. The games don't really have a problem with it, but when a Sonic-like fandom arises and people try to make sense and headcanon out of everything, I feel like they are missing the point, and are unwilling to accept that everything doesn't have to be canon. This is also why Bloodstained could end up being a perfectly fine "Castlevania sequel" provided they don't pull a Mighty no. 9.
@theplottwist
You keep making it sound like I'm not interested in a good plot in a Castlevania game, which is never what I said.
It's really a silly thing to quarrel over, isn't it?
Everyone has different things that drew them into CV. For me it was more the atmosphere and the music. And oh yeah my lifelong obsession with Dracula!
The cool thing is that here were all are under the same umbrella 30 years later still obsessed with this amazing series.
We're all under the same umbrella, stuck in the rain, hoping for Konami to make CV shine again. Let's all hope for the best!
If Konami doesn't do it, no worries becuase we can and are doing it ourselves, eh Plot?
I do think I'd cut down on some of the Belmont's as I feel that it gets less special if its everyone of em, it should be only a select few.
Then it would kinda defeat the importance of them in the first place since they are the only ones out of all humanity that can successfully slay Dracula. I don't mind other people outside of the family that are also hunters, but unless they are helping out said Belmont they won't be able to kill the count. But there could also be CV Gaidens they could star in that don't feature either Dracula or the Belmonts. This would give other heroes a chance to shine in the CV universe.
Then it would kinda defeat the importance of them in the first place since they are the only ones out of all humanity that can successfully slay Dracula.Actually that could make for some interesting story potential.
Then it would kinda defeat the importance of them in the first place since they are the only ones out of all humanity that can successfully slay Dracula. I don't mind other people outside of the family that are also hunters, but unless they are helping out said Belmont they won't be able to kill the count. But there could also be CV Gaidens they could star in that don't feature either Dracula or the Belmonts. This would give other heroes a chance to shine in the CV universe.
If we're talking a 3D reboot, I would like it to start at the beginning.
Honestly I would like a reboot series with Sonia Belmont as the star that also gives Dracula a new backstory starting with him as a human antagonist.
I change my mind of this stuff all the time. But I just love her as a protagonist and I would love to see her character given more attention.
Well you sort missed my point there.
Wow!
It's so incredibly coincidental that you would bring up Frankenstein right now.
Plot twist knows what I'm talking about...
Not only that, but the similarity gets scary even on specific details.Heheh, I don't know what you guys have cooking, but I can promise I'm no spy, or mind reader for that matter. :P
Heheh, I don't know what you guys have cooking, but I can promise I'm no spy, or mind reader for that matter. :P
I'm just a CV fan who is also a big time classic monster fan, and given that Frankenstein is often considered Dracula's equal as a horror icon, the other half of "the big two", I thought I'd pitch an idea for a CV game that utilized Frankenstein a bit more thoroughly than as a throwaway boss or something. The rest just kind of came to me naturally when I tried to think of how to expand on that foundation.
Hey James, those are some interesting ideas that you have for a Frankenstein inspired Castlevania game! Would be very easy to adapt into just an original, stand alone property as well as you mentioned, which might actually be better for such an idea so it can really grow. The modular body parts affecting how you progress is a really good one.There's certainly a wealth of mad science literature out there to draw from. A sequel set on the Island of Doctor Moreau could be fun (Perhaps such a game could introduce a werewolf supporting character who eventually becomes playable, someone who hopes Moreau can surgically remove the wolf inside him? Actually it could be more fun to draw from the film version Island of Lost Souls and feature a Panther Woman instead) and using Herbert West as a villain for another sequel opens the door to Lovecraftian elements, the Necronomicon, etc. If it was an original IP it could go in a variety of interesting directions, for sure.
While on the subject of Castlevania-esque Frankenstein games - have you seen Frankenstein: The Monster Returns on the NES? It has the Monster as the main bad guy, complete with his power coming from an evil dimension and Dracula (or at least a Vampire with a very similar attack pattern to the Castlevania Count) under his thrall. There's also the Dr Franken series where you control the Monster as he explores a vast castle in a Metroidvania fashion - though it's not exactly a very good series. Sorry if I sound like a commercial for Frankenstein games, I just like the idea of Frankenstein/Castlevania as well.I've heard of the former game, still need to try that one out. I recall playing at least one of the Dr. Franken games as a kid though. I recall it was very frustrating.