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Title: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: Pfil on June 11, 2013, 10:40:16 AM
Nagumo gave me the idea  ;)
And I have no problem on admitting.
Granted, it's the lowest point in the Iga dinasty, but that's not saying much to me, because I pretty much loved everything he (and his teams) did.
Granted, also, the recycled sprites don't look well in a high definition platform.
It doesn't have a story, yes. But it doesn't need to.
The important thing here is that I got to see a sort of "Greatest Iga Hits Remixed" kind of game, right in the middle of the LoS trilogy (because I played it on PS3, and it wasn't until a couple months ago that I could get all the extra content, including stages, characters and soundtrack... extra content that happens to be the best content of the game, in terms of music, characters and fan service levels).
It was, and it still is, a great way to ease my patience and wait until I can know what the future of Castlevania is.
Anyone can say anything about this game, I won't argue that bit is mediocre, but so what? If I like it, I don't really care about that. It's always a good and fun time for me, and after a day of work, having at least 1 hour before sleeping with this is always great. I get to be Charlotte, Maria, Shanoa... I get to play SotN, CV1, Getsu Fuuma, the NDS levels mixed up, Egypt... I get to listen to an awesome soundtrack... and I can customize everything!  :)
So... yeah... I actually really like Harmony of Despair!  :)
Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on June 11, 2013, 11:36:32 AM
You and Affinity would make great pals.
I own the game... but I'm not fond of it.  I got it so I can give it a fair college try when it came out on PS3, but it's just not that fun for me to go through it.
Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: uzo on June 11, 2013, 11:47:17 AM
I won't argue that bit is mediocre

That's putting it lightly.

You presented your opinion in a humble manner though, so I won't rail you like Affinity.
Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: Belmontoya on June 11, 2013, 01:19:11 PM
Anyone who wants to play HOD online on PS3 should send me a friend request. It's a fun game when you have a good group to play with!
Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: Neobelmont on June 11, 2013, 02:03:39 PM
Anyone who wants to play HOD online on PS3 should send me a friend request. It's a fun game when you have a good group to play with!

I would love to play but I only got it on x-360 and I will not pay M$ anything anymore. online nada but I do have friends on there so but not so a couple months won't kill me...

But I'll say this, I do not play for grinding or weapon collecting I just whip the undead hell out of things. People questioned why I even play this in the first place my answer :Simon Belmont done. also I forgot the level up glitch in vs. but hey I might buy it again just to play with you guys but not the whole thing just simon and ch 10 maybe richter and fuma.
Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: Pfil on June 11, 2013, 02:11:14 PM
Sadly, I can't play online.
That's one disadvantage of having a PS3 with jailbreak.

Uzo: it's always nice to get along  :)
+1.
Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on June 11, 2013, 02:24:58 PM

Uzo: it's always nice to get along  :)
+1.

And you both get a +1 from me for civility. :D
Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: beingthehero on June 11, 2013, 02:45:29 PM
Weirdly enough I actually keep meaning to get this game, even though I know it's a hopelessly cheap effort. Still, it just looks like a nice weekend time killer. Since I have an x-boxxu, if i ever get it I'll probably message you, Neobelmont-sama, so you can chortle at my awful effort at dual-play.
Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: GuyStarwind on June 11, 2013, 02:59:27 PM
I thought it looked a little dumb when it first came out but once I bought it I thought differently. It's simple and mindless so it's an easy pick up game. I just wish everyone online didn't only use Soma. Overall I enjoy it.
Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: VladCT on June 11, 2013, 05:53:46 PM
I just wish everyone online didn't only use Soma.
Yeah, the only problem I see with this game aside from the blatant content recycling is the glaring lack of balance between characters. Overall it's okay if you have some good friends to play it with. I just wish the gameplay was faster paced so the hard rock/heavy metal-oriented soundtrack fits perfectly.
Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: PFG9000 on June 11, 2013, 09:58:25 PM
I love Harmony of Despair.  It's probably my favorite game of this generation.  I recently lost all of my PS3 data, so I picked up a new one and I've been re-playing HoD instead of the wealth of other PS3 games I have.

Of course it's not a perfect game, and obviously it's 95% recycled content.  But the people who make that argument miss out on the fact that the entire concept of the game - playing CV with others online - is new to the series.  There's quite a bit of rare equipment to get that will keep you busy for some time.  And once you get that equipment, it keeps the game fresh while you seek out other new rare items.  There was a good deal of DLC and enough customizable features to keep everything fresh, even though it's just a grindfest at heart.

The game is a little slow to get into.  It doesn't really pick up until about 5+ hours in when you've got enough equipment to hold your own.  I wonder how many of those who hate the game played it enough to really see what it's all about?
Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: son_the_vampire on June 12, 2013, 03:29:50 AM
Ummm hello where have all of u guys been the past 9000 hrs I spent on this game? Grab a whip and let's do the damn thing! It really isn't bad as long as there aren't a team of 6 Somas chopping up everything while rushing to the boss. Unfortunately all my friends aren't very chatty because of the language barrier but It won't stop them from inviting. Now go download this and I'll be waiting for you all
Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: Neobelmont on June 12, 2013, 02:05:33 PM
Weirdly enough I actually keep meaning to get this game, even though I know it's a hopelessly cheap effort. Still, it just looks like a nice weekend time killer. Since I have an x-boxxu, if i ever get it I'll probably message you, Neobelmont-sama, so you can chortle at my awful effort at dual-play.

The only problem is I do not have gold and I kind of don't want to pay Microsoft but  playing hod with a dungeon member might be enough . Also if your into fighters it'll be a match made.


Ummm hello where have all of u guys been the past 9000 hrs I spent on this game? Grab a whip and let's do the damn thing! It really isn't bad as long as there aren't a team of 6 Somas chopping up everything while rushing to the boss. Unfortunately all my friends aren't very chatty because of the language barrier but It won't stop them from inviting. Now go download this and I'll be waiting for you all

You spend too much damn time grinding    ;)     just go to vs with some one and equip the astral/master(IIRC) ring and boom done ...  :P


I thought it looked a little dumb when it first came out but once I bought it I thought differently. It's simple and mindless so it's an easy pick up game. I just wish everyone online didn't only use Soma. Overall I enjoy it.


Oh... you would love me.

I never use soma or alucard it's the main reason why I have not gotten all the achievements in the game. I'm a Belmont I whip stuff done.  ;D
Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on June 12, 2013, 04:05:20 PM
I have it on xbox, and while initially it was kinda fun despite the blatant recycle fest, it gradually become more and more boring and repetitive for me.

And stupid character balancing issue only further added to me eventual distaste for the game, Soma being to freaken overpowered and getting to keep his soul system from DOS while Alucard for instance has most of his more powerful abilities and weapons from SOTN taken away from him or severely toned down like the mist form and soul steal for instance.

The mist I can understand since it would make him unkillable in most instances, but why does the soul steal have to be so weak and only give very VERY little heath?

Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: GuyStarwind on June 12, 2013, 04:19:47 PM
Oh... you would love me.

I never use soma or alucard it's the main reason why I have not gotten all the achievements in the game. I'm a Belmont I whip stuff done.  ;D

Good man. I've only used Belmont characters and don't plan on changing that.
Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on June 13, 2013, 06:21:59 AM
And stupid character balancing issue only further added to me eventual distaste for the game, Soma being to freaken overpowered and getting to keep his soul system from DOS while Alucard for instance has most of his more powerful abilities and weapons from SOTN taken away from him or severely toned down like the mist form and soul steal for instance.

The mist I can understand since it would make him unkillable in most instances, but why does the soul steal have to be so weak and only give very VERY little heath?

Maybe they are pushing for Soma to be the non-Belmont fan fave rather than Allie who held that position for quite some time?
Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: Pfil on June 13, 2013, 10:34:49 AM
I guess it's just that the game is easier with Soma.
It's like the trick everyone uses when playing Mario Kart Wii online.
Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: Lashen on June 13, 2013, 10:50:13 AM
I play rather frequently on PSN and am always down to add people to play with, but all I'm really doing at this point is trying to get 9 of every item and it's dragging on (like this sentence).
Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: Neobelmont on June 13, 2013, 12:18:53 PM
Maybe they are pushing for Soma to be the non-Belmont fan fave rather than Allie who held that position for quite some time?

 I'll leave it at this. They are my least favorites.Cornell is my non-belmont fav 
Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: Lashen on June 13, 2013, 01:03:13 PM
Initially, the only character available wielding the Vampire Killer wasn't even a Belmont, and isn't even present on what one might consider the "box art" (title screen). :rollseyes:
Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: son_the_vampire on June 13, 2013, 01:09:10 PM
I thought it looked a little dumb when it first came out but once I bought it I thought differently. It's simple and mindless so it's an easy pick up game.
If you feel this is the case, might i suggest bringing Death into Dracula's room in chapter 10? Far from simple at that point! ;D
You spend too much damn time grinding    ;)     just go to vs with some one and equip the astral/master(IIRC) ring and boom done ...  :P
well trust me Neo, if you spent 5 years overseas and was confined to a base, grinding would be the least of your worries. I had no internet but was able to get the GAEMS case for my ps3 so we became good friends at that point!  ;D and even with that amount of time spent playing, I've never acquired all the weapons =(
Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: Neobelmont on June 13, 2013, 01:30:24 PM
If you feel this is the case, might i suggest bringing Death into Dracula's room in chapter 10? Far from simple at that point! ;D

well trust me Neo, if you spent 5 years overseas and was confined to a base, grinding would be the least of your worries. I had no internet but was able to get the GAEMS case for my ps3 so we became good friends at that point!  ;D and even with that amount of time spent playing, I've never acquired all the weapons =(

Your probably right  but  you're telling me that with all that time you spent could not get all the items  :o
Anyways if I did buy I would have no problem playing with ya but I do find it hard to buy it again. I did buy everything except maria for the 360.

In other news I hope I'm a good sparring partner(heck on-line friend) for your fighting game needs after all I would drag you off DCUO  ;D
Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: son_the_vampire on June 13, 2013, 01:35:44 PM
Dc is what has pulled my from my fighting game reigns. A tough competitor like yourself would release my from my first exposure to an MMO however :( might I suggest a fighting game thread? Basically a listing of whatever games you own that you would not mind playing online. All systems welcome!
Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: deadsanto123 on June 16, 2013, 04:55:28 PM
I enjoyed my time playing HoD, ill play it any day over lords of shadow
Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: Aridale on June 17, 2013, 08:38:09 PM
Ive got it on PSN. The only DLC I have is Simon and Origins. My names the same on psn as here if anyone wants to play. I tried findin online games but it always says none available =/
Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: PFG9000 on June 17, 2013, 10:56:51 PM
That's strange.  I've been playing the PSN version several days a week for the past two weeks, and there was only one time when I couldn't find any teammates.  I've even done about 6-7 Survival Mode sessions.  To be fair, I usually play during the day, and usually most of the other players are in Asia.  But there seems to be a lot of life in the online community yet.  Try playing on weekend evenings for the best results for USA players.
Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: Aridale on June 18, 2013, 07:16:37 AM
maybe its because I only have 3 chapters? I havent managed to solo chapter 1 at all yet so I havent unlocked any of the other ones
Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: Inccubus on June 18, 2013, 09:10:09 AM
Never really even gave this game much notice, really. But what I would give my right nut for is a detailed map of stage 10.
Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: Aridale on June 18, 2013, 09:58:15 AM
yeah I havent found any either but this one shows it pretty much just not in really good detail
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: Pfil on June 18, 2013, 11:48:15 AM
I never compared the map while playing. Is it exactly the same map as CV 1 or were some little details changed?
My brother told me it was the same, but I didn't realized it.
Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: Dark Nemesis on June 18, 2013, 11:49:17 AM
There isn't any, except from the one Aridale, has posted, but you can find in hi quality maps, up to chapter 7 here: http://www.castlevaniacrypt.com/games/hd/maps.htm (http://www.castlevaniacrypt.com/games/hd/maps.htm)
Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: Aridale on June 18, 2013, 12:04:27 PM
its not exactly the same but its close. They made a few changes here and there to make it all fit together like that. It didnt fit together as neat as the zelda 1 dungeons lol
Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: Pfil on June 18, 2013, 02:43:08 PM
Thanks!  :)
Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: crisis on June 18, 2013, 09:31:56 PM
Quote
But what I would give my right nut for is a detailed map of stage 10.
That can be arranged..

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FgKXrENC.gif&hash=d2c07361bb00ba10cc32397897a6eaa7)
Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: PFG9000 on June 20, 2013, 03:46:59 PM
maybe its because I only have 3 chapters? I havent managed to solo chapter 1 at all yet so I havent unlocked any of the other ones

That would do it.  Most of the activity is on stages 6-11 in Hard mode.  If you're interested, I'd be up for playing through it with you sometime to get the rest of your chapters unlocked.  I have both PS3 and X360 versions.  Once you can survive on Hard mode, the game opens up a bit more because you get the rare, powerful items quite a bit more easily, and new rares become available to you.
Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: GuyStarwind on June 20, 2013, 04:03:06 PM
I got on a few days ago but I couldn't find anyone to play with. I have all the maps too. Anywho I played a solo game and realized I had hadn't played for so long that I sucked.
Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: Neobelmont on June 20, 2013, 05:09:37 PM
That can be arranged..

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FgKXrENC.gif&hash=d2c07361bb00ba10cc32397897a6eaa7)

holy shi....  :o

Protect yo self!

Fool cut yo bobbitt off!!!
Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: Aridale on June 20, 2013, 05:53:54 PM
Im down for playin pretty much any evening or weekend sometime. If you send me a friend request on psn pls let me know via pm or somethin so I know your psn name unless its obvious
Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: Esco on June 21, 2013, 12:25:48 AM
I'm sorry, maybe it's the 4 shots of rum that I had, but this game makes me SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

For those who do not know, I was once hacking SOTN; but since about 2 years ago I started remaking it in game maker from scratch. I am not telling you all this to toot my own horn (I have a hot blonde to do that for me.......... SCHA WING!) as by my standards I am a decent programmer at best, not great. But instead to give you all a grasp on the fact that after hacking into several games, and examining their guts that I actually do know what I am talking about when it comes to game development, and am not just some random forum troll. :)

And this game is disgustingly pathetic. I beat it inside out, playing it with several times, maxing out several characters, and getting to the point where in a 6 person team, I can take on all 3 forms of Ryu, and a midboss..... what's his name alone with no problem. While everyone in my soma and friends team chants (yes everyone EXCEPT ME loves Soma; no surprise there) "Not bad."

And all I feel is remorse for wasting valuable time in my life that I can NEVER get back.

It is a lazy, cheap, pathetic excuse for professional work that is even lower in quality than a mediocre fan game.

Recently, a very talented programmer named mig made Castlevania: the lecarde Chronicles. This game is fun, full of neat surprises, and even though it is an old school 2d platformer type castlevania, has TONS of replay value. You just want to play it over and over again because it is so fun.

But that is not the case with Castlevania HD; it is fucking BORING! Repetitive, uncreative, and a true testament to why I hope IGA never gets a hold of Castlevania again. And fuck those of you who think he should get another chance, LOL (that fuck you part is a joke for those of you with the little man complex). If I wanted to spend all day item hunting, I would play diablo. And even then, the randomization would give me much more satisfaction than this waste of code.

Here is what makes it more pathetic: SOMEONE AS UNSKILLED AS ME CAN EASILY MAKE A GAME BETTER THAN THIS! I am not backed by a professional gaming company; I am all alone, with every little to no help, an amateur and no financial backing. Yet I can come up with stuff WAY more exciting than this while sitting on the toilet playing angry birds.

I hate this game. And i hate the people that try to defend it when posts like mine pop up. There is no excuse for this laziness. When I saw stages 10 & 11 first announced as 8 bit stages, I thought it was a joke. Imagine my shock when I realized they were serious.

Fuck you IGA & Co. for being this lazy. Fuck the dumbass dickhead of a cockface sperm guzzler in Konami's development dept. that approved the way you did this. Fuck those lame brained, brainwashed fanboys who can't even admit what a lame waste this was, and instead defend it blindly (another joke; don't get butthurt guys).

I could go on and on; but I really need to get back to studying. And posting while drinking NEVER ends good.  :-X
Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on June 21, 2013, 06:16:58 AM
Yes... perhaps you should no longer post after drinking, Esco.

You are breaking a number of forum rules with this post, and the thing is, I expect better of you and you continuously don't care:
-You are being an ass to people on this board who like a particular game, just because you disagree.  There are better ways to convey your statement.
-If you don't like the game, why post a response which will only make the defenders cry out further?  It's like "I hate ants 'cuz their sting bugs my feet, let me poke a stick at them"  only later "OW WHY DO THESE ANTS STING MY FEET, IT'S SO ANNOYING"?  Why not just let the thread die on its own?  It's like you cannot help yourself and you must post.  And not only must you post, you must be a dick with your response.
-You know better than this.
-Your choice of language shows lack of civility toward others.

I'm telling you for the last time, start acting civil on the board, Esco.

PS- I actually agree with your sentiment regarding the game, but I'm not going to post about it.  Let the people who like the game make the damn thread and talk about it already.
Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: Esco on June 23, 2013, 01:30:48 AM
I wasn't going to reply to you Jorge (at all honestly), but this has to be said: my post wasn't a big deal. I was drunk and made a humorous post that didn't call anyone out in particular, and I even stated at the offensive points that it was a joke. Seriously man, WTF?    ???

On a side note: I find humor in the fact that I post something as harmless as above, coupled with the fact that I BARELY EVER post, and you get all hot under the collar. Yet I can name SEVERAL people that you have known FOR YEARS here that are blatant trolls, post trash CONSTANTLY, talk down to everyone, don't contribute 1/5th of what I do........ and yet you laugh off everything they do. And If you think I am bs'ing, check my old U2U's; since this is basically YOUR forum I am sure you can. You will find that I am NOT the only one who feels this way.  :-\

Wasn't going to call you out, but since you did it first in front of the whole forum instead of keeping it between me and you, here you are.  Also, don't waste time threatening me with a ban or even doing it: I can program an engine from scratch so you know I have about FIFTY ways around a ban. ;) Not to mention that I am already a millimeter away from leaving here as is.  :rollseyes: All I come here for is to give updates (which I can ask one of 20 people to do) and OCCASIONALLY to ask for help, and I am not getting much of that from the "fans" here.
Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on June 23, 2013, 07:39:37 AM
It is only harmless to you.

I will not go by what 'you' think is harmless or not.
I don't care if you post once a year, or if you contribute 100 games to the community.  You break the rules, you're gone, simple as that.

Spare me your dudebro superhacker rhetoric.

Good night, sir.
Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: beingthehero on June 23, 2013, 12:34:29 PM
You have to contribute 101 games to the community to have ban immunity.

Also I played the demo run of the game again. Other than the fact that it was obviously made with a budget consisting of spare change found in a couch, it's actually kind of addictive. I can see a polished multiplayer CV being a moderate hit. HoDespair evidently sold well enough for it to be ported to the PS3, so the potential is easily there.
Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: Pfil on June 24, 2013, 02:42:03 PM
If nothing more, this game is a good way to have some quick and careless Igavania fun while we wait for the LoS saga to end.
And yes, the potential is there and I hope that someday it will come to life with a full new multiplayer CV game.
Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: TheouAegis on June 24, 2013, 05:47:08 PM
Why does Castlevania even need to be multiplayer? How many freakin' vampire hunters are there? First the Belmont clan wasn't enough for "fans", now one persona each of each character isn't enough? The gameplay is a step-up from the other IGAvanias (in terms of action, from what I can see), but that's not saying much. It's still a slop game. Oddly, I'll play the GBAvanias before I ever go near Hod. HD. Whatever the hell I'm supposed to abbreviate it to.

I won't put it quite as... colorfully... as Esco. My feelings don't run that deep because, well, as soon as I saw gameplay footage of HoD I had no desire whatsoever to play it. Since Esco has played it, his feelings ran deeper... too deep maybe. Alas, poor Esco! I knew him ... not.
Title: Re: So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o
Post by: Pfil on June 24, 2013, 10:26:48 PM
I'm happy just by playing alone, but playing with my brother was sure fun in this game.