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Title: Theory about Schneiders/Morris/Lecardes
Post by: Reinhart77 on December 07, 2008, 06:41:49 AM
Ok, here's a new theory I have about the offshoot Belmont clans.

What if the whip first went to the Schneider family (Michael and Reinhardt), an offshoot of the Belmont Clan, as soon as the whip was found after Order of Ecclesia and the Schneider family was able to use the whip whenever they felt like it (they'd still be under the life-draining part though, Michael did die young for one thing, and we don't know how long Reinhardt lived).  Then Reinhardt and Rosa had daughters (probably twins) in around 1853.  One of them married a member of the Morris clan and another married a member of the Lecarde clan.  These daughters then have a son around 1873.  Quincy Morris was one of the sons and Eric Lecarde's father was he other one.  Some kind of ritual could have taken place around the birth of these sons (or later) that would bind them together along with a contract with the whip and cause only the Morris Clan to be able to use the whip, but only the Lecarde Clan would be able to unlock the whip's full power.  The Alucard Spear would have been created at the same time.  Quincy and his cousin would have enough time to grow up to fight Dracula in the year 1897. 

Anyways, just a thought. 
Title: Re: Theory about Schneiders/Morris/Lecardes
Post by: darkwzrd4 on December 07, 2008, 02:44:38 PM
Ok, here's a new theory I have about the offshoot Belmont clans.

What if the whip first went to the Schneider family (Michael and Reinhardt), an offshoot of the Belmont Clan, as soon as the whip was found after Order of Ecclesia and the Schneider family was able to use the whip whenever they felt like it (they'd still be under the life-draining part though, Michael did die young for one thing, and we don't know how long Reinhardt lived).
Title: Re: Theory about Schneiders/Morris/Lecardes
Post by: snakes3425 on December 09, 2008, 10:37:19 PM
Coincidentally in the novel Dracula, Dracula is killed by both Johnathan Harker and Quincy Morris.
Title: Re: Theory about Schneiders/Morris/Lecardes
Post by: Battler Ushiromiya on December 09, 2008, 10:43:08 PM
Which raises the question: What the hell happened to the Harker family?
Title: Re: Theory about Schneiders/Morris/Lecardes
Post by: GrantDaMummy on December 10, 2008, 03:46:49 AM
In Reply To #4

For that matter, Quincy doesn't even use a whip or wooden stake in the novel. He stabs Dracula with the almighty bowie knife.

Paradoxally we learn earlier in the novel that only a wooden stake, sacred bullet, holy water, or decapitation would kill/injure a vampire.

Using the books own rules, only Harker's slicing off Dracula's head with his Kukri knife would have actually counted. Note, it probably should be mentioned that the novel only implies that Jonathan cut off Dracula's head, it only talks about jonathan's knife cutting into Dracula's throat. So the implication is in the imagery, and based on facts established in an earlier chapter.

Castlevania obviously takes its own direction with the story.
Title: Re: Theory about Schneiders/Morris/Lecardes
Post by: actionfence on December 24, 2008, 01:46:00 AM
As for the Harker family, I like to think that they moved to Japan at some point and that is where Mina Hakuba came from.

For Quincy, I don't think he ever had the whip, but I do believe that the "Bowie Knife" is actually the Holy Dagger that the Belmonts use...

Just to keep the CV in canon with Dracula.
I know Dracula came first.
Title: Re: Theory about Schneiders/Morris/Lecardes
Post by: crisis on December 24, 2008, 04:29:05 AM
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For Quincy, I don't think he ever had the whip, but I do believe that the "Bowie Knife" is actually the Holy Dagger that the Belmonts use...

I think Quincy had to have used Vampire Killer, how else would his son John had possession?

Also, plz correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Q-dawg die upon defeating Dracula? We know the Holy Whip consumes the life energy of non-pure-blooded Belmonts, so that could've been the reason (as opposed to Dracula inflicting fatal wounds)
Title: Re: Theory about Schneiders/Morris/Lecardes
Post by: The Last Belmont on December 24, 2008, 07:17:31 AM
For Quincy, I don't think he ever had the whip, but I do believe that the "Bowie Knife" is actually the Holy Dagger that the Belmonts use...

That's a cool theory, I like it. I like to think that he didn't know how to unlock the whips power and John was the one who figured it out.

If you play Judgment, during Eric's story in the battle again Alucard, it is stated the Alucard gave the Alucard Spear to the Lecarde family.

Yeah but that doesn't really tie them to the belmonts by blood or anything, I always thought he was  descendant of the belnades/fernandez clan since he was from spain and his clan was given the spear because they had no main holy weapon to use against the dracula's army besides magic spells.
Title: Re: Theory about Schneiders/Morris/Lecardes
Post by: Long John Silver on December 24, 2008, 08:57:10 AM
In Reply To #8

yeah, but as far as i remember there's the part in judgement about eric being jealous that it wasn't him that got the whip. he'd have to be partially belmont to be even able to use it.
Title: Re: Theory about Schneiders/Morris/Lecardes
Post by: actionfence on December 24, 2008, 04:34:32 PM
I always thought that Eric Lecarde was descendant of the Renards...  Not really sure where I came up with that, but it has been my theory for quite some time now.

And that being said, that Maria is descendant of the Belmonts it does make since that he would still be considered Belmont descendant.  He also seems surprised when facing Maria when playing in Story mode.
Title: Re: Theory about Schneiders/Morris/Lecardes
Post by: The Last Belmont on December 27, 2008, 06:48:43 AM
I always thought that Eric Lecarde was descendant of the Renards...