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The Castlevania Dungeon Forums => General Castlevania Discussion => Topic started by: Bad Wolf on September 04, 2008, 12:19:00 PM
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What do you think? In most of the artwork, it's a leather whip. It sounds like a leather whip when you swing it, but when you flail it (most of the time), it sounds like a chain whip (if it sounds at all). In addition, starting with the Dracula X series, it has always been a chain whip in game in the 2D games (Castlevania Chronicles excluded) to my knowledge. In addition, in Lament, the icon for the VK is a morning star on the end of a chain, but it appears as a black whip in game.
So is it a leather whip or a chain whip?
Please disregard any game where you start with a leather whip but can upgrade it to a chain whip when posting your decision.
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The leather and chain are one in the same and neither at the same time ;)
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I think it has to do with animating it. I think they use they use leather now for the 3D games cause it's probably easier to animate it in 3D than a chain. And it's probably just easier to recognize and animate a chain whip in the 2D games as opposed to a leather whip.
I don't really know. I don't program and I haven't done extensive sprite work in years, and I'm not a professional, but that's always what I thought it was about.
But I think it's officially leather
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Metal would definitely work better against ten feet-high monsters. Well, I cannot really tell why, but for me it's made of metal.
@Bean:
You could be right there. Just look at cv4's different whips. Wich looks better? Leather or chain? :3
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Well, I don't know why they animate it the way they do, but I think a leather whip is better. After all, a leather whip would be lighter and easier for a person to swing. Besides, in actuality leather might be faster and speed could affect the amount of damage done.
To be honest, the appearance doesn't really matter as far as strength goes because it is a magical whip. Therefore, what it is made of is irrelevant. Leather whips look nicer too.
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Leather whips look nicer too.
Especially when it's moonstar form acts exactly like a whip when swung which is just weird.
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how about, it's a leather whip, that's at its most powerful when it transforms into chain form?
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In Reply To #7
Fine with me.
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Maybe two were actually made, and the Belmonts/Morris just choose whichever one they felt like grabbing that morning?
That way, they have another whip, juuuuust in case they lose the other.
:P
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In Reply To #1
The answer is clear and simple.
Iga's personal VK is leather as seen in interviews :P
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It's a chain says I. A leather one is easier to draw though so it gets shows as that a lot.
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I guess the Vampire Killer doesn't have an "official" design. The Castlevania team at Konami has had many different designers, illustrators etc so they've just went for the look they wanted for the moment without paying much attention to what it looked like in previous games.
Though since IGA has a real whip resembling the Vampire Killer and it's made of leather I assume the leather whip is what we should assume is the real thing.
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Look guys, the reason it went to a chain whip is because when Sara's soul saw Richter, excuse my language, but she shit a brick and transformed.
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how about, it's a leather whip, that's at its most powerful when it transforms into chain form?
Pretty much. That's just kinda how most of the games are. :P It's a short leather whip, then it upgrades to a longer leather whip, and then it upgrades to a chain whip with a morning star-like spiked ball at the end.
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i thought many games went leather>chain>long chain. morning star was mostly visible at the end of both chain whips.
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Maybe that's it O: but I was thinking CV4 where I believe it's leather->leather->chain. COULD BE WRONG THOUGH.
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In Reply To #16
What if it is a combination of them both? I think that the Vampire Killer was in the begining ment to be a leather whip, but that one of the artifacts in the "Whip of Alchemy" (aka The Vampire Killer) is the Crimson Stone, wich sort of answers the question about the chainsound.
But who knows. The Vampire Killer is probably just one of many secrets in Castlevania that we perhaps may never know...
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In Reply To #17
The Crimson Stone isn't one of the artifacts. What gives you that idea?
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In Reply To #16
it's leather, short chain, long chain.
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l think in the older games, the whip was the whip in its true form since it was normally depicted a frail in the opening of CV3. But I think once the graphics have improved like in Super CV, the whip is now leather.
It also was animated as a metal whip to show the gamer how better the weapon has become. I mean, I doubt in the cv mythos, alucard'z spear can level up like in the genesis cv game.
As others have already mentioned, the chain whip was probalby done to show how strong the whip have become. I mean, if Konami did leather whip-longer leather whip-flashing leather whip, it wouldnt be as impressive as goin from leather to chain.
With 3d graphics and the lost of upgrades, Konami has no reason to make it a frail unless it is the director's decision.
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In Reply To #20
Flail, not frail.
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In Reply To #18
Well, I did some research about the Vampire Killer and alchemy, and the Crimsom Stone sounded like it could be one of perhaps many artifacts. But I guess I was wrong. What different artifacts are involved in the making of the Alchemy Whip?
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In Reply To #1
"So is it a leather whip or a chain whip?"
The Vampire Killer is a creature of chaos; it may take many incarnations.
(Sorry, but someone had to say it.)
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It's a whip made out of leather chains. ::)
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Its made of those chains you make out of construction paper in elementary school around halloween.
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In Reply To #20
Flail, not frail.
You know, ppl love being corrected...
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but correcting people is oh-so-fun. :D
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Well, the chain could be another form like the element whips. Leather being the basic form.
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You know, ppl love being corrected...
So you would rather say the wrong thing continuously in the future?
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Personally, I find myself wondering whether a leather whip, all enchantments aside, wouldst be able to hold the weight of a fully grown man swinging under a chandelier. Then again, I also wonder how thick a chain whip must be in order to achieve the same effect...