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Re: Batman Vs. Superman Official
« Reply #45 on: December 11, 2015, 05:54:13 PM »
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Re: Batman Vs. Superman Official
« Reply #46 on: March 26, 2016, 01:38:49 PM »
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Who saw the movie?

I thought it was great!

I was surprised how well the director threw in so much material in an already stuffed movie and made it fit.

Oh yeah, Batfflick's Bat is probably the best version of Batman I've seen on film.

I also liked the fact that Superman had a little more edge this time, but they made sure to give him some Christopher Reeve's flair this time around.

WW definitely brought it.

Lex Jr. was awesome as well.

Definitely a day 1 purchase on DVD/Blu-Ray.

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Re: Batman Vs. Superman Official
« Reply #47 on: March 27, 2016, 02:53:10 AM »
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Who saw the movie?

I thought it was great!

I was surprised how well the director threw in so much material in an already stuffed movie and made it fit.

Oh yeah, Batfflick's Bat is probably the best version of Batman I've seen on film.

I also liked the fact that Superman had a little more edge this time, but they made sure to give him some Christopher Reeve's flair this time around.

WW definitely brought it.

Lex Jr. was awesome as well.

Definitely a day 1 purchase on DVD/Blu-Ray.

With out spoilers or anything it was good I knew the critics were wrong but dang it's like this time they were hitting there faces with a rusty iron nail attached to a plank of wood.

I'm tired now for positives and negatives but I'll at least say this, if you're on the fence about seeing this don't be, make your own judgement and see it. I don't think you'll be disappointed but at the same time don't have super high expectations and think it's going to be the end all be all of superhero movies, heck, at times I find it to be beneficial to not listen to "professional" reviews and not be manipulated or dissuaded into watching a movie that I from what I watched, has a lot of ideas and love put into it. 
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Re: Batman Vs. Superman Official
« Reply #48 on: March 27, 2016, 03:19:17 AM »
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Despite being in over half the film, I really feel like Superman is just a macguffin in the film. No two bones about it, this is ENTIRELY Batman's show.

Fortunately, Batman is FINALLY awesome enough to carry a whole film himself whereas the Nolan films were carried mostly by their villains. Batman is finally free to make his own arguments rather than form a rebuttal to someone else's.

Unfortunately, despite this being the most true-to-the-source take on Batman yet, I really can't say this is a great film. It's dark, plodding, and depressing, with very little hope to even out the bleakness, which, while a great commentary on our modern society, does not a compelling film make. They say that the night is darkest just before the dawn, but this movie is pretty fucking dark so the resulting dawn is going to have to be pretty amazing if DC wants to sell me on their ensemble Justice League film.

After the morose grimdark of this film and the far-more serious-than-usual upcoming Captain America: Civil War, Suicide Squad is going to be a welcome slice of mood whiplash.

If you have kids, don't take them.
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Re: Batman Vs. Superman Official
« Reply #49 on: March 28, 2016, 12:27:11 AM »
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Interesting reviews...
I'll just wait for it to come out on TV.  Movie tickets are too damn pricey nowadays.  >:(

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Re: Batman Vs. Superman Official
« Reply #50 on: March 28, 2016, 11:25:05 AM »
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Oh hey there's going to be an R-rated 3 hour unabridged Director's Cut released on Blu Ray guys.
So look forward to that.
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Re: Batman Vs. Superman Official
« Reply #51 on: March 28, 2016, 01:13:27 PM »
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Despite being in over half the film, I really feel like Superman is just a macguffin in the film. No two bones about it, this is ENTIRELY Batman's show.

Fortunately, Batman is FINALLY awesome enough to carry a whole film himself whereas the Nolan films were carried mostly by their villains. Batman is finally free to make his own arguments rather than form a rebuttal to someone else's.

Unfortunately, despite this being the most true-to-the-source take on Batman yet, I really can't say this is a great film. It's dark, plodding, and depressing, with very little hope to even out the bleakness, which, while a great commentary on our modern society, does not a compelling film make. They say that the night is darkest just before the dawn, but this movie is pretty fucking dark so the resulting dawn is going to have to be pretty amazing if DC wants to sell me on their ensemble Justice League film.

After the morose grimdark of this film and the far-more serious-than-usual upcoming Captain America: Civil War, Suicide Squad is going to be a welcome slice of mood whiplash.

If you have kids, don't take them.

I for one like the tone of the film. I hate to say "dark" while it does have dark moments, but just look at the origins of fairytales and they are told to kids all the time. I think the movie was intelligently written for an adult audience not specifically for kids. I like having the yang to the yin of the campy MCU. Not to say Marvel can't write a mature, intelligently written movie (I LOVE The Winter Solider), but if you look at other movies like (Age of Ultron) some of the dialogue can be somewhat cringe worthy. But they are fun movies none the less and that can (and are) geared more for families and kids.

By the way, Lego Batman looks AWESOME.

Interesting reviews...
I'll just wait for it to come out on TV.  Movie tickets are too damn pricey nowadays.  >:(

This is true. You should start looking at matinee hours. I went to an 11am showing on a Saturday for six bucks. (And it was packed.lol)

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Re: Batman Vs. Superman Official
« Reply #52 on: March 28, 2016, 01:41:27 PM »
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Well, only you can really know what you like, Darkman, but it was simply too moody for me.
It felt like "Watchmen featuring the Justice League".

And I liked Watchmen (especially the Director's cut). I think the Director's cut of Watchmen is probably the best comic to film adaptation out there. But it was bleak because the source was bleak.

Few I know would call Superman or Wonder Woman  "bleak". They are serious, obviously, and have plenty of dark moments. But Superman is meant to be an ideal of hope, a symbol of inspiration to all.

And so far, the DC cinematic universe hasn't done a good job of portraying this. This Superman has not been inspiring. He's been moody, angry, and fearful in a way Superman shouldn't be. This has been done to make him relatable but Superman is an Icon, not a man. He's not meant to be relatable. Trying to make him something he's not meant to be greatly cheapens him. Batman is meant to be relatable. He is a man who faces realistic traumas and reacts by overcoming all challenges by cunning, planning, drive, and hard work. Wonder Woman too is meant to be relatable in her own way -- but NOT Superman.

Glad you enjoyed it though.
I can appreciate it, but I can't say as I "like" it.
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Re: Batman Vs. Superman Official
« Reply #53 on: March 28, 2016, 06:56:00 PM »
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Well, only you can really know what you like, Darkman, but it was simply too moody for me.
It felt like "Watchmen featuring the Justice League".

And I liked Watchmen (especially the Director's cut). I think the Director's cut of Watchmen is probably the best comic to film adaptation out there. But it was bleak because the source was bleak.

Few I know would call Superman or Wonder Woman  "bleak". They are serious, obviously, and have plenty of dark moments. But Superman is meant to be an ideal of hope, a symbol of inspiration to all.

And so far, the DC cinematic universe hasn't done a good job of portraying this. This Superman has not been inspiring. He's been moody, angry, and fearful in a way Superman shouldn't be. This has been done to make him relatable but Superman is an Icon, not a man. He's not meant to be relatable. Trying to make him something he's not meant to be greatly cheapens him. Batman is meant to be relatable. He is a man who faces realistic traumas and reacts by overcoming all challenges by cunning, planning, drive, and hard work. Wonder Woman too is meant to be relatable in her own way -- but NOT Superman.

Glad you enjoyed it though.
I can appreciate it, but I can't say as I "like" it.

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Oh yeah, Christopher Reeve would not of been able to walk around in NY with a Superman shirt on unnoticed. Sorry Henry, you aren't that big yet.
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« Reply #54 on: April 01, 2016, 01:18:26 PM »
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Well... The Deadpool times aren't working out for our babysitter situation so the wife and I are sort of being forced to go see bvs.

I fucking love batman. But man, I have a bad feeling that it's not worth the money of a night out. This movie feels more like a redbox to me.

I hope the reviews and my gut are wrong!

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« Reply #55 on: April 01, 2016, 01:34:17 PM »
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Well... The Deadpool times aren't working out for our babysitter situation so the wife and I are sort of being forced to go see bvs.

I fucking love batman. But man, I have a bad feeling that it's not worth the money of a night out. This movie feels more like a redbox to me.

I hope the reviews and my gut are wrong!

If nothing else, Ben Affleck utterly SELLS the classic Frank Miller Dark Knight Returns version of Batman, and Jeremy Irons is the best Alfred yet.
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« Reply #56 on: April 01, 2016, 01:49:25 PM »
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They shoulda had Chloe grace moretz as robin.

Why tons of characters yet no robin?
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« Reply #57 on: April 01, 2016, 05:58:42 PM »
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They shoulda had Chloe grace moretz as robin.

Why tons of characters yet no robin?
Joke's on you HAHAHAHAHAHA!
(It'll be cool if the Suicide Squad Joker was Robin, but I doubt the Live action DC guys are that clever)

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« Reply #58 on: April 01, 2016, 08:00:56 PM »
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They shoulda had Chloe grace moretz as robin.

Why tons of characters yet no robin?

Clearly Carrie Kelly and Stephanie Brown have yet to be recruited as Robin.

But it looks like Jason Todd has bitten it at Joker's hands if that spraypainted suit Batman keeps on display wasn't one of his own.
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« Reply #59 on: April 01, 2016, 08:45:57 PM »
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Well just got back from the theater.

I give it a 6.5/10

People are being way too overly critical of it. It was good, not great.

But some people are acting like it was horrible. It was in no way deserving of a 29% critic score on rotten tomatoes. It should be in the 50-60% range at least.

The music was awesome!

It was better than the last super hero movie I saw, which was Ant Man.



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