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Title: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: Thomas Belmont on October 26, 2008, 08:00:49 PM
Anybody else not like Shanoa? She's just another generic, cliche' character. Her addition brought nothing new to the Castlevania universe. The game should have starred a Belmont.
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: paletteswapmonster on October 26, 2008, 08:08:07 PM
The game should have starred a Belmont.
Because that would totally have made sense. Shanoa's a fine character. I don't see anything wrong at all.
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: Rodriguezjr on October 26, 2008, 08:09:55 PM
I enjoyed playing as her and using the Glyph system.
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: Kamirine on October 26, 2008, 08:11:39 PM
TC, weren't you the same guy that made those sexist comments in the other thread that A N N T R A X had to shoot down? You kept whining about it starring a female?
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: Super Waffle on October 26, 2008, 08:34:05 PM
Her addition brought nothing new to the Castlevania universe.
Except for, y'know, the darkest ending in the entire series outside of the Julius route.
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: Long John Silver on October 26, 2008, 09:08:00 PM
she still added more than say, charlotte. :o
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: Kamirine on October 26, 2008, 09:24:49 PM
In Reply To #6
...The flea men add more than Charlotte. XD
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: crisis on October 26, 2008, 09:44:07 PM
It's cool to see Shanoa & her personality manifest in a time where the Belmonts are in limbo. In cv lore females usually take the 2nd or 3rd role, and most of the time used as sacrifice. However, THIS female actually fights back!


Sonia doesn't count :P
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: Shadowserg on October 27, 2008, 12:52:15 AM
Yeah.. I hate Shanoa too.  >:(
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: superDioplus on October 27, 2008, 01:12:40 AM
I wish theres a bad ending that Dracula drinks Shanoa's blood and she turns into a Succubus. I would be so in love with that.*__*
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: shelverton. on October 27, 2008, 03:12:39 AM
In Reply To #1

How is Shanoa more generic than Simon Belmont? Trevor? Richter? Juste? Julius? Leon? Or any of the other incredibly clich
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: darkwzrd4 on October 27, 2008, 06:53:46 AM
I wish theres a bad ending that Dracula drinks Shanoa's blood and she turns into a Succubus. I would be so in love with that.*__*
Dracula should do that in every game if you lose to him.
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: Algernon on October 27, 2008, 07:05:25 AM
...what?

You basically just said: "The first female protagonist in the series isn't bringing in anything new! They should have used the same characters they've used every time before!"

Explain to me how that makes sense.

Also explain to me how Shanoa isn't bringing anything new to the series. For one, she's a girl, which is a first for the series. Her emotions were absorbed into Dominus, so he's pretty unexpressive, another unusual thing in female game characters (especially compared to Charlotte). She also has an incredibly dark ending, which suited the series much better than the "Saturday morning cartoon" endings of Pork.

Lordy.
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: Long John Silver on October 27, 2008, 07:30:50 AM
i guess in his mind if a female character isn't useless like charlotte or just a background character like julia it's automatically a bad character. :o
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: erimocard on October 27, 2008, 08:14:49 AM
Yeah, right. I hate her, because she brings in nothing new. They should have taken the same characters like in the past games. H
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: le052383 on October 27, 2008, 12:03:01 PM
In Reply To #1

How is Shanoa more generic than Simon Belmont? Trevor? Richter? Juste? Julius? Leon? Or any of the other incredibly clich
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: le052383 on October 27, 2008, 12:21:29 PM
"The first female protagonist in the series isn't bringing in anything new! They should have used the same characters they've used every time before!"

You high or somethin'?  You are entitled to your opinion but mentionin somethin that is not true is another. 

Other than what was mentioned on this forum, Shanoa is anything but generic!!  Tell me another person in the CV game who's MP gets drained whenever she/he does a normal weapon attack? 

Also, the story is something that is different when the previous titles have been somethin like "Main character's gf is kidnapped by Dracula, resulting in him going to drac's castle.

*Spoiler*
Surely a plot involving a hot soceress whose "sibling" went out to make himself a badguy so he can save her life is not new?  IT is better than havin the rival character being under the infulence of Drac.

Even his relationship to Shaona is different as oppose to any cliche storylines out there.

*end spoilers*

Hell, neither characters use a whip or the cross and some of the things they do use are things we haven't seen in Castlevania before. 
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: Omegasigma on October 27, 2008, 12:48:39 PM
from playing the game it felt like a female soma, replace word glyph with soul, and add a castlevania 2 type world, but it was an ok game overall tho, and it was fine to see new dialog from drac interacting with a female for once
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: azielsatori on October 27, 2008, 01:22:04 PM
I found the way Dracula proprositioned her amusing, it was like it was normal to him to have strange women fight their way through the castle for him.
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: paletteswapmonster on October 27, 2008, 01:26:32 PM
In Reply To #18

The glyph system is barely anything like the soul system at all.
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: Kamirine on October 27, 2008, 01:39:15 PM
I found the way Dracula proprositioned her amusing, it was like it was normal to him to have strange women fight their way through the castle for him.

LMFAO, I loved that. When she loses, they should have shown him biting her and her turning into a vamp.
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: RichterX on October 27, 2008, 08:36:25 PM
God Erimo that was an amazing post, I have to praise you just for that. Shanoa was a fine character, did I wish she had more emotion maybe, but that smiling with tears would of been useless without her not having any.

Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: Belm0nt on October 27, 2008, 10:37:20 PM
In Reply To #7

lol, that's awesome.....

Seriously though, Shanoa has been one of the most fun Castlevania characters to come along in awhile....
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: uzo on October 28, 2008, 02:10:51 AM
In Reply To #1

Sounds like someone is gay.
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: silvermoonlight on October 28, 2008, 07:52:28 AM
she still added more than say, charlotte. :o

 I so agree. Shanoa is quite possibly my favorite video game heroine. She's a girl who can kick butt in her own right, not be a totally useless sidekick like Charlotte.
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: DoctaMario on October 28, 2008, 08:19:27 AM
In Reply To #19

Well, his wife's dead so you can't hate him for trying to pimp his shit!  ;) :P
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: paletteswapmonster on October 28, 2008, 12:40:57 PM
In Reply To #24

Sexist, rather.
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: erimocard on October 28, 2008, 03:16:17 PM
In Reply To #25

SAMUS :O :O :O :O
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: Kale on October 28, 2008, 04:02:54 PM
In Reply To #27

Simon Belmont disagreeing with himself?!

>.> Sexist indeed.
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: silvermoonlight on October 28, 2008, 05:23:29 PM
In Reply To #28

Yes more than Samus :o
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: Bafeel on October 28, 2008, 06:17:45 PM
In Reply To #27

Meh, sexism can be linked to homosexuality. Even if he isn't gay, he'll have a hard time finding a woman in the 21st century willing to put up with someone like him.

On topic: Shanoa's pretty much different than any other Castlevania protagonist. I fail to see how she doesn't add anything to the series.
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: Clara E. Leet on October 28, 2008, 07:33:08 PM
Considering Thomas Belmont hasn't posted since he's made this thread, I'm half-tempted to consider this entire thread troll-bait and tell all of you to post in the Spoiler/Non Spoiler OoE threads.

We didn't need fifteen million discussion threads over Shanoa and the game before it was out, and we certainly don't need them now that game is out.
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: Algernon on October 28, 2008, 07:54:33 PM
Samus > Shanoa

Sorry kiddies, Shanoa didn't annihilate an entire planet full of alien scum.

But Shanoa is indeed kickass. 
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: Holycross on October 28, 2008, 08:25:58 PM
 8)Shanoa is indeed a kickass girl but not like Zss =D
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: Thomas Belmont on October 28, 2008, 11:32:04 PM
It's cool to see Shanoa & her personality manifest in a time where the Belmonts are in limbo. In cv lore females usually take the 2nd or 3rd role, and most of the time used as sacrifice. However, THIS female actually fights back!


Sonia doesn't count :P



Wtf are you talking about? She had no personality.











...what?

You basically just said: "The first female protagonist in the series isn't bringing in anything new! They should have used the same characters they've used every time before!"

Explain to me how that makes sense.

Also explain to me how Shanoa isn't bringing anything new to the series. For one, she's a girl, which is a first for the series. Her emotions were absorbed into Dominus, so he's pretty unexpressive, another unusual thing in female game characters (especially compared to Charlotte). She also has an incredibly dark ending, which suited the series much better than the "Saturday morning cartoon" endings of Pork.

Lordy.



Omg! Her being a female brought so much new to the series! ::)




i guess in his mind if a female character isn't useless like charlotte or just a background character like julia it's automatically a bad character. :o

That's right. There is no reason for a female protagonist
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: azielsatori on October 29, 2008, 01:08:21 AM
Whatever would you do without muscle bound leather wearing men with whips?

Well like Darwin used to say, "Thank god you won't be reproducing. :D"



Historical Fact: Darwin used smilies. Sometimes he threw in a ":3" too.
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: Thomas Belmont on October 29, 2008, 09:26:11 AM
Whatever would you do without muscle bound leather wearing men with whips?

Well like Darwin used to say, "Thank god you won't be reproducing. :D"



Historical Fact: Darwin used smilies. Sometimes he threw in a ":3" too.



You're a fucking moron and a drama queen. You hope I can't reproduce because I don't like a video game character? Drop dead.
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: Algernon on October 29, 2008, 09:39:26 AM


You're a fucking moron and a drama queen. You hope I can't reproduce because I don't like a video game character? Drop dead.
I HAVE to point out the irony of calling Aziela a drama queen with a reply like that. The only one who is dramatizing the situation right now is you.

Quote
Omg! Her being a female brought so much new to the series!
...ummm... please go back and read my post. I said so much more than that.
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: le052383 on October 29, 2008, 09:44:28 AM


You're a fucking moron and a drama queen. You hope I can't reproduce because I don't like a video game character? Drop dead.

I can't speak for all of us, but the majority here thinks there is nothin wrong with Shanoa bein a chick and that you ahve a problem with strong female main characters

I mean why do you want a Belmont guy over Shaona? Does it make a difference if Iga put a Belmont in the game with no whip and plays like Shaona in every ascept?
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: crisis on October 29, 2008, 09:46:22 AM
In Reply To #35

Sure she had personality. She wasn't like happy-go-lucky Charlotte, and not so inquisitive like Maria. She was detached, but she lost her memories. In fact, I'd say she had more personality than Juste.
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: le052383 on October 29, 2008, 09:48:13 AM
I find it funny you argue that Shanoa has no personality yet she has more dialogue than Simon in all the games he has been involved in.

Simon, Christopher, Sonia, Juste, and Desmon
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: shelverton. on October 29, 2008, 10:33:08 AM

Thomas feels that if Shanoa's sprite was altered and turned into a male Belmont, he would be totally cool with it! But now Thomas is afraid of what the other boys in school might say if they caught him playing a game with a girl as the lead!  :o Thomas and his friends feel that such games may very well turn them into girls. Or even gays!

;D
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: erimocard on October 29, 2008, 11:38:30 AM
Dude, you are a misogyne idiot, not even able to argue. Why do you bother posting anyway? Every post you write makes you seem dumber. Then go ahead, explain why Shanoa has no personality and why a female character is that bad for the game. I'm excited about that.

 :)
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on October 29, 2008, 11:53:49 AM
In Reply To #37

There's no need for that language.  You did bring it upon yourself to get such replies with such an inflammatory thread.  What, did you think people would agree with you?  You must have been expecting at least a little backlash.

You've been warned.

As for everyone else:  Congratulations for (more or less) feeding the Trolls.  I'm going to keep the thread open, but if it continues to spiral down as it has, I will close it.
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: le052383 on October 29, 2008, 12:01:51 PM
Thomas feels that if Shanoa's sprite was altered and turned into a male Belmont, he would be totally cool with it! But now Thomas is afraid of what the other boys in school might say if they caught him playing a game with a girl as the lead!
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: le052383 on October 29, 2008, 12:03:57 PM
WAsn't Thomas the guy who said that the game would be better if Albus was the lead?
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on October 29, 2008, 12:08:07 PM
In Reply To #46
Dammit Le!  Stop fanning the flames, lawlz. :P

Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: le052383 on October 29, 2008, 12:10:38 PM
Okay, I will stop.  Sorry, but sometimes I find it fun to post in these types of threads.

Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: DoctaMario on October 29, 2008, 02:05:20 PM
C'mon guys, this is a Thomas Belmont thread. It has troll written all over it.  ;)
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: uzo on October 29, 2008, 06:35:35 PM
BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: MOSH42393 on October 29, 2008, 08:53:55 PM
honestly i see nothing wrong with shanoa it is a different step in the CV series but i will have to say i am looking forward to a game with another belmont. i havent seen a new belmont since juste. but hey. dot rag on shanoa she is still a good character.
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: Long John Silver on October 29, 2008, 09:01:14 PM
just ignore that guy, he's still a kid, or at least behaves like a spoiled underage brat. and makes a mockery of himself in the process. :o
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: azielsatori on October 29, 2008, 09:38:58 PM
Sexuality is such a touchy subject :<
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: Thomas Belmont on October 30, 2008, 12:13:30 PM







Thomas feels that if Shanoa's sprite was altered and turned into a male Belmont, he would be totally cool with it! But now Thomas is afraid of what the other boys in school might say if they caught him playing a game with a girl as the lead!  :o Thomas and his friends feel that such games may very well turn them into girls. Or even gays!

;D


Don't act like you fucking know me or my friends. Also, I'm no little kid. I haven't been in school now for years. I may actually be one of the oldest member of this thread.



Dude, you are a misogyne idiot, not even able to argue. Why do you bother posting anyway? Every post you write makes you seem dumber. Then go ahead, explain why Shanoa has no personality and why a female character is that bad for the game. I'm excited about that.

 :)


Hey, moron. You're calling me dumb? It's misogynist, not "misogyne." And "dumber" isn't even a word you schmuck. It's "more dumb."











In Reply To #37

There's no need for that language.  You did bring it upon yourself to get such replies with such an inflammatory thread.  What, did you think people would agree with you?  You must have been expecting at least a little backlash.

You've been warned.

As for everyone else:  Congratulations for (more or less) feeding the Trolls.  I'm going to keep the thread open, but if it continues to spiral down as it has, I will close it.



So stating a dislike for a video game character warrants personal attacks? Get your priorities straight.











he does sound like as though he is hittin puberty and discorverin that his fellow guy friends are easy in the eyes.  lol  ;D




If that was true, I bet that would excite you. Anyway, I think most of you have me all wrong. I think it's great that women are main protagonists in games. For example: Barbie games, Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen games, Cooking Mama, etc. Lol!







Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: le052383 on October 30, 2008, 12:59:15 PM







Don't act like you fucking know me or my friends. Also, I'm no little kid. I haven't been in school now for years. I may actually be one of the oldest member of this thread.
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: azielsatori on October 30, 2008, 01:37:01 PM
"Dumber" is the correct term, "more dumb" is incorrect.

This has been a public service announcement.
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: Long John Silver on October 30, 2008, 01:43:48 PM
Quote
Also, I'm no little kid. I haven't been in school now for years. I may actually be one of the oldest member of this thread.
you certainly behave like one. ;D
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: paletteswapmonster on October 30, 2008, 02:10:12 PM
i havent seen a new belmont since juste.
Julius? Leon?
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: uzo on October 30, 2008, 02:58:52 PM
(http://www.dimondsoft.com/hotlink/1218731897481.jpg)
I HAVEN'T BEEN IN SCHOOL FOR YEARS

That's generally what happens when you drop out. Loser.
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: Algernon on October 30, 2008, 03:02:41 PM
Is it really worth all this? He clearly has no argument and he's just getting upset (but in a mature way, of course).

Although, if he REALLY wasn't a little kid, he'd just turn his back on this thread and let it cool off.
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: Kale on October 30, 2008, 04:51:08 PM
So stating a dislike for a video game character warrants personal attacks? Get your priorities straight.

You're more trolling than just stating an opinion.

but man, when did this get so long?
Title: Re: Can't stand Shanoa
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on October 30, 2008, 05:10:01 PM
So stating a dislike for a video game character warrants personal attacks? Get your priorities straight.

You know what, you're absolutely right.