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The Castlevania Dungeon Forums => General Castlevania Discussion => Topic started by: Rictrunks on September 12, 2007, 01:21:11 PM
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Their art synthesis deduces a wonderful taste.
I hope they'll work for next two Castlevania.
If you want to see Yamane's music and Kojima's artwork combination, let's watch the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGv4Ws2DTdM
I watch this everyday.
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I'm really not a fan of Kojima's work. Sometimes she does wonderful illustrations, other times they're terribly bad (like for Aria of Sorrow). I'm just sick of seeing her art all the time. I wish they'd get other artists, like Akihiro Yamada again. He did the art for the SNES Dracula X.
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwhooties.homestead.com%2Ffiles%2Fdraculaxx.jpg&hash=ccd382acf02588fb21794eb0ae0d0b7175ab61ee)
Isn't that wonderful?
I also enjoy the art for Circle of the Moon and wish they'd get that artist again. I just want things to be changed up, you know? Like they used to be.
...Of course, that also applies to the games themselves. :P I'm sick of Igarashi and his games. It's my opinion that he's honestly never made a GREAT game. Being assistant director on SOTN (which is a fantastic game) doesn't count for much.
Also, Yamane seems to be getting a little stale. I much prefer her music for Bloodlines and SOTN to all the more recent stuff she's done. Still good music, but just...I dunno, recycled and bland.
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Dracula looks fine here on that image, but Richter's face looks retarded. And why is he blonde?
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Hey,i like Kojima's art work and art work of aria of sorrow is beautiful.I like it very much.What Ayami need's is to refresh her self and come up with new ideas.She just have stuck with one style.She need's to find more styles and then we will enjoy her creations once again.Her work on Dracula X Chronicles isn't that bad at all.
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It's funny how some people complain about Kojima's style, then when Konami switches it up in the case of PoR, AoS, CotM, etc. those people want Kojima's style back. It's like a dog chasing its tail, It's never gonna end.
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I like Kojima's style a lot, except for the tiny head syndrome some of her works seem to have (especially in CoD).
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How about..... Kojima and Ayame team up! like one makes it and thhen the other add their style to it.
Like Ayame makes a blonde with anime clothing, then Kojima makes it look realistic.... or vice versa or soemthing. I always like changes. I mean, have you ever looked at Sonic the Hedgehog? Then search for a human version of him? I'd almost turn gay for it >.> but I won't.
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Like old Igavanias: Kojima + Amane = Win!
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It's funny how some people complain about Kojima's style, then when Konami switches it up in the case of PoR, AoS, CotM, etc. those people want Kojima's style back. It's like a dog chasing its tail, It's never gonna end.
I dunno if you're just saying that generally, or trying to gear it towards me since I'm the only one who's really complained about Kojima's art so far. If the latter's the case, I never even said anything of the such. :o I just want new blood, or old blood. Like I said, COTM's art is great. The anime stylings of DOS is ass, but POR looks a bit better. Overall, though, the anime look has never befitted Castlevania, not even in Rondo of Blood. Doesn't help that all anime-styled artwork for Castlevania over the years has been done poorly.
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He did the art for the SNES Dracula X.
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwhooties.homestead.com%2Ffiles%2Fdraculaxx.jpg&hash=ccd382acf02588fb21794eb0ae0d0b7175ab61ee)
Isn't that wonderful?
Sure, but that's not the SNES Dracula X...I'm not up on my artists, did he do the PC-E artwork as well?
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I think the Kojima + Ayame style works out well for the Castlevania series as it stands. They're probably one of the few things that keeps me coming back for more with the recent trend of Iga games.
If you were going to change those two up, I'd think you'd need to change out Iga as well and develop an entirely new system to go along with the change. But that could just be me?
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In Reply To #10
Ed - I'm sorry to say but that sorta is the snes Dracula X artwork, just not the US version, it's actually Vampires Kiss the European name for the game.
See -->(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.artdujeu.com%2Fphpbuns%2Fjeu%2Fupload%2F5849.jpg&hash=982e494b85f992964874a34a352e778b9422d4cc)
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Both the Japanese and European versions of Dracula XX featured the artwork seen above. The American version just reused the artwork from Rondo.
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Uhm..CotM artwork...is from the same artist of Vampire Kiss?
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Uhm..CotM artwork...is from the same artist of Vampire Kiss?
Nope. I'm not sure who did COTM's art, I just like it.
Also, I keep seeing "Ayame" in this thread. I'm so confused. Who's Ayame? :P There's an Ayami Kojima, and a Michiru Yamane. Akihiro Yamada was also mentioned. Nope, no Ayames here. o.o
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I wasn't gearing that comment towards you, but at others that I've always seen complain about such trivialities. I love CotM's art too (especially the Japanese game cover), but I'm betting that if they woulda stuck with that artist up until now most people would've been praying for Kojima to return. just my opinion..
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That youtube vid IS great isn't it.
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In Reply To #5
It's even funnier when someone assumes the CV fanbase is one single entity.
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In Reply To #18
Whether people like the anime look or people like the more realistic look, I think it's a fair assessment to say that we all agree on the following:
Having seen the artwork for Order of Shadows, ANYTHING made by Kojima, the previous CV artists,or the Anime crew would be superior.
END of broad generalization.
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Kojima seems kind of lazy. Hector has a tiny head in the CoD illustrations and now Annette in DXC has a neck that would make a giraffe envious.
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Well... its either Ayame from Tenchu orosmething or it means both artists. There is also the possibility of a spelling error.
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In Reply To #19
Sprite artwork? I'd have to agree. But, I wouldn't say it's fair to judge it on overall art designs. I don't think any official concept art has been released regarding Order of Shadows, and if it has, I'd love someone to point me to it.
But yeah, in the art department, I'd have to say that Resurrection had the worse art of all the series. ALL the series.
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In Reply To #22
http://konamimobile.com/img/dc_Castlevania_OOS_Blog2_Image4.jpg
http://konamimobile.com/img/dc_Castlevania_OOS_Blog2_Image5.jpg
Edit: Er shit, the page's down. Well, once it's back open them. :P
Edit2: Ok, it seems they actually deleted those. Anyone saved them and could upload them to somewhere?
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A lot of the art here is pretty badass as well:
http://www.konami.jp/gs/game/dracula_ds2/galleryof/index.html
They should have one o' those artists do the official art sumtime...
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In Reply To #2
Never seen that pic before. That's pretty sweet.
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I like Kojima's style a lot, except for the tiny head syndrome some of her works seem to have (especially in CoD).
Yeah, she still has some kinks to work out in her style, but overall she's a master at her element.
The worst pic, I think, is still Lydie of HOD's manual. Head way too small. Picture just irks me.
I'm kind paranoid about doing this in my own work, so I usually make a slighly larger head than normal just to make sure I don't.
A larger head looks better than a smaller one, IMO -- especially on women.
You might also notice how long she makes her legs (too long), but that might be more an influence from anime.
Best pic is still Leon on LOI boxart -- GODDAMN it's beautiful!
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In Reply To #23
Okay, the designs are back and I can see them. Yeah, they are pretty bad. Very Photoshop-esque. Kinda like stuff you'd find from a very unskilled artist on DeviantArt. Still, I find it hard to say Resurrection's art is superior. Maybe on par with. Both are crap, really. Like I tend to say, sometimes you can't choose between two bad things. It's like, would you rather like to eat a freshly squeezed turd or drink a cup of diarrhea? Either way, you aren't going to change the fact that both are shit. Same with OoS and Resurrection's art.
But yeah, Desmond would've looked better without the goatee(urgh, one of the reasons Victor looked terrible). The girls don't look bad, costume-wise. Dracula looks, well, silly.