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Title: serious question...
Post by: son_the_vampire on March 26, 2013, 12:49:32 PM
im really confused... ive been playing CV3 and noticed SYFA is pretty much a guy, So is SYFA, Sypha of the Benaldes clan? i just need a little clarification because im utterly confused at this point... thanks
Title: Re: serious question...
Post by: crisis on March 26, 2013, 01:13:07 PM
Cipher was born a man, but since Vlad Dracula came to power, he began his corruption of mankind. Cipher was then turned to a jello-like substance by the Poltergeist King, but that condition was reversed upon confronting the Cyclops, which saw Cipher's true nature. He then cast a spell, but it didn't work correctly so Cipher then morphed into a stone building. When Ralph the savior approaches, he frees Cipher with his Belmont Warlord Chromosones. Upon Vlad Dracula's defeat, Ralph summons the power of Holy to rectify the curse, which brought about Cipher's feminine side. Alucard agreed, despite Grant's jealousy. Hence forth, Cipher was now known as Sypha, in which she bore Ralph's children with much chagrin; eventually leading to Juiced but that is another story for another time.
Title: Re: serious question...
Post by: X on March 26, 2013, 06:18:07 PM
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im really confused... ive been playing CV3 and noticed SYFA is pretty much a guy, So is SYFA, Sypha of the Benaldes clan? i just need a little clarification because im utterly confused at this point... thanks

Her name is actually spelt 'Sypha'. 'Syfa' is incorrect. She is indeed a woman as the ending sequence of the game shows. But it does make you think otherwise until you finish the game.

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Cipher was born a man, but since Vlad Dracula came to power, he began his corruption of mankind. Cipher was then turned to a jello-like substance by the Poltergeist King, but that condition was reversed upon confronting the Cyclops, which saw Cipher's true nature. He then cast a spell, but it didn't work correctly so Cipher then morphed into a stone building. When Ralph the savior approaches, he frees Cipher with his Belmont Warlord Chromosones. Upon Vlad Dracula's defeat, Ralph summons the power of Holy to rectify the curse, which brought about Cipher's feminine side. Alucard agreed, despite Grant's jealousy. Hence forth, Cipher was now known as Sypha, in which she bore Ralph's children with much chagrin; eventually leading to Juiced but that is another story for another time.

LOL!
Title: Re: serious question...
Post by: Phoenix7786 on March 26, 2013, 06:21:29 PM
Syfa and Sypha were just mistranslations. As for Sypha's identity, the ending (assuming you choose her as your partner) reveals she has hidden her gender on purpose. That same reason is also probably why the game (and instruction manual) calls Syfa a he.
If I had to conjecture, I'm sure Metroid's big surprise that manly bad-ass Samus Aran is actually a woman was getting well-noticed by this point. Perhaps as a subtle homage (or attempt to cash in on it) they did the "Sypha's a woman!" twist at the end.

EDIT: Damn you X...I typed that whole little thing out and then I read "warning reply has been posted while you were typing" :P
At least I can still contribute my conjecture!
Title: Re: serious question...
Post by: Gaawa-chan on March 26, 2013, 06:28:11 PM
Cipher was born a man, but since Vlad Dracula came to power, he began his corruption of mankind. Cipher was then turned to a jello-like substance by the Poltergeist King, but that condition was reversed upon confronting the Cyclops, which saw Cipher's true nature. He then cast a spell, but it didn't work correctly so Cipher then morphed into a stone building. When Ralph the savior approaches, he frees Cipher with his Belmont Warlord Chromosones. Upon Vlad Dracula's defeat, Ralph summons the power of Holy to rectify the curse, which brought about Cipher's feminine side. Alucard agreed, despite Grant's jealousy. Hence forth, Cipher was now known as Sypha, in which she bore Ralph's children with much chagrin; eventually leading to Juiced but that is another story for another time.

Omg, I can't stop laughing... XD
Title: Re: serious question...
Post by: Lelygax on March 26, 2013, 10:42:01 PM
Syfa and Sypha were just mistranslations. As for Sypha's identity...

(click to show/hide)

@crisis
Im proud =ยด)
Title: Re: serious question...
Post by: TheouAegis on March 26, 2013, 11:16:52 PM
Even though Sypha has a feminine face and feminine voice, she's obviously a man.

Yeah, the end of the 20th century wasn't kind to the Y chromosome.
Title: Re: serious question...
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on March 27, 2013, 01:24:26 AM
@Crisis: That is so awesome! Please continue the story. hehehe.
Title: Re: serious question...
Post by: Lelygax on March 27, 2013, 01:39:22 AM
Why when I post crazy stories like that (I do it almost all the time) I didn't receive the same response? =(
Title: Re: serious question...
Post by: son_the_vampire on March 27, 2013, 05:14:52 AM
ok... i feel like i need to have her instead of grant... but he is so better and i cant use sypha unless i have the holy lightning? nothing goin on at work so imma give it a shot!
Title: Re: serious question...
Post by: X on March 27, 2013, 10:21:15 AM
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EDIT: Damn you X...I typed that whole little thing out and then I read "warning reply has been posted while you were typing" :P
At least I can still contribute my conjecture!

lol! Sorry about scooping your scope  ;D
Title: Re: serious question...
Post by: TheouAegis on March 28, 2013, 08:06:23 PM
Her ice is better than her lightning, IMO.

Then again, I play the Jap version and it's just a bubble. I don't remember how the lightning spell moved in the US one.
Title: Re: serious question...
Post by: Phoenix7786 on March 28, 2013, 08:10:31 PM
The lightning spell here shoots 3 balls that lock on and hover towards, through, and around a target. Think of Yoko's lightning attack in DoS's Julius mode.
Title: Re: serious question...
Post by: Gunlord on March 28, 2013, 09:09:30 PM
Sorry for a bit off-topic, but I LOVE Hokuto no Ken! We are livin~~Livin in 90s 90s 90s 90s~~~we still fight~~~fight in the 90s 90s 90s 90s~~~
Title: Re: serious question...
Post by: Lelygax on March 28, 2013, 09:16:36 PM
Nooooooo...! Son_the_vampire, they removed this video. T.T

! Fist of the Laugh Star (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZKArxweGs4#)

So instead of the parody take the original

Fist Of The North Star Opening Ver. 1 (Creditless) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bCyf1AwOJ8#)
Title: Re: serious question...
Post by: Ratty on March 28, 2013, 09:21:16 PM
Sypha was a woman but was referred to as a man in the English instruction manual (as was Samus Aran as Phoenix noted) I'm not sure if this was the case in the original Japanese manual. Her identification as a man in the English manual at least led to the funny situation of Sypha being portrayed as an old man in an awful, awful episode of Captain N: The Game Master. But yes she is indeed Sypha of the Belnades/Fernandez family and ancestor of the post-Trevor Belmonts.
Title: Re: serious question...
Post by: Koutei on March 28, 2013, 09:36:31 PM
He, She were not used by the Japanese manual. Sypha is called Sypha. It had the intention which probably hides a secret.
Title: Re: serious question...
Post by: TheouAegis on March 30, 2013, 12:08:17 PM
Considering how awkward it is to use he/she pronouns in Japanese, I don't think there was any intent to keep it a secret. Again, Sypha's art is female. Sypha's portrait if she's Trevor's ally is female. Sypha's voice is female. The only way Sypha could be confused for a male was if she was a new-half. So if you really want to push the "Sypha is a he" or "Sypha looks like a he" issue, then you have to go along with the premise that Sypha was a gay transvestite. Every serious gamer knows US instruction manuals are not canon except when the characters in the games are of US origin themselves  (e.g., Ninja Turtles, Mighty Max, Earthworm Jim, etc.).
Title: Re: serious question...
Post by: Phoenix7786 on March 30, 2013, 02:31:28 PM
Her in-game partner pic was hardly indicative of gender unless the U.S. and Japanese versions were different.
Title: Re: serious question...
Post by: Lelygax on March 31, 2013, 12:53:21 AM
 Exactly, its like discovering the answer for a mistery and then saying "I always knew that, its obvious, it only took me some time because I wasnt even trying" xD