Topic: None Shall Stand Against Him

[crisis]

We all know that Zobek is immortal, aka this universe's version of Death. Yet, Satan is also an immortal being, as is Dracula (temporarily, perhaps). Why would Zobek need Dracula's help in defeating Satan when he himself can't be killed by anyone, living or dead (according to his in-game bio)? He has nothing to lose either way.

[C Belmont]

Ever heard someone say "there are worse things than death"
Being immortal doesn't mean you can't be defeated, I believe Zobek was more worried about being forced to serve Satan than being killed.

[darkwzrd4]

Simple.  Satan is more powerful than Zobek and Dracula.  In the post credits cutscene, Zobek tells Gabriel/Dracula that if they don't work together, Satan will enslave both of them.  And, I'm guessing that Zobek doesn't want to be enslaved. 

[Inccubus]

Aren't they both pretty much already serving the Devil just by being the evil bastards they are?

[X]

Satan is more powerful than Zobek and Dracula.

But in the CV universe, Dracula is the embodiment of all that is evil. Satan should not have been in there in the first place. But I guess they "needed" something different for LoS but i don't think they tried hard enough. Personally however instead of Satan (the Devil) I would've used one of the 'Old Ones' from the H. P. Lovecraft stories. Now those guys are way more bad@$$ then the Devil can ever be, and by far more of a significant threat to Dracula.

[Zetheraxza]

Satan did exist in the old timeline, but it was just 'symbolic' though. We had "Satan's Ring" in AoS. Satan is all about the "dirty work". You do something bad, it was in the goodwill of Satan because that's what Satan wants, like Dracula... As long as there is evil, Darkness like these corrupted souls will triumph. In the OT, one can consider that Dracula gets his powers from darkness which is Satan's domain and he uses his subjects to do evil for him. Wars, Rapes are done by humans though "Evil Thoughts" which is projected by Satan in most Abrahamic religions and that favors and strengthens Satan. Satan in my opinion in Castlevania probably favors Dracula, like Hades to Ares. Though Satan and Dracula probably never met, as long as you have beings like Dracula causing evil in the world, Satan is active and he can just lie back and relax.

In LoS, Satan probably decided to take matters in his own hands, and used his puppet for a while and then he reveals himself and this is what LoS is. It's the ultimate battle between good and evil. Now that Dracul is born, he probably fears that Satan may have control over his spirit like he did over Zobek because of his Dark Powers. But that's just a speculation.

[darkwzrd4]

Satan did exist in the old timeline, but it was just 'symbolic' though. We had "Satan's Ring" in AoS. Satan is all about the "dirty work". You do something bad, it was in the goodwill of Satan because that's what Satan wants, like Dracula... As long as there is evil, Darkness like these corrupted souls will triumph. In the OT, one can consider that Dracula gets his powers from darkness which is Satan's domain and he uses his subjects to do evil for him. Wars, Rapes are done by humans though "Evil Thoughts" which is projected by Satan in most Abrahamic religions and that favors and strengthens Satan. Satan in my opinion in Castlevania probably favors Dracula, like Hades to Ares. Though Satan and Dracula probably never met, as long as you have beings like Dracula causing evil in the world, Satan is active and he can just lie back and relax.

In LoS, Satan probably decided to take matters in his own hands, and used his puppet for a while and then he reveals himself and this is what LoS is. It's the ultimate battle between good and evil. Now that Dracul is born, he probably fears that Satan may have control over his spirit like he did over Zobek because of his Dark Powers. But that's just a speculation.

You got it wrong.  In LoS, Satan wants the God Mask for himself because it is believed to have contain some of God's power.  In other words, Satan wanted it to become more powerful so that he could face God and conquer Heaven.  He used Zobek and Gabriel as pawns by planted the plot into Zobek's mind and making him think that it was his own.  Once the pieces of the mask were put together and Gabriel was dead, Satan had no further use for Zobek and that's when he reveals himself and claims the mask.  What he didn't count on was Gabriel coming back to life and defeating him.
In the LoS timeline, Satan is the most powerful evil being.  The lords of shadow, the forgotten one, and now Gabriel/Dracula are still evil, but Satan is the at the top.  With "Good" there seems to be some sort of hierarchy.  There doesn't seem to be one with "Evil".  It's just a bunch of powerful evil beings with their own minions and torment innocent people independently of other powerful evil beings.  For example, the lords of shadow.  All three were evil, yet they each had their own domains and acted on their own.  They didn't answer to anyone what so ever.

[Ahasverus]

I can bet Zobek will be the last boss in LoS2 a la Lament of Innocence.

[TheouAegis]

Dracula isn't the embodiment of all that is evil; he was just a badass sorceror that got defeated then brought back to life (then defeated again). Galamoth or whatever was supposed to be more powerful than him until Dracula bested him in Kid Dracula.

[X]

Dracula WAS the embodiment of all that was evil in CV. He is the main classic villain of a classic series. Like Ganon is to the Zelda series and Bowser is to Super Mario Bros. It is only when IGA came along that things like Satan's ring (bringing in the existence of Satan)and Galamoth were introduced. But for me Dracula, the classic badass king of the Vampires will always be the main villain of the series and to the Belmonts. Others will come along but be nowhere near as classy.

[Flame]

Dont forget in DoS you go to Hell for the final area.

[Sumac]

Dracula WAS the embodiment of all that was evil in CV. He is the main classic villain of a classic series

Being the most renowned villaing in the series and being "embodiement of all that is evil" in the series storyline are very different things, not connected with each other.

[SiFi270]

In the main timeline, Chaos is the ultimate incarnation of evil, and people like Satan, Dracula and Ryukotsuki take turns in being its puppets. For some reason, Galamoth wants to be one too.

[A-Yty]

It is only when IGA came along that things like Satan's ring (bringing in the existence of Satan)and Galamoth were introduced.

..except that Galamoth had already been a villain in the series. And not just a boss like he was in SotN. The final boss.

Also, in DC, Dracula had "sold his body and soul to the devil".

Dracula has almost always been the main antagonist, but not the biggest bad.

[X]

In the main timeline, Chaos is the ultimate incarnation of evil, and people like Satan, Dracula and Ryukotsuki take turns in being its puppets.

Incorrect. Chaos isn't evil, it's just chaos. It's not good nor is it evil, it is simply a state of existence that which is the opposite of Order. While Order is logic, Chaos flies in the face of that logic on all levels, hence the name. It is never mentioned as being evil. It was simply an influential source in AoS. Evil only comes from those with the intention to act as such.