Topic: CVD -Political Discussion

[cecil-kain]

Nationalist-Capitalist-Secularist-Populist-Libertarian

No Party affiliation at this time
You?

[Highwind Dragoon]

Globalist-Communist-Secularist-Populist-Socialist

[Abnormal Freak]

Of those, I'd identify as capitalist. But then, pro-capitalist is kinda like being pro-breathing. ;) People just don't know what's good for 'em, I suppose.

[X]

Hmm... Tough choice. Personally I'd take all the good points from each type government and combine them into one.

-X

[Harrycombs]

I voted Globalist-Communist-Secularist-Socialist.

People just don't know what's good for 'em, I suppose.

They don't. Thats why the government needs to show most people how to live  

I do support Market-Socialism though (at least at this stage of world development). State-owned corporations are the future.

[uzo]

UZOist


And hell no. Fuck communism. That is just an ideological piece of garbage. People are not equal, and people do not want to become equal. With no incentive to work, we will never prosper.

The idea that the government knows best is also a huge load of bullshit. They are usually the ones with the least idea on what personal choices should be imposed on the people. I will eat what I want. I will spend my money and time doing what I want. I will make my own decisions and I will fail or succeed in my life on my own accord. When I fail, do not pick me back up. I got my own two damn legs. You stay the hell out of it.

When you baby people past a certain point they never learn to improve themselves. They keep doing the same mistakes over and over because they are protected from failure. When a child touches fire, they learn fire is hot. They wont do it again; they learn and adapt. Protect the child from the fire and he will continue to crawl toward it forever.

[cecil-kain]

UZOist


And hell no. Fuck communism. That is just an ideological piece of garbage. People are not equal, and people do not want to become equal. With no incentive to work, we will never prosper.

The idea that the government knows best is also a huge load of bullshit. They are usually the ones with the least idea on what personal choices should be imposed on the people. I will eat what I want. I will spend my money and time doing what I want. I will make my own decisions and I will fail or succeed in my life on my own accord. When I fail, do not pick me back up. I got my own two damn legs. You stay the hell out of it.

When you baby people past a certain point they never learn to improve themselves. They keep doing the same mistakes over and over because they are protected from failure. When a child touches fire, they learn fire is hot. They wont do it again; they learn and adapt. Protect the child from the fire and he will continue to crawl toward it forever.

Hmm... Sounds like you are Capitalist-Populist-Libertarian?

[X]

Actually I'm all for this type of government:

http://www.thevenusproject.com/

-X

[A-Yty]

Quarter-of-a-Libertarian-Radical Half-Conservative-Mixed-Economist

[Tanatra]

Anti-Stupidity isn't an option?

[cecil-kain]

Anti-Stupidity isn't an option?

Stupidity is often in the eyes of the beholder --although I will agree some things are universally stupid...

[Mooning Freddy]

I define my world-view as conservative, but not the American-style stereotypical "conservative" (anti-abortions, anti-gay marriage, pro-death penalty, pro liberal economy...)

I'm rather a person who believes that changes SHOULD occur, but they should occur slowly and gradually. Abrupt changes always cause great damage. I oppose to any kind of political radicalism.
My belief is that the individual may be smart, but the masses are irresponsible and ignorant. This is a starting point from which I may draw conclusions: Give people easier access to weaponry ==> More people would be killed. Legalize drugs ==> more drug abusers.
It's all about the statistics, really. 

[Sumac]

On one hand I am Socialist, on the other I am Anarchist.
Couldn't chose only one option.

[cecil-kain]

On one hand I am Socialist, on the other I am Anarchist.
Couldn't chose only one option.

That's an interesting position --Anarchists are generally more extreme than Libertarians in opposing socialist intrusions into their personal lives.  Anarchy has always been about the supremacy of the individual over the state.  Modern Anarchy is primarily obsessed with international conspiracies to establish a centralized World Government (New World Order)

[Joachim]

globalist-socialist-secularist-communist-capitalist.

pretty damn ardent about that. i'm only capitalist in so much as I believe people should have the freedom to do what they like so long as it does not negatively affect or impact the people at large: it is the negative side-effects of capitalism that i oppose, that i go to socialism and communism for; the fact that wealth ignorantly concentrates towards the top, the fact that people are intrinsically selfish to some degree and will do what benefits them rather than what benefits their consumers or people. Ideally, government and market would be two separate sectors, with the latter ruled by - but not necessarily inhibited by - government. the role of government would be to create a basis for life, to enable people to seek out and live their own life of their own accord, because nature will never do such a thing and nor will unrestrained capitalism. a strong public education system, a strong public healthcare system (both of these in conjunction with private alternatives, if people so wish), child labor laws, anything that will enable the individual to escape the confines of circumstance and to press forward. essentially, government is a counter-balance.

i find the idea of patriotism ignorant in the same way i find dogmatic faith ignorant, and any country that would seek to rise above others not for the benefit of them but for the benefit of its ego deserves ruin.