Topic: Super Castlevania IV's graphics overrated?

[Sumac]

SCV4 has one of the best and stylish graphics in the 2D series. It is undeniable fact.

And I speak about without the hint of Nostalgia, because I played this game only in 2004.

[knightmere]

The graphics are fine, I like the darker atmosphere it suits Castlevania very well.  The 64 games seemed to borrow from IV in this regard. My only knock against the game is it is too damn easy because Simon is overpowered with the 8-way whip.  Also the Dracula battle is one of the easiest in the series which is a disappointment considering the build up to the fight.  Don't get me wrong I still think it one of the best in the series, just not my personal favorite.

[Jorge D. Fuentes]

I think we have determined by the answers to this thread, the answer to the thread's question:

No, they're not overrated.

[BingleGod]

"Overrated" and "underrated" are terrible words.

[MKKhanzo]

No they arent. They still are beautifull to this day, even compared to the oneslike SotN and saving their respective plataform strenghts. The 3D tunnel part stills wows me and make me look at the now very old Snes and say: "really?"

[Ahasverus]

Castlevania Adventure had shit graphics! And hell, even its sequels. You would think after the first game they would have made an effort to at least ADD A LITTLE COLOR TO THE GAME!

They did
[TAS] GBC The Castlevania Adventure (Europe) by arukAdo in 14:58.7

[knightmere]

They did
[TAS] GBC The Castlevania Adventure (Europe) by arukAdo in 14:58.7

Yeah too bad they only released it in Europe as part of a Konami Collection

[ChibiMaddiChan]

Nothing about Super Castlevania IV is overrated, favoritism and nostalgia be damned. It was and will remain, one of the best classic Castlevania titles in the series.

[DragonSlayr81]

>implying Batman TAS is a shit taste

I will fight you, sir.

Batman TAS is and will always be my favorite adaptation of the comic. It's, IMO, perfect. No other animation/live action has actually come close to capturing the true comics as TAS(not even Nolan's movies, which are respectably their own thing). Probably one of the best cartoons around.

Though, I disagree with the notion that cartoons made to sell toys are bad. When you are a kid, you couldn't care less about that. Toys are fuckin FUN, ESPECIALLY if your a kid, and I know, when I was a kid, I wanted toys of cartoon characters. Hell, I loved the Batman TAS, Exo-Squad, Darkwing Duck, Gargoyles figures they had out in the 90s. 90s had some fuckin AWESOME toys(loved the Aliens and Predator figure lines, as well as the Toy Biz Marvel figures). Holy shit, nostalgia overload! Wild West Cowboys of MOOOOOO Mesa, son! Loved the figures, cartoon and the arcade game! Of course, probably one of the more commercial FORCES to come out in the 90s was Power Rangers. Damn, never saw so much crap(though, to be fair, I was never into Power Rangers, though my younger sibs were). 90s tries to pretend it wasn't as commercially driven. It kinda still was. Hell, even today, it still is.

In the end, you don't need something thought provoking to be happy, just something fun. That's what the 80s was all about.

[Ratty]

Batman TAS is and will always be my favorite adaptation of the comic. It's, IMO, perfect. No other animation/live action has actually come close to capturing the true comics as TAS(not even Nolan's movies, which are respectably their own thing). Probably one of the best cartoons around.

Though, I disagree with the notion that cartoons made to sell toys are bad. When you are a kid, you couldn't care less about that. Toys are fuckin FUN, ESPECIALLY if your a kid, and I know, when I was a kid, I wanted toys of cartoon characters. Hell, I loved the Batman TAS, Exo-Squad, Darkwing Duck, Gargoyles figures they had out in the 90s. 90s had some fuckin AWESOME toys(loved the Aliens and Predator figure lines, as well as the Toy Biz Marvel figures). Holy shit, nostalgia overload! Wild West Cowboys of MOOOOOO Mesa, son! Loved the figures, cartoon and the arcade game! Of course, probably one of the more commercial FORCES to come out in the 90s was Power Rangers. Damn, never saw so much crap(though, to be fair, I was never into Power Rangers, though my younger sibs were). 90s tries to pretend it wasn't as commercially driven. It kinda still was. Hell, even today, it still is.

In the end, you don't need something thought provoking to be happy, just something fun. That's what the 80s was all about.

Batman TAS might be the best American animation of that decade imo. It was good enough to inspire the DCAU, which lasted almost 15 years. Though you saw a lot of innovation and experimentation around that time. With the success of the Simpsons and Ren & Stimpy allowing lots of unusual creations like Beavis and Butthead, The Critic, Duckman and Rocko's Modern Life to have a shot at the mainstream. Even if they didn't always succeed.
Whether or not commercialism can inspire genuine "art" is something that's been pondered since the Pop Art movement in the late 50s, but I think most people today agree that it can even if it usually doesn't. And I think a lot of people would agree Batman TAS is.
there is another show, probably my favorite cartoon ever made, that comes from the 90s. With the exception of the pilot and a few quirky episodes it pictured a dystopian world in which evil had already won. Only a small handful of survivors formed a resistance to the evil dictator who had not only conquered the planet but turned everyone they had ever loved into mindless robotic servants. That series? Sonic the Hedgehog.

PS- Let's not forget that without Batman TAS we wouldn't have gotten Big O either.

[RichterB]

Batman TAS might be the best American animation of that decade imo...PS- Let's not forget that without Batman TAS we wouldn't have gotten Big O either.

Technically speaking, I think [the amazing] Batman: The Animated Series was animated in Japan by some of the same people who would go on to animate The Big-O. Working on Batman was an influence on their style. Shame about The Big-O losing that "optioned" 3rd Season, but good to hear it get a shout out!

As for Castlevania IV, I think it still holds up. I like Dracula X SNES' graphical style a lot, but Castlevania IV has a mood that's incredible. (It, Simon's Quest, and the 64 entries are perhaps the creepiest/moodiest. As was noted, Castlevania IV seems to have had an influence on the "dark" style of CV64). One thing that BAFFLES me is how Castlevania IV, Dracula X SNES, and Bloodlines can get their respective power out of 16-bits, and yet the later GBA and DS entries, while competent-looking, feel graphically inferior on the whole. What's up with that?

[crisis]

I loved The Critic, but perhaps I'm a bit biased since I live in NY 

Duckman was also quirky & funny as hell (Cornfed was the man!). Does anyone remember the Mario Bros. show where the first 5 minutes was live-action with actors, then the rest was animated? lmao

about Ren & Stimpy... anyone remember this??

Nickelodeon, accidental porn moment

[Jorge D. Fuentes]

It seems this topic has run its course, since it's being taken into non sequitur directions.
Thus, locked.