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Title: God of War PS4
Post by: Belmontoya on June 13, 2016, 09:04:39 PM
Thank you God. Just... Thank you.

https://youtu.be/CJ_GCPaKywg
Title: Re: God of War PS4
Post by: Claimh Solais on June 13, 2016, 09:21:38 PM
Game looks sick. Makes me want to actually trudge through the garbage that was the first game.
Title: Re: God of War PS4
Post by: Dracula9 on June 13, 2016, 09:29:14 PM
My only concern is how the world seems to have recovered back to fruition after the seeming apocalypse at the end of GoW3, within the short period of time it took Kratos to get a bit older and grow a sick beard--though I expect this to be covered via flashbacks and narrative exposition.

It also seems to suggest old baldy passing the torch, which would be an interesting story mechanic if it is.

Viking Kratos though, fuck yeah. The Nord in me is fuckin' pumped.
Title: Re: God of War PS4
Post by: theplottwist on June 13, 2016, 10:19:12 PM
It also seems to suggest old baldy passing the torch, which would be an interesting story mechanic if it is.

He's not. Dev confirmed you're playing as Kratos through the entire game on the post-conference interview.

My only concern is how the world seems to have recovered back to fruition after the seeming apocalypse at the end of GoW3, within the short period of time it took Kratos to get a bit older and grow a sick beard--though I expect this to be covered via flashbacks and narrative exposition.

Kratos killed all greek gods > power vaccum created by Kratos draws previously-kept-in-check gods from all over to take the empty throne(s) > Norse gods win. Gods of nature fix the inbalance generated by the previous gods' death.

BAM explained. Though if I'm not mistaken, Chains of Olympus introduced Persian mythology, implying the greek gods didn't in fact rule over the entire world.
Title: Re: God of War PS4
Post by: Dracula9 on June 13, 2016, 10:28:16 PM
Ah, I didn't catch that interview yet. Here's to what's likely gonna be a dead kid, then. *raises glass*

Frankly, a "hey those asshats aren't in power anymore, let's go fix things up and do a better job" route is what I imagined they'd have to take--either that, or the implied apocalypse at the end of GoW3 didn't actually affect the entire world, and only the realm which the Greek pantheon held power, which would probably look really weird to anyone living on the borders just outside of Greece.

"Hey Jim, you seeing this shit? Greece is going to absolute shit over there!"

"Yeesh, poor bastards--good thing we live on this side of the border."

But in actuality, it'll likely have to be the Norse pantheon taking up the reigns, since the Greek Pantheon have literal locations for the afterlife and Atlas holding the world is completely literal, and a whole slew of other things a new pantheon in the same universe would contradict and have to fix.

I'm honestly rather eager to see how they'll explain it, since there are a LOT of things to cover.
Title: Re: God of War PS4
Post by: X on June 14, 2016, 10:29:00 AM
I'm kinda all GoW'ed out. I've not finished GowIII nor GoW ascension. Even now, years later I still don't have the effort to pick up where I've left off. I might pick it up just to say I own it but I'm worried that I'll never play it and just take up space in my room.
Title: Re: God of War PS4
Post by: Belmontoya on June 14, 2016, 11:42:03 AM
I'm kinda all GoW'ed out. I've not finished GowIII nor GoW ascension. Even now, years later I still don't have the effort to pick up where I've left off. I might pick it up just to say I own it but I'm worried that I'll never play it and just take up space in my room.

It's not like they are too many God of war games. It's not like assassins creed or something.

GOW3 was fucking incredible. If you didn't finish that then maybe it's just not your thing.
Title: Re: God of War PS4
Post by: X on June 14, 2016, 11:19:11 PM
It was my thing for a time but then I got burnt out. When that happens I almost never touch the game again. And ascension just felt more of the same. I think the GoW game that I enjoyed the most was Chains of Olympus. It wasn't overly long as the other felt. It was just right. although what i though was epic and hilarious at the same time was Kevin Sorbo voice-acting Hercules. Priceless  ;D
Title: Re: God of War PS4
Post by: Dracula9 on June 14, 2016, 11:42:30 PM
Well, who'd know the character better than Sorbo?
Title: Re: God of War PS4
Post by: JR on June 15, 2016, 12:41:38 AM

GOW3 was fucking incredible. If you didn't finish that then maybe it's just not your thing.

I dunno...I kind of agree. I loved the first one, enough to go back and beat it on God Mode after my first playthrough. Then the second one came, and it was okay. Then by the time I played 3, I just kind of felt like, "why is this series still going?" It just seemed like they ran out of the focus that made the first one so great.
Title: Re: God of War PS4
Post by: Lumi Kløvstad on June 15, 2016, 02:23:44 PM
I never thought the day would come where my pagan faith would lead to me coming across as anything similar to a Bible thumper buuuuuuuut

The Norse pantheon is one I worship, honor, and respect every day. I'm very not cool with a game in which a foreigner comes to their lands and just up and murders them, especially a game in which the player is the one doing the actual murdering. It seems almost sacreligious of the premise, in some very small way for me.

Like... I know the game is just a game. It's a work of fiction and it'll probably be really fun, like every God of War game that isn't the first one has been.

And I know that, at some point, I might be overcome with curiosity and try it -- and that it will be well constructed and fun.

It's also a hard pill to swallow, like having a good relationship with your parents and then someone makes a game in which the goal is to murder them, your specific mom and dad. It doesn't matter how good the game is or how much anyone else enjoys it -- they aren't killing THEIR parents after all, just yours -- when the time comes for you to to play it, there will just be this nagging sense of wrongness to the whole affair.

On the flip side, as a proud follower of the Nordic gods, I'm also keen to test my blade against them, even if it is only in a video game.

And that's where my analogy falls flat.

I don't think I've ever been so conflicted about a game before!
Title: Re: God of War PS4
Post by: Belmontoya on June 15, 2016, 03:56:49 PM
Kratos could fight Jesus and I wouldn't have a problem.

To each their own.
Title: Re: God of War PS4
Post by: Lumi Kløvstad on June 15, 2016, 04:11:41 PM
Kratos could fight Jesus and I wouldn't have a problem.

To each their own.

I've seen such fanart and it is awesome.

Though the real thing would be more like Kratos vs Zenyatta

Kratos: *moves in for the kill*
Jesus: ...EXPERIENCE TRANQUILITY... *is now invincible and regains all his health*
Kratos: FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU~~!!!!

In truth, like I said, I will probably play the game at some point and I'll come up with a final opinion then.
But right now, for the time being, I'm just a little salty about it.
Title: Re: God of War PS4
Post by: Belmontoya on June 15, 2016, 04:19:31 PM
Right. I find religion fascinating, but I don't personally believe in any one.

I'm agnostic. I do believe a powerful entity or entities exist beyond our perception. But I make no assumptions about what it is or they are or if it's aware of us or not.

So I'm not offended by anything like this.
I do think a certain amount of respect should be held when dealing with religion.

GOW has never really been a red flag for me though.
Title: Re: God of War PS4
Post by: Belmontoya on June 15, 2016, 04:20:30 PM
Kratos vs Tom Cruise!
Title: Re: God of War PS4
Post by: Lumi Kløvstad on June 15, 2016, 04:57:15 PM
GOW has never really been a red flag for me though.

That is something I do my best to take into account. Even when God of War was dealing with Greek Gods, the portrayals weren't particularly accurate (or even attempting to be), save for the legendary levels of dickishness the Greek Gods were so often fabled for*.

God of War definitely isn't a scholarly work, and that helps ease the pain a lot.

One thing I'd have preferred though would be trading Kratos for an actual Viking who is set on a path of destruction by the machinations of Loki, who has finally given in to the irreconcilable differences between him and Asgard. Before the player protag can actually do irreparable damage though, the truth comes out and Loki is now set up as the new Arc Villain with the hero confronting an army of Giants, Dragons, Dark Elves and other monsters from Norse lore aplenty on his quest for redemption.

I mean, it's not as if the Vikings had a culture of warrior poets who composed hundreds of epic stories with more or less exactly this sort of thing as a basic plot -- the Volsung Saga is pretty much this to a tee.

Actually, I'd kill for a videogame adaptation of the Volsung Saga, now that I think about it. I mean, the epic saga that gave us the story of Sigurd (later Siegfried) slaying the Dragon and also the premise for all of Wagner's greatest operas? AS A VIDEO GAME? HELL YEAH. I WANT THAT.

Bonus points: Sigurd's story and family saga leads DIRECTLY into the life of Ragnar Lodbrok (for you fans of the Vikings TV show) in that Aslaug, Ragnar's second wife, was said to be the daughter of Brynhildr, the Valkyrie that Sigurd falls in love with.

It can still be God of War without Kratos, I think, as long as it was made clear that this was kind of a "northern spin off".


*Any society that coins the phrase "i anthropótita eínai to paichnidáki ton theón", or "mankind is the plaything of the gods" probably knew that their gods weren't exactly the bosom pals of humanity with our best interests at heart.
Title: Re: God of War PS4
Post by: X on June 15, 2016, 06:01:32 PM
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Kratos vs Tom Cruise!

LOL! If only! I'd pay to play that. And only if I were playing Kratos.
Title: Re: God of War PS4
Post by: JR on June 15, 2016, 07:27:46 PM
Is it me, or does this footage feel like they put The Witcher and The Last Of Us in a blender, and then threw Kratos into it? Still interested to see what comes of the game, but that's the vibe I'm getting.
Title: Re: God of War PS4
Post by: Dracula9 on June 16, 2016, 03:37:18 AM
Actually, I'd kill for a videogame adaptation of the Volsung Saga, now that I think about it. I mean, the epic saga that gave us the story of Sigurd (later Siegfried) slaying the Dragon and also the premise for all of Wagner's greatest operas? AS A VIDEO GAME? HELL YEAH. I WANT THAT.

"Alright, now see that big scary dragon guarding all that gold and shit? Yeah, go climb in a ditch and poke him in the stomach."

"Whaddya mean you want a big epic battle, that's crazy talk he breathes poison and shit, go climb in the fucking hole and stab him in the stomach already!"
Title: Re: God of War PS4
Post by: chainsawmidget on June 19, 2016, 03:00:37 PM
I enjoyed the first God of War, but as the games went on, I found myself liking the main character less and less until in the last one, he came across as worse than any of the beings he'd been fighting.  I can't say I'm happy to see the guy make a come back.