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Title: Batman? DEAD!?
Post by: Battler Ushiromiya on November 28, 2008, 02:01:24 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,458725,00.html

...I... am at a loss for words.

DC COMICS WILL NEVER BE THE SAME!
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Post by: Profbeanburrito on November 28, 2008, 03:35:32 PM
This sucks! Bruce Wayne is awesome. When Marvel killed Steve Rogers it worked somehow. It sucked but it worked. Killing Bruce Wayne just isn't as interesting and feels more upsetting. This could be interesting though, I'll have to look further into it
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Post by: Super Waffle on November 28, 2008, 03:57:03 PM
Been there done that (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiZuvJ48MZ0)
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Post by: Battler Ushiromiya on November 28, 2008, 04:01:44 PM
Except this time, it's official.

I bet it'll get retconned, though. Jason Todd, anyone?
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Post by: Kale on November 28, 2008, 10:27:46 PM
Wow.... this is retarded beyond belief. Screw DC Comics. Another character can't take over for Bruce Wayne. They tried that with Batman beyond, and look at how much that batman sucked in comparison (I actually found the series semi decent for a batman show though.)

EDIT: Wow... I just read some of it by *ahem* means easy enough to guess, and it was stupid. Dear god, it was stupid.
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Post by: A-Yty on November 28, 2008, 11:55:22 PM
The first time I actually hope they're doing the usual fake shit.

Getting rid of Wayne sounds impossible. Though he has heirs, he is irreplaceable as Batman. It's like trying to replace Superman or Darkseid.

I'm guessing he either faked it or that someone will get a replacement Bruce from another universe.

Oh wait, didn't they get wiped out in Countdown? Nevermind..
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Post by: A-Yty on November 29, 2008, 12:00:19 AM
In Reply To #5

It was decent. But that's partly because it had Wayne involved.
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Post by: Kale on November 29, 2008, 12:01:39 AM
Well, I read... after reading some of Rip, that he isn't dead. As part of an interview, of course, it could be fake, since I rarely look up this stuff, I don't knwo which site is reliable or not.

I also read, that the writer of RIP is the writer of Final Crisis or something. And that batman did/will show up in that, and its suppose to happen after.
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Post by: A-Yty on November 29, 2008, 03:02:06 AM
My guess is Hush was behind the whole thing. His fate was left ambiguous in "Hush". "Hush Returns" didn't seem canon, but even in that his death was far from certain.

Hush knows Wayne is Batman. I'm not saying Hurt couldn't be Thomas Wayne, but that twist would be really, really shitty. So 24 or Star Wars.

They may retire Wayne temporarily, but he won't be put aside permanently. And they certainly wouldn't be stupid enough to kill him.

Just out of curiosity, how have Batman's sales been doing lately? I understand the primary reason behind the "death" of Superman was the low sales figures.
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Post by: Kale on November 29, 2008, 07:40:15 AM
Batman has got to be the most popular figure in DC, I doubt that he went down hill.
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Post by: Bizarro Belmont on November 29, 2008, 07:58:28 AM
DC's big trend as of late has been killing off superheroes left and right. While none of them up to this one have been as staggering as Steve Rogers, this is REALLY rearing the trend. Case in point, they dust off an old Teen Titan from the mothballs and kill em' like, every other issue it seems.

Still, Bruce Wayne is dead. Holy shit. Wose yet, if Tim Drake takes the mantle (Most likely), then it'll further link that Titans of Tomorrow storyline. Which would be ridiculous.
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Post by: Battler Ushiromiya on November 29, 2008, 08:06:24 AM
What really annoyed me about this is that it kinda knocks Batman Beyond from Canon, and I really liked that series.
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Post by: A-Yty on November 29, 2008, 09:07:20 AM
In Reply To #12

I don't think it ever was part of the main continuity. I think it was part of the DC Animated Universe canon.
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Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on November 29, 2008, 11:44:54 AM
In Reply To #12

Love that Batman Beyond.  That whole Project Cadmus thing with MgGinnis was awesome.  Also the whole Justice League linking, etc.

Mmmm... good times, good times...

Also "Batman Beyond - Return of the Joker" movie.  AWESOME!
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Post by: Kale on November 29, 2008, 08:51:42 PM
Still, Bruce Wayne is dead. Holy shit. Wose yet, if Tim Drake takes the mantle (Most likely), then it'll further link that Titans of Tomorrow storyline. Which would be ridiculous.

According to the Tie ins, Tim Drake stays Robin. But Cassandra (The last batgirl iirc, part of the outsider which broke after Batman's "death") went out to gather people to recreate the Outsiders with people who are capable enough to be Batman, as a collective group.

But it leaves us off with Nightwing sounding like he'll stop her, and I hope she beats the living daylights out of him and throw him down into a pile of vile excess.

By the way, when I said Batman Beyond was semi decent, that means it was on par with Superman, the other tv show i liked quite a bit. But it just isn't batman.
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Post by: Battler Ushiromiya on November 29, 2008, 09:16:03 PM
Eh, I always preferred Terry McGuinness over Wayne, anyways. Better sense of humor. Especially the whole "Laught at Joker" thing from RotJ.
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Post by: crisis on November 29, 2008, 09:47:09 PM
Quote from: Jorge D. Fuentes
Also "Batman Beyond - Return of the Joker" movie.
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Post by: Danial on November 29, 2008, 11:35:04 PM
Morrison's run on Batman so far has been really good.  There's a lot of meta in his fiction though so it helps to be particularly observant when you read his stuff.  There's a lot more to the story than Batman dying.

As for Batman Beyond, the animated universe has nothing to do with the comic universe.
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Post by: A-Yty on November 30, 2008, 04:00:45 AM
Though I find this twist gimmicky, they could turn it around into something good. Instead of the endless flashbacks of Bruce remembering the moment his parents were murdered, he could now see the whole thing differently; it could be worse. His father could be a callous, drug addicted bastard who staged his murder in front of his young son, killed his wife and later tried to kill him. With the way things are, at least he has fond memories of his parents to drive him night after night to kick the shit out of criminals.

Batmen you say? Reminds me of the Reign of Supermen. And look how that turned out.

There is no way they would permanently put Wayne out of comission. The whole scenario just seems impossible. I'd think Bob Kane had some fly's shit sized paragraph written into some contract that prevents this.

Also, who would even be fit to fill Wayne's shoes? Tim is the detectice. Dick is the acrobat. Jason is the street fighter. But alone they are just that. Wayne was/is all three of those.
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Post by: Kale on November 30, 2008, 02:12:24 PM
Also, who would even be fit to fill Wayne's shoes? Tim is the detectice. Dick is the acrobat. Jason is the street fighter. But alone they are just that. Wayne was/is all three of those.

And infinitely more.
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Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on December 01, 2008, 06:31:07 AM
I hope you watched the uncut version, it's way more awesome and violent than the clean TV version!

Uncut DVD, sir.
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Post by: The Last Belmont on December 02, 2008, 06:43:59 PM
wow i thought you meant adam west at first, i nearly shit my pants when i read that for the first time.
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Post by: Bizarro Belmont on December 04, 2008, 10:03:15 AM
According to the Tie ins, Tim Drake stays Robin. But Cassandra (The last batgirl iirc, part of the outsider which broke after Batman's "death") went out to gather people to recreate the Outsiders with people who are capable enough to be Batman, as a collective group.

But it leaves us off with Nightwing sounding like he'll stop her, and I hope she beats the living daylights out of him and throw him down into a pile of vile excess.

By the way, when I said Batman Beyond was semi decent, that means it was on par with Superman, the other tv show i liked quite a bit. But it just isn't batman.

I only assumed the Tim Drake bit solely because the Teen Titans comics had this future storyline (Titans of Tomorrow) where Tim actually does become Batman. But instead of putting bad guys in Bat-cuffs he shoots them. And they call him Tim-Batman.
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Post by: Kale on December 04, 2008, 12:24:04 PM
I know what you're talking about, but I never read it. In any case, it doesn't seem to happen here. i also heard there was a part where Tim Drake actually beat Batman in a fight, and I'd really like to see that.
Title: Re: Batman? DEAD!?
Post by: Bizarro Belmont on December 06, 2008, 10:23:20 AM
Or better yet, when Jason Todd tried to steal the Batmobile's wheels.  ;D
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Post by: fallenangel86 on December 06, 2008, 07:29:25 PM
bruce won't be killed. pretty sure i read somewhere something about retirement. meantime, all evidence seems to point to dick taking the mantle.
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Post by: Kale on December 06, 2008, 07:37:49 PM
Dear god, I hope not, I hate that idiot.
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Post by: A-Yty on December 07, 2008, 12:47:09 PM
Dick's ok. He's pretty good as Nightwing. But a Batman he is not. He's the wet dream of DC women and a charismatic leader (kind of like Bruce Wayne the playboy philanthropist) but lacks th grim, calculating edge. Batman's a brooding loner, Dick's kind of a swashbuckler.

I think some official source "revealed" Wayne survived. I reckon he'll return, announce he doesn't want to be Batman anymore. Cue a year or so of being out of the streets