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The Castlevania Dungeon Forums => General Castlevania Discussion => Topic started by: crisis on July 03, 2008, 03:50:08 AM
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So.... does anyone have any ideas on what Vlad was doing between 1094 & 1476?
How the hell did he manage to avoid the Belmonts for 300 years? The timeline that came with PoR says he's been absorbing the power from all of the slain vampires, but where was he at??
I don't think his Demon Castle existed yet, or maybe it was in the process of being forged?
We all know he went berserk after Lisa's death, but what could've been his motives 150 years before she was even born?
Maybe he was only 50% evil. Maybe Olrox was an ally of his!
Or he could be mentioned in a future title set during that time period. Or maybe he can be the protagonist in his own game (not to be confused with the Sorrow games)
What the hell were you up to Vlad!
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We don't know that he avoided the Belmonts for 300 years, only that IGA hasn't made a game that fits into that time frame yet.
I would like to see some gaiden games though and that might be the best period to explore that!
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he was............................ fishing.
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I bet he was partying all the time with lots of free blood and Succubitchez.
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I bet he was watching Spongebob. ;D
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He was in hibernation like Alucard did all the while aging and gettin stronger and plottin his plots to rule the world.
Thats the most likely case anything that comes about later in a game or is explained as havin happened as part of a game or somethin could be taken as a break or interruption from that sleep. =P
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After LoI he only hated God, he had nothing against humanity. So he made himself immortal to defy god. He gained power with age, as is common in most vampire folklore, and I guess killed other vampires? I don't recall seeing that anywhere. It was when Lisa was killed by humans (not god) that his vengeance against god spread to humanity. It says in the japanese Cv3 manual that he made a pact with an evil deity (most likely Chaos) he gave his soul, as well as his son Adrian's to the deity in return for ultimate power. And that is when he became the Dracula you see from Cv3 on.
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That explains it.
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>>I don't recall seeing that anywhere.
the 20th anniversary bonus thing had something about that i think
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In Reply To #9
I just checked it. It says that every time the Belmont's kill a vampire Dracula gets stronger... What? That has to be a translation error. It just makes no sense.
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Dracula has his crimson stone which absorbs vampire souls and turns them into power for him, like what he did to walter. i'd guess he either follows the belmonts or has death do it, collect the souls of killed vampires and offer to drac.
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In Reply To #11
Eh... it still doesn't make that much sense. Dracula following them around? Or even Death? LoI's ending lead me to believe he was keeping a low profile and hiding. And also we already know the translation was a little screwed up, they call Grant a pirate... which was completely made up in the american version of cv 3.
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it's known that the crimson stone is used to turn humans into vampires and to give vampires more power though.
and hell, i guess death doesn't even have to follow anyone. i mean, he's death. he is the last one everyone sees when he comes to collect their souls, belmonts included. he could've used some of those souls belonging to killed vampires to power mathias up.
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In Reply To #13
It just seems to be a significant reach... I would hope that he couldn't just send death out to get them. That's kinda lame...
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Well, I think that while Mathias/Dracula is "in hiding", he has Death capture the souls of vampires killed by vampire hunters and uses the crimson stone to become more powerful. Then again, this may only happen after Lisa is killed by humans.
I, too, would like to know what Mathias does for the next 380 or so years. All we know is that in that time period he falls in love with Lisa, fathers a child (Alucard), Lisa dies, and Drac (Mathias) begins to slaughter humans. Maybe, this will be explained in manga like some stuff for CoD will be this September, though it is unlikely.
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In Reply To #15
I, too, would like to know what Mathias does for the next 380 or so years. All we know is that in that time period he falls in love with Lisa, fathers a child (Alucard), Lisa dies, and Drac (Mathias) begins to slaughter humans.
all of that happens during the last few years before cv3. lisa dies in 1470, while young/teenage alucard is forced to watch her die. a bit later drac finds out, goes batshit insane and starts his war against humanity, and eventually in 1476 trevor and co manages to kill him for the first time.
Then again, this may only happen after Lisa is killed by humans.
by then drac starts his war and is killed off by trevor.
since then he only returns for few minutes every so often when someone resurrects him to have his ass handed to him by belmonts and die again.
plus the anniversary thing said that during the 300+ years he was amassing his powers probably to ascend from a vampire into the opposite of god, dark lord.
and then as far as i remember it added something about the souls of other vampires that were killed by belmonts being used to strengthen him.
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Curious if some abstracted a "puppet" version of Dracula's spirit. Some are known to be able to control others. (even non-living beings)
Still has me curious about Soma (and if he can possibly have kids?) Sure its the future, but there's still so many plotholes left open with 99' and more.
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Curious if some abstracted a "puppet" version of Dracula's spirit. Some are known to be able to control others. (even non-living beings)
Still has me curious about Soma (and if he can possibly have kids?) Sure its the future, but there's still so many plotholes left open with 99' and more.
Soma isn't drac's child. He is drac's reincarnation.
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Reincarnation yes, but hey who says this "neo drac" can't concieve kids? Just food for thought. =D
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Dracula was ... working for the Helsings for 300 years
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lol
no but seriously he was hard at work in his alchemy lab trying to cure himself of the herpigonosyphilades he contracted from those whore succubi.
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Reincarnation yes, but hey who says this "neo drac" can't concieve kids? Just food for thought. =D
I would laugh my head off if Soma eventually becomes the dark lord and then has a child with Mina. If that happens, I wouldn't be suprized if that child became like Alucard (a person who has to kill his/her father and ends up a emotionally distant individual who will possibly never know happiness). And don't say it can't happen. With IGA in charge of castlevania, anything could happen. I'm not saying it will happen, I'm just saying that it's possible. Trust me, I don't want that to happen. I would just find it funny (and disappointing).
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In Reply To #21
Indeed, thing is I get the bad feeling it will happen.
(oh and Obata is the character designer from now on, watch it happen)
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In Reply To #22
No, he'll go on to make a new short Manga/Anime series and forget about Castlevania. It'll be something sick and insane... and involving eating potato chips... very dramatically.
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In Reply To #23
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaoy1QKxGQs
I couldn't find a Japanese version. Sorry. :P
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In Reply To #15all of that happens during the last few years before cv3. lisa dies in 1470, while young/teenage alucard is forced to watch her die. a bit later drac finds out, goes batshit insane and starts his war against humanity, and eventually in 1476 trevor and co manages to kill him for the first time.
by then drac starts his war and is killed off by trevor.
Where does it say Lisa died in 1470?
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In Reply To #25
http://uk.geocities.com/nec43xkq3/cvsl.html
The translation given is:
"1470's: Lisa, Dracula's second wife, is condamned to death by the Inquisition (for being convicted to be a witch)."
However, if we want to try to fit Legends in (as I would like to), Lisa's death would probably have had to happen before 1450.
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In Reply To #25
http://uk.geocities.com/nec43xkq3/cvsl.html
The translation given is:
"1470's: Lisa, Dracula's second wife, is condamned to death by the Inquisition (for being convicted to be a witch)."
However, if we want to try to fit Legends in (as I would like to), Lisa's death would probably have had to happen before 1450.
That website left out Portrait of Ruin. Maybe it was compiled before that game was released. My only question is: How old was Alucard when Lisa died? Also, how old was she? Considering that this event affected Alucard so much and how young Lisa looked in Alucard's nightmare in SotN, I would think that Alucard was a teenager at the time. However, in the SotN manual, it is stated that Alucard is about 400 years old. Meaning that if Lisa was executed in 1470, Alucard would be at least 100 and Lisa would be dead from old age, that is unless Drac did something to give her an endless life span and eternal youth without taking her humanity. But that is unlikely. So, can someone explain this??