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Title: Alucard's Past
Post by: darkwzrd4 on July 21, 2008, 05:13:49 PM
What do we know about Alucard's past?  Well, we know his mother was executed as a witch, even though she wasn't one.  We also know that he allied himself with his father for some time.  Plus, he fought along side Trever Belmont and friends to defeat Drac in 1476, and in 1797, he saves Richter and defeats his father again.  Then in 2035 and 2036, he watches over Soma to make sure he doesn't become the next dark lord.  What I really would like to know is what his life was like before he met Trever Belmont.  And don't mention that he and Sonya are Trever's parents.  That game is no longer a part of the timeline.  Therefore, Sonya never existed.
Title: Re: Alucard's Past
Post by: Gimph on July 21, 2008, 05:17:19 PM
In Reply To #1

Does Kid Dracula count?
Title: Re: Alucard's Past
Post by: darkwzrd4 on July 21, 2008, 05:21:40 PM
In Reply To #1

Does Kid Dracula count?
It's not castlevania so no.  Besides, I believe it's about a child version of Drac, not Alucard.
Title: Re: Alucard's Past
Post by: Gimph on July 21, 2008, 05:27:34 PM
In Reply To #3


If you look up the description of the game in the Castlevania Dungeon "Games" section, it says it is Alucard, but I'm not entirely sure if it is or not.
Title: Re: Alucard's Past
Post by: darkwzrd4 on July 21, 2008, 05:31:37 PM
In Reply To #3


If you look up the description of the game in the Castlevania Dungeon "Games" section, it says it is Alucard, but I'm not entirely sure if it is or not.

The Castlevania Dungeon could be wrong.  Besides, that site is outdated.  It hasn't been updated in over a year.  I don't even use that site anymore.  If you look on the inverted castlevania dungeon, it says that "Kid Dracula" is a parody of Castlevania, so no it doesn't count because it is not a part of the offical timeline.
Title: Re: Alucard's Past
Post by: Azmodan on July 21, 2008, 05:42:14 PM
Kid Dracula is just a parody along the lines of Sexy Parodius. It's not meant to be taken seriously. Hell, is it even Alucard? I always understood him to be Dracula.
Title: Re: Alucard's Past
Post by: darkwzrd4 on July 21, 2008, 05:51:57 PM
Kid Dracula is just a parody along the lines of Sexy Parodius. It's not meant to be taken seriously. Hell, is it even Alucard? I always understood him to be Dracula.
Exactly, my point.  Thus, it doesn't count in regards to this topic.
Title: Re: Alucard's Past
Post by: crisis on July 21, 2008, 06:34:08 PM
Oh, it's Alucard alright. In his baby form.











But back to the topic at hand... the easy answer is Adrian was probably living the lifestyle a typical half human half vampire lives. It's been said that he was once evil like his father, but in the DXC version Death doesn't allude to anything like that, so is the original script still valid?


The way I understand Alucard... Adrian was raised under his father's tutelage, coming to build his powers (even though he was born with them). Lisa probably wasn't living with Dracula, because if she was, how the hell could that mob of people kidnap her without Dracula stopping them first?

Anyway Adrian was most likely still in contact with her. Somehowwww... the general populace were alerted to a 300 year old vampire that's been amassing all the powers of Hell without anyone knowing. Lisa, perhaps having atleast a little knowledge of magic due to having an extremely personal relationship with the Demon King, was killed and her husband was condemned.. that was when shit hit the fan and caused the rift between Adrian and his pops.

Immediately afterward Dracula wages war on humans, which causes Adrian to renounce his demonic heritage and switch his name to keep the promise to his mother. This is also when Hector "betrays" Dracula, Isaac flees, etc.



Then CVIII begins.
Title: Re: Alucard's Past
Post by: darkwzrd4 on July 21, 2008, 06:52:36 PM
Oh, it's Alucard alright. In his baby form.











But back to the topic at hand... the easy answer is Adrian was probably living the lifestyle a typical half human half vampire lives. It's been said that he was once evil like his father, but in the DXC version Death doesn't allude to anything like that, so is the original script still valid?


The way I understand Alucard... Adrian was raised under his father's tutelage, coming to build his powers (even though he was born with them). Lisa probably wasn't living with Dracula, because if she was, how the hell could that mob of people kidnap her without Dracula stopping them first?

Anyway Adrian was most likely still in contact with her. Somehowwww... the general populace were alerted to a 300 year old vampire that's been amassing all the powers of Hell without anyone knowing. Lisa, perhaps having atleast a little knowledge of magic due to having an extremely personal relationship with the Demon King, was killed and her husband was condemned.. that was when shit hit the fan and caused the rift between Adrian and his pops.

Immediately afterward Dracula wages war on humans, which causes Adrian to renounce his demonic heritage and switch his name to keep the promise to his mother. This is also when Hector "betrays" Dracula, Isaac flees, etc.



Then CVIII begins.  8)
That does sound plausable, but if Alucard was raised by his father, I don't think that he would have turned good.  Besides, he witnessed his mother's execution so I think that Drac and Lisa split up not long after Alucard's birth and Lisa raised Alucard on her own, but when she was executed Alucard sought out his father in order go get help with some revenge.  However, Alucard decides that revenge is not the right thing to do and abandons his father.  Hector probably leaves Drac's side not long after, if not before Alucard does.

I think that this is more likely, but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Alucard's Past
Post by: fallenangel86 on July 21, 2008, 09:08:59 PM
symphony explicitly states that alucard heard his mothers last words claiming not to hate humans/take revenge.
Title: Re: Alucard's Past
Post by: Efrit on July 21, 2008, 09:24:45 PM
Lisa was probally on a trip to help heal some people, and the Mob that was seeking her, caught her and killed her, I don't think She and Dracula split up, they probally lived together untill the fateful day.

~Efrit
Title: Re: Alucard's Past
Post by: darkwzrd4 on July 21, 2008, 10:18:10 PM
Lisa was probally on a trip to help heal some people, and the Mob that was seeking her, caught her and killed her, I don't think She and Dracula split up, they probally lived together untill the fateful day.

~Efrit
If that's the case, then why didn't Drac or one of his minions save her.  Besides in SotN,  when you beat Drac with Alucard, Drac asks what were Lisa's last words.  According to Alucard, her last words were: "do not hate humans.  If you do nothing, then at least do them no harm.  For their's is already a hard lot." and also that Lisa would love him for all eternity.  Which implies that Drac and Lisa had separated prior to her death.

As for Lisa's last request not to harm humans, I don't think Alucard would have honored that at first.  I mean he witnessed his mother's death and if I were him, I would probably have killed the humans who killed my mother or at least gone to my father for help with my revenge.
Title: Re: Alucard's Past
Post by: DragonSlayr81 on July 21, 2008, 10:51:06 PM
Wait? Was Lisa killed because she was married to Dracula? I always thought she was killed because she was practicing medicine, in which the villagers claimed to be witchcraft.
Title: Re: Alucard's Past
Post by: crisis on July 21, 2008, 11:04:24 PM
In Reply To #12
You think Alucard wouldn't honor his mother's last words? He's half human, he wouldn't kill any humans then all of a sudden 5 days later have a "change of heart".
Title: Re: Alucard's Past
Post by: Kale on July 22, 2008, 12:32:33 AM
In Reply To #13

That's what I think too. And I'll put it in a fanfic if I ever get it done >.> I could have sworn I read that she was burned for a witch, medicine or not, I don't know.
Title: Re: Alucard's Past
Post by: Long John Silver on July 22, 2008, 07:02:14 AM
In Reply To #14

humans have things called emotions though. they can, and often will take over your reason when you witness something traumatizing, be it sadness, helplessness, rage, anger, hate or such. al being half vampire also contributes to that.

alucard could've lost himself in hate too, but unlike drac who was a bitter 300+ year old vampire with his last shred of humanity lost when lisa died, al was still a teenager (supposedly) at that time, and was half human.

with time his emotional wound might have healed a bit, and he realised the error of his ways, thus leaving drac and betraying him.
Title: Re: Alucard's Past
Post by: A-Yty on July 22, 2008, 11:30:28 AM
As is the case with most CV characters, not much is known about his past. But he definitely was on his father's side for a while. Like Death says in SotN: "I'll not ask you to return to our side..".

Fanon: he hated the humans for many years after they executed his mother. Because of this, he accepted Dracula training him in the dark arts and intented to be on his side in the war that happened before the events of DC. But ultimately his mother's last words convinced him that killing the humans would be wrong and therefore he had to abandon his father.

This is how I explained his past in his character profile. I guess not all of it can be backed up with official information, but CV is pretty harsh when it comes to character bios.
Title: Re: Alucard's Past
Post by: darkwzrd4 on July 22, 2008, 03:47:30 PM
As is the case with most CV characters, not much is known about his past. But he definitely was on his father's side for a while. Like Death says in SotN: "I'll not ask you to return to our side..".

Fanon: he hated the humans for many years after they executed his mother. Because of this, he accepted Dracula training him in the dark arts and intented to be on his side in the war that happened before the events of DC. But ultimately his mother's last words convinced him that killing the humans would be wrong and therefore he had to abandon his father.

This is how I explained his past in his character profile. I guess not all of it can be backed up with official information, but CV is pretty harsh when it comes to character bios.
Then maybe someone should write a fan-fiction about the pasts of the characters.  It's better than nothing.
Title: Re: Alucard's Past
Post by: crisis on July 22, 2008, 03:55:37 PM
There's thousands of fan fics about the pasts of characters already.
Title: Re: Alucard's Past
Post by: darkwzrd4 on July 22, 2008, 04:07:54 PM
There's thousands of fan fics about the pasts of characters already.
Really?!  Where could I find them so I can read them.