Eh...I think it's nice to have a more laid-back approach, too. The old FESS forums I mentioned above were *kinda* like that--our old main mod used to be called the "Idiot Molestor," and man you shoulda seen some of the smackdowns he laid out (he used to be in the Navy). It does get stressful for people, though, both in terms of the new people who joined (our forums got a reputation for being "elitist" after a while) and the people who meted out the punishments. The old fella mellowed out quite a bit over the years, even considering how FESS is inactive now. This isn't to say the same doesn't apply to me, I used to be at loggerheads with him but now I understand his position better, thanks to the viewpoint you've raised here. I'm just sayin that it does have its drawbacks u.u