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Title: Konami, push more CV on steam!
Post by: Crying Freeman on February 13, 2016, 10:43:07 PM
We have the Los games, which is great, but seriously... Konami is leaving big budget gaming, moving to smaller PC and mobile games, so isn't this the time to offer classic CV, even Contra or Gradius on steam? Especially now with how popular old school style games are. Hell, look at all the metroidvania on steam too! SOTN alone would be easy money (find it strange they ported it to XB360 and not PC). Yeah, people emulate, but there'll definitely be people coming to support them. They could even put Konami collectors series CV&contra compilation up. Plus, we need Adventure RB on a better platform, like seriously lol.
Title: Re: Konami, push more CV on steam!
Post by: Aceearly1993 on February 14, 2016, 05:46:54 PM
Plus, we need Adventure RB on a better platform, like seriously lol.

Just what I thought.

The Rebirth series, not limited to CV Adventure Rebirth, all should have a better result and reception than they could get now
And it's a shame that the system engine of Adventure Rebirth can't get a proper way to further expand its usage. Castlevania Chronicles'  system engine (PS1 port) also suffered from no further usage
Title: Re: Konami, push more CV on steam!
Post by: JayDominus on February 15, 2016, 10:21:49 AM
There really is no reason why Classicvanias and Metroidvanias aren't on Steam. Licensing emulators can't be THAT expensive compared to all the profits you get in exchange. Hell, porting the XBLA (or better yet, PSP) version of Symphony of the Night alone is a recipe for quick and easy cash.
Title: Re: Konami, push more CV on steam!
Post by: Crying Freeman on February 15, 2016, 09:30:03 PM
Just what I thought.

The Rebirth series, not limited to CV Adventure Rebirth, all should have a better result and reception than they could get now
And it's a shame that the system engine of Adventure Rebirth can't get a proper way to further expand its usage. Castlevania Chronicles'  system engine (PS1 port) also suffered from no further suage

A lot more could've been made out of the ReBirth engine, like a BR remake or even a Legends one(wouldn't happen cus of cannon). In terms of popularity, the game just couldn't strive because it was WiiWare. I'm sure it sold moderately well but if it was across all major platforms, or even exclusive to a distribution like Steam, it would've been more successful without a doubt.

I feel like Chronicles was hampered by it's late release and dated design (especially after how SOTN revolutionized the series and stared a genre). I think it's a great game, but any CV coming so soon off the heels of SOTN was destined to not do well.
Title: Re: Konami, push more CV on steam!
Post by: Crying Freeman on February 15, 2016, 09:35:31 PM
There really is no reason why Classicvanias and Metroidvanias aren't on Steam. Licensing emulators can't be THAT expensive compared to all the profits you get in exchange. Hell, porting the XBLA (or better yet, PSP) version of Symphony of the Night alone is a recipe for quick and easy cash.

Ikr? Companies do it all the time nowadays on multiple platforms. Plus they already have a compilation developed for windows already, which makes me scratch my head further. Plus they could capitalize on Bloodstained. Now wouldn't be the best time since Bloodstained's steam has run off for now, but once there's another substantial update or once Bloodstained comes out, there's another great opportunity yelling at Konami.

Iga: Bloodstained is coming along fine, here's an update on what we're doing and what more the game will offer.
Konami: Tons of people want this game but it's not out yet, let's release what it's based while the demand for it is at it's highest.
Title: Re: Konami, push more CV on steam!
Post by: zangetsu468 on February 16, 2016, 02:32:13 AM
I feel like Chronicles was hampered by it's late release and dated design (especially after how SOTN revolutionized the series and stared a genre). I think it's a great game, but any CV coming so soon off the heels of SOTN was destined to not do well.

I love Chronicles, especially the arrange version which I realise I'm probably in the minority of those who love it.

SoTN just had that artistic and crisp elegant finesse and level of detail and exploration that CVC was just never going to be a standout being released on its heels. SoTN is a difficult game to rival even today. CVC is still attractive to me, especially in design and music but its visuals are slightly forgettable. It's almost a merge of SCIV and Haunted Castle... Or something.
Title: Re: Konami, push more CV on steam!
Post by: Lelygax on February 16, 2016, 07:46:23 AM
*Konami sees this thread and release Encore of the Night on PC*
Title: Re: Konami, push more CV on steam!
Post by: X on February 16, 2016, 09:49:22 AM
Quote
I love Chronicles, especially the arrange version which I realise I'm probably in the minority of those who love it.

I also liked the arranged version as well. I felt the music fit the areas, and even if the game itself was older, it all worked out. But what I didn't like was Simon's forced-on sexchange  :P  He was fine as he was  :'(
Title: Re: Konami, push more CV on steam!
Post by: Crying Freeman on February 16, 2016, 11:10:20 AM
I love Chronicles, especially the arrange version which I realise I'm probably in the minority of those who love it.

SoTN just had that artistic and crisp elegant finesse and level of detail and exploration that CVC was just never going to be a standout being released on its heels. SoTN is a difficult game to rival even today. CVC is still attractive to me, especially in design and music but its visuals are slightly forgettable. It's almost a merge of SCIV and Haunted Castle... Or something.

My only real gripe with arrange mode is Kojima's Simon redesign, but giving the fire effects a realistic look was interesting! Plus they did give an arrange mode instead of just porting the game, which was awesome. I prefer classicvania, I still prefer SOTN over CVC, so imagine how disappointing people who were introduced to CV with SOTN were at the time.

It at least got OK reviews, where today if a similar situation happened it would be panned across the board and tons of poeple would lose their job.
Title: Re: Konami, push more CV on steam!
Post by: Crying Freeman on February 16, 2016, 11:11:15 AM
*Konami sees this thread and release Encore of the Night on PC*

LOL I woudln't be surprised  ;D
Title: Re: Konami, push more CV on steam!
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on February 16, 2016, 10:18:49 PM
*Konami sees this thread and release Encore of the Night on PC*

Muahahahahaha! It would work.
Title: Re: Konami, push more CV on steam!
Post by: Lumi Kløvstad on February 17, 2016, 03:12:46 PM
Admit it: Harmony of Despair would rock on Steam.
Title: Re: Konami, push more CV on steam!
Post by: VladCT on February 17, 2016, 06:51:00 PM
After they rebalance it, of course. As it is I wouldn't touch it with a ten-foot pole due to how horribly unbalanced it is.
Title: Re: Konami, push more CV on steam!
Post by: Lelygax on February 17, 2016, 10:38:51 PM
I would buy it for sure.
Title: Re: Konami, push more CV on steam!
Post by: piscesdreams on February 18, 2016, 04:20:43 PM
I would really like to see Adventure Rebirth get a wider release than just WiiWare.  I passed up Harmony of Despair the first time around, but I could see myself playing it on Steam.
Title: Re: Konami, push more CV on steam!
Post by: KaZudra on February 18, 2016, 05:22:37 PM
Dracula X chronicles plays like it was meant to be on a big screen, and Sega is still making quite a bit of money with those dirt cheap genesis releases
Title: Re: Konami, push more CV on steam!
Post by: Crying Freeman on February 18, 2016, 06:41:35 PM
Admit it: Harmony of Despair would rock on Steam.

Can't argue with that! Tbh when I used to play it it always felt like it'd be more suited for a PC environment (typing out messages to people would be better, stage is so zoomed out and sprites are so small it'd be easier to play infront of a monitor, the sort of dungeon crawley feel it has sometimes)
Title: Re: Konami, push more CV on steam!
Post by: squaretex on March 27, 2016, 07:57:03 AM
Dracula X chronicles plays like it was meant to be on a big screen, and Sega is still making quite a bit of money with those dirt cheap genesis releases

Oh yes...I think you're really on to something here.

I know we all yearn for an HD version of SotN, but why not get the FULL Dracula X in one place? I did have Rondo on the Wii, and enjoyed it even though classicvanias treat me badly. ;P So yes...a Steam bundle of Dracula X Chronicles would be quite the temptation. :D
Title: Re: Konami, push more CV on steam!
Post by: JayDominus on May 04, 2016, 05:22:46 AM
Dracula X chronicles plays like it was meant to be on a big screen, and Sega is still making quite a bit of money with those dirt cheap genesis releases
Well, if you want to play in big screen, you can get that PlayStation TV thingy that plays Vita and PSP games and use that to play Dracula X Chronicles, I read they are compatible.

Or just emulate it.
Title: Re: Konami, push more CV on steam!
Post by: knightmere on May 05, 2016, 07:17:34 AM
We have the Los games, which is great,

Eh no...
Title: Re: Konami, push more CV on steam!
Post by: knightmere on May 05, 2016, 07:19:24 AM
Unfortunately DXC is NOT compatible with PS TV in the US without using a hack.
Title: Re: Konami, push more CV on steam!
Post by: Lumi Kløvstad on June 01, 2016, 02:46:32 AM
Unfortunately DXC is NOT compatible with PS TV in the US without using a hack.

THIS IS LITERALLY THE REASON I DID NOT BUY ONE.

Seriously, Sony didn't just drop the ball with everything Vita related. They doused the ball in kerosene and tossed it in a blast furnace while cackling madly.
Title: Re: Konami, push more CV on steam!
Post by: Crying Freeman on June 05, 2016, 07:16:05 AM
THIS IS LITERALLY THE REASON I DID NOT BUY ONE.

Seriously, Sony didn't just drop the ball with everything Vita related. They doused the ball in kerosene and tossed it in a blast furnace while cackling madly.

Compatibility is exactly why I didn't get one. Army Corps of Hell was my favorite Vita game (before I sold my system like a ding dong), and then I learn the game isn't compatible with the Vita I'd prefer to own...... WHY!?!?!? It makes ZERO sense! Same goes for the DXC, ITS JUST A PSP GAME for crying out loud lol.

I understand Uncharted and other touch based games being incompatible cus you're using a gamepad, but ACoH as well as every PSP game DOES NOT USE ANY TOUCH OR GYROSCOPE CONTROL YOU DUMBFUCKS. It'd be an amazing system if it actually worked lol... I just thought of something: PSTV works with DS4, which has a touchpad- use the touchpad for front touch control, use the L2 or R2 in conjunction with the touchpad for backtouch control.... sounds a little clunky, but it's a solution lol
Title: Re: Konami, push more CV on steam!
Post by: BloodyShadowoftheDarkness on October 02, 2016, 10:51:39 AM
I don't understand why they don't do that.
They could do a classic collection just like the (arguably lazy) one Capcom did. Putting all the 8-bit games (and maybe Kid Dracula just for a bonus) as a test, and if people bought it (which I'm sure many would), just make other releases of older games.
If there's one series that could work well on Steam, it's this series.
Title: Re: Konami, push more CV on steam!
Post by: Chernabogue on October 02, 2016, 11:55:49 AM
Even if those are lazy ports, I'd buy more CV on Steam in a heartbeat. One can only dream about HD Metroidvanias...
Title: Re: Konami, push more CV on steam!
Post by: Jazz Paladin Productions on October 02, 2016, 12:31:26 PM
Unfortunately DXC is NOT compatible with PS TV in the US without using a hack.

And unfortunately, even with the hack, it doesn't look great as it could...
Title: Re: Konami, push more CV on steam!
Post by: Belmontoya on October 02, 2016, 02:27:12 PM
Vita is the best handheld I've ever owned.

They dropped the ball with PSTV. That's why I didn't buy one. It doesn't even support PS Vue..

I love my vita and continue to buy games on it and play it at least a few times a week.

Ya know what I did to play Rondo of Blood on the big screen? I bought a turbo duo, and an original imported copy of the game from Japan a few years after it came out.
Title: Re: Konami, push more CV on steam!
Post by: Eric Roman on October 02, 2016, 06:01:35 PM
It's a shame Konami doesn't really want all of this money of ours. 
Title: Re: Konami, push more CV on steam!
Post by: Thy Gory Rory on October 02, 2016, 08:39:54 PM
I'll also chime in that I'm disappointed that DXC isn't compatible with the Playstation TV... That was actually one of the major reasons why I bought one off clearance for $20. Damn.

...However, not a total loss and there are some great games worth mentioning that actually make the PSTV worth owning. All of the PSP Ys games are purchasable and playable along with the Vita exclusive "Ys: Memories in Celceta". So the PSTV is my Ys machine, ha ha...

Also worth mentioning is the fantastically faithful remake of the original "Final Fantasy Adventure" gameboy game re-titled "Adventures of Mana". So good! Oh, and pick up the metroidvania styled 2.5D game "Aeterno Blade". All of these games are each under $20!
Title: Re: Konami, push more CV on steam!
Post by: Lumi Kløvstad on October 03, 2016, 03:38:29 PM
It's a shame Konami doesn't really want all of this money of ours.

This is now my forum sig. Thank you for giving me the most usable of quotes, and I will second this sentiment.
Title: Re: Konami, push more CV on steam!
Post by: Jazz Paladin Productions on October 03, 2016, 09:49:47 PM
I'll also chime in that I'm disappointed that DXC isn't compatible with the Playstation TV... That was actually one of the major reasons why I bought one off clearance for $20. Damn.



I bought the PSTV exclusively for DXC and Final Fantasy IV complete...I'd still say it'd be worth it just for FFIV on the big screen in HD, but I'm not too sure it's really Konami's fault for this one, Sony's "whitelist" seems to be more of the issue from what I've read.
Title: Re: Konami, push more CV on steam!
Post by: TheTextGuy on October 03, 2016, 09:53:30 PM
...However, not a total loss and there are some great games worth mentioning that actually make the PSTV worth owning. All of the PSP Ys games are purchasable and playable along with the Vita exclusive "Ys: Memories in Celceta". So the PSTV is my Ys machine, ha ha...

Well... that makes me wish I got the PSTV on clearance.  I've finished YsI&II, Oath in Felghana and VI, so knowing that I missed out a chance to play the remaining Ys games (excluding V, which is on the SNES and apparently a black sheep and VIII, which is not out in non-Japanese territories yet) for relatively cheap kind of bums me out.  (I'm counting Oath in Felghana and Memories in Celceta as versions of Ys III and Ys IV respectively).

Also, with SEGA's Genesis titles on Steam (as KaZudra pointed out), maybe Konami could reach out to SEGA and get their Genesis games released there.  At this point though, we're more likely to see the Tecnosoft library get released on digital platforms long before that ever becomes a thing... if it ever becomes a thing.
Title: Re: Konami, push more CV on steam!
Post by: Eric Roman on October 03, 2016, 10:44:18 PM
WHAAAT, SHOW ME THE BUY-ALL-THUNDERFORCE-NOW!!! BUTTON.

I'm so there, dude; my money is ready. 
Title: Re: Konami, push more CV on steam!
Post by: TheTextGuy on October 03, 2016, 10:49:40 PM
WHAAAT, SHOW ME THE BUY-ALL-THUNDERFORCE-NOW!!! BUTTON.

I'm so there, dude; my money is ready. 

http://segabits.com/blog/2016/09/17/sega-announces-acquisition-of-technosofts-ips/ (http://segabits.com/blog/2016/09/17/sega-announces-acquisition-of-technosofts-ips/)

Nothing's set in stone atm for SEGA apart from Thunder Force III... but you know, the fact they're not only acknowledging it, but also releasing it in a compilation does bring up high hopes.  Apparently they are looking into rereleasing the other titles, so might want to keep an eye out.  Hopefully this means Thunder Force IV and V releases that don't send your wallets down the wazoo!  That, and Hyper Duel.  Love me some transforming robots.