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« Reply #2220 on: July 16, 2015, 04:13:39 PM »
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I would like to see theme variety. We already have the traditional themes like entrance, arena, catacombs, clock towers and so on. There is however one theme I would like to see in this game; Backyard garden. I remember the Hedge Maze/garden in CV 64 (I know. The game sucked). How awesome would it be if we have a literal rose garden in this game. Not some indoor garden like in Dawn of Sorrow but an outdoor one where it is still technically part of the mansion/castle.

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Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
« Reply #2221 on: July 17, 2015, 09:15:43 AM »
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So, apparently Shenmue 3 just beat Bloodstained as most funded video game Kickstarter. While I'm a huge Shenmue fan I still would've liked to see Bloodstained stay on top, but it was inevitable I guess. People have been waiting for Shenmue for 14 years. Anyway, between all these KS successes, it's a victory for video game fans anyway. Let's  just hope Shenmue 3 doesn't blow....
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« Reply #2222 on: July 17, 2015, 09:18:10 AM »
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Well, problem is it's friggin' Shenmue, what did you think was gonna happen? :V
It is precisely because it never cared, that people do care.  It's something which it's lacking, because that which it has, it has lackluster of.
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« Reply #2223 on: July 17, 2015, 09:19:30 AM »
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Well, problem is it's friggin' Shenmue, what did you think was gonna happen? :V

Yeah, I edited my post a little :D

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« Reply #2224 on: July 17, 2015, 10:57:33 AM »
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« Reply #2225 on: July 17, 2015, 03:41:53 PM »
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I'm pretty sure this is the largest thread in the dungeon so far

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« Reply #2226 on: July 30, 2015, 10:31:19 AM »
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Shenmue beating kickstarter records mean nothing since it will obviously not be up to expectations, nor even be as played as often as Bloodstained Ritual of the Night will. 

Shenmue is an extremely overrated franchise.  A lot of gamers don't realize Shenmue flopped because it was a super
boring concept to begin with, and literally has no replay value, and less freedom than the average open world game.
Ryo sucks too.  There are heroes/protagonists that accomplished more significant things in a SINGLE GAME, than
what Ryo has done across TWO games.   

Especially these days with so many gamers thirsty for action and rant about boring and uneventful questing,
could find the newest Shenmue to be even less eventful than a Telltales game and less rewarding than other games.
 The canned Shenmue mmorpg was 1000x more interesting in concept and possibilities. 


but enough about that, Bloodstained Ritual of the Night being 2nd highest kickstarted funded game is still great, and with all the modes, content and features it's getting, it will be more of a gamer's game than those games that are too dependent on narrative to give players incentive to keep playing. 
Bloodstained has a story, but people don't need to play a IGAvania for the story to enjoy the overall gameplay and content.

and that's a great advantage!!

 Bloodstained is more of a gamer's game instead of an interactive movie or some semi sandbox with little action. 
and Bloodstained is really the better of the two.    ^_^

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« Reply #2227 on: July 30, 2015, 01:52:11 PM »
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Shenmue beating kickstarter records mean nothing since it will obviously not be up to expectations, nor even be as played as often as Bloodstained Ritual of the Night will.

That really makes no sense. How do you even know Shenmue 3 won't be played as often? For all we know, in a couple years when these games are out, Bloodstained could wind up being an extremely terrible game, with Shenmue 3 being far superior.

Shenmue is an extremely overrated franchise.  A lot of gamers don't realize Shenmue flopped because it was a super
boring concept to begin with, and literally has no replay value, and less freedom than the average open world game.
Ryo sucks too.  There are heroes/protagonists that accomplished more significant things in a SINGLE GAME, than
what Ryo has done across TWO games.

I've attached a screenshot roundup of all reviewer scores of the previous two Shenmue games. And it does not look like a flop to me. The game did extremely well critically. It was deemed a commercial failure since its sales didn't compensate for its development costs, but it was still the fourth best-selling game on Dreamcast.

Bloodstained is more of a gamer's game instead of an interactive movie or some semi sandbox with little action. 
and Bloodstained is really the better of the two.    ^_^

Again, how could you possibly know Bloodstained is a better game? Neither of them are coming out for a couple years, so it's outright impossible to know.
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Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
« Reply #2228 on: July 30, 2015, 02:00:46 PM »
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how could you possibly know Bloodstained is a better game? Neither of them are coming out for a couple years, so it's outright impossible to know.

It's actually quite simple.

Bloodstained is made by Iga and is a spiritual successor to Castlevania, and Shenmue 3 is not.
Ergo, on this Castlevania forum is is gentlemanly and right to give the gameplay edge to Bloodstained.

[sarcasm]Go to one of them there Shenmue forums and brag about 3 if you love it so much -- we dun server yer kind here[/sarcasm]

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« Reply #2229 on: July 30, 2015, 02:18:53 PM »
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That's kinda missing the point of my argument, though. It doesn't matter that it's a spiritual successor to Castlevania, and it doesn't matter that this is a Castlevania forum. To argue that a game that is probably coming out in March 2017 is better than a game that's also not even close to release yet, when neither of them have proper gameplay footage or a playable demo out is a nonsensical argument.

Mind you, I'm no Shenmue fanboy. I thought the first one was pretty good, but it was something I played in short bursts. I don't even think I've ever beaten it, either. I didn't even know the second one was out here until a couple years ago.

But I'm just saying. Neither of the games are out, or even close to being out, and I'm 100% positive affinity hasn't played either of them, so to say one is better than the other in those circumstances makes no sense. Saying "I think Bloodstained will be better than Shenmue 3!" and saying "Bloodstained is better than Shenmue 3!" are two totally different statements, the latter making no sense at this point in time. And he stated the latter, hence my argument.
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« Reply #2230 on: July 30, 2015, 03:12:29 PM »
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Honestly, I still to this day don't have a gorram clue what Shenmue even is.

I do know that those who like it usually seem to regard it with the same fevered anticipation that born agains regard the Second Coming. Or like Valveheads regard the idea of Half Life 3.

But that still doesn't explain to me what Shamu--Shenron-- SHENMUE is.
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« Reply #2231 on: August 02, 2015, 11:54:56 AM »
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Hope we get another update soon, I wonder what the current build looks like now.


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« Reply #2233 on: August 04, 2015, 08:39:14 AM »
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Wait, what? A Not!Gabriel with some Japanese elements? Source?

EDIT: Never mind, saw it on Siliconera.
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It is precisely because it never cared, that people do care.  It's something which it's lacking, because that which it has, it has lackluster of.
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« Reply #2234 on: August 04, 2015, 09:44:19 AM »
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This is what Gabriel would have looked like in the original timeline.

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