However, perhaps mistranslation presented it sacrificing a goat to a being called Azazel, which was seen as Satan. Ironically enough, Jewish mythology eventually decided to present it as a real being as well, somewhat of a demon.
Also, this:
Umineko - Goat servants & Beelzebub appears! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naRrZQvLWVo#)
When I read goat, I needed to share this lol
My personal favorite use of this trope was in Berserk with the Great Goat Head
Here's one depiction of him for illustration, spoiler'd because it's somewhat gory and some may find it unsettling.(click to show/hide)
I find the whole notion of Satan(ism) is just utter nonsense; An excuse by the early church to paint Pagan spirituality in a negative light so that Pauline Christianity could be seen as the one true faith. This is typical Roman imperialistic behavior that has unfortunately lasted roughly into our current century. Jesus never spoke of such a being because there never was one to begin with, let alone of hell (whom is actually the Nordic goddess of the frozen underworld), or of the fallen angel Lucifer because angels can't fall from grace as they are crafted out of God's pure and incorruptible love (ie they don't have human emotions, just love). He only spoke positive messages to the people's of Judea about an all-loving, merciful god. All the Dogma and talks of Satan are of the Roman mentality to promote fear into the populous. It is an underhanded tactic that is simply unexceptable in today's society; one of the earliest forms of terrorism. I will admit that it makes for great story-telling but that's all it's good for.
He looks so skinny, its he really powerful? Its only one or there exist more of them?
Please, be more careful to show your arguments without offending the religion of other people, since somebody feelings can be harmed without you noticing it. Im not saying it because of what you said, but how you said. Im not offended because I dont go to the church everyday or take religion as a very serious thing, but saying that some teachings are like terrorism or utter non-sense is a little harsh.
As I said, no harm done atleast with me, I like the idea of this topic and where we are going with it :P
Please, be more careful to show your arguments without offending the religion of other people, since somebody feelings can be harmed without you noticing it. Im not saying it because of what you said, but how you said. Im not offended because I dont go to the church everyday or take religion as a very serious thing, but saying that some teachings are like terrorism or utter non-sense is a little harsh.
As I said, no harm done atleast with me, I like the idea of this topic and where we are going with it :P
angels can't fall from grace as they are crafted out of God's pure and incorruptible love (ie they don't have human emotions, just love).
I can picture it. God, with his booming voice, tells an angel to destroy a whole city or kill newborns or whatnot. The angel looks shocked and start muttering to himself in a Michael Jackson -like soft voice. But he must obey, so he flies away.
What about all the times in the angels carry forth the will of their wrathful God? Were they just lamenting that their boss gave them violent tasks?
I can picture it. God, with his booming voice, tells an angel to destroy a whole city or kill newborns or whatnot. The angel looks shocked and start muttering to himself in a Michael Jackson -like soft voice. But he must obey, so he flies away.
Why is the Devil depicted with a goat's head?
X, I'm not completely sure what you're saying. I wasn't taking a jab at your faith or anything, if that is the impression you got. I just pointed out that angels are capable of emotions very different from love. Also, the cultural depiction of them has changed radically. The modern version is usually an attractive human with wings, clad in white and so on. Not sure where that style started, but angels were originally described as looking pretty damn scary and/or weird
If your point was that your personal belief is that angels have always been just full of love, that's cool. My point is, common mythology would disagree with that.
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Uhmm.... I like boobs.
Me too!! :D
Same here! :D
They also wore wigs to hide the fact that they had such disgusting hair due to not washing it. I'm sure you can imagine the load of dandruff and head lice crawling over their scalp :P Most likely to avoid this they cut all of their hair off their heads and put on wigs.
I find the whole notion of Satan(ism) is just utter nonsense; An excuse by the early church to paint Pagan spirituality in a negative light so that Pauline Christianity could be seen as the one true faith. This is typical Roman imperialistic behavior that has unfortunately lasted roughly into our current century. Jesus never spoke of such a being because there never was one to begin with, let alone of hell (whom is actually the Nordic goddess of the frozen underworld), or of the fallen angel Lucifer because angels can't fall from grace as they are crafted out of God's pure and incorruptible love (ie they don't have human emotions, just love). He only spoke positive messages to the people's of Judea about an all-loving, merciful god. All the Dogma and talks of Satan are of the Roman mentality to promote fear into the populous. It is an underhanded tactic that is simply unexceptable in today's society; one of the earliest forms of terrorism. I will admit that it makes for great story-telling but that's all it's good for.
Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them.
7 And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
8 And the Lord said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?
9 Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?
10 Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land.
11 But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face.
12 And the Lord said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the Lord.