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Title: Hmmm I think Konami misnamed one of their own music names.
Post by: ReyVGM on December 10, 2008, 07:51:21 PM
I doubt anyone would care but...

I'm updating my Castlevania music FAQ and I noticed something about the Haunted Castle's music titles.

I think Konami made a mistake naming the Stage 4 and 5 songs. Let me explain: Stage 4 is an underground type level, yet the song title is called "Clocktower's Beat" (at least according to official soundtracks), Stage 5 is a clocktower type level yet the song title is called "Basement Melody".

I thought that maybe Kurt had mistitled the songs on the soundtrack page, but I then noticed that Dawn of Sorrow features the Stage 5 song under the name Underground Melodies. So either Konami made a mistake and never noticed this or they noticed it and decided not to fix it for Dawn of Sorrow, problem is there's nothing of 'underground' where that song takes place in Haunted Castle :(

I didn't think a company could make a mistake like that until I saw on Super Smash Bros. Melee that Nintendo had misnamed that Star Fox tracks.
The track called "Corneria" is actually from the SNES Star Fox's Venom level and the track named "Venom" is actually from the N64 Star Fox 64's Corneria stage.
Title: Re: Hmmm I think Konami misnamed one of their own music names.
Post by: Super Waffle on December 10, 2008, 09:21:39 PM
Konami's sound department is pretty bad with this.
Title: Re: Hmmm I think Konami misnamed one of their own music names.
Post by: ReyVGM on December 11, 2008, 12:23:31 AM
YES! Thank you.
I always thought I was misinterpreting the whole Opus 13/ Slash naming.
Title: Re: Hmmm I think Konami misnamed one of their own music names.
Post by: Koutei on December 11, 2008, 03:35:49 AM
Haunted Castle's music titles

Stage4 : Underground Melodies
Stage5 : Horror of clock tower (My translation)

DOS is a mistake.
It is perhaps because two music was connected.
In Haunted Castle's sound track CD.
Title: Re: Hmmm I think Konami misnamed one of their own music names.
Post by: darkwzrd4 on December 11, 2008, 05:20:00 AM
In OoE, in the sound test the titles of the prologue and for the Ecclesia area seem to have there titles switched.
Title: Re: Hmmm I think Konami misnamed one of their own music names.
Post by: Azmodan on December 11, 2008, 05:22:19 AM
Yeah, they always seem to fudge up the titles somehow.

In the Rondo/Bloodlines OST, Opus 13 and Slash are switched. In the CotM/HoD OST, Aqueduct of Dragons and Skeleton Den are switched.
Title: Re: Hmmm I think Konami misnamed one of their own music names.
Post by: Super Waffle on December 11, 2008, 12:35:59 PM
While on the subject, would anybody care to explain why Julius' Aria theme is called "Heart of Fire" when the arrangement uses more of "Don't Wait Until Night" from Haunted Castle than it does the original CV "Heart of Fire" ?
Title: Re: Hmmm I think Konami misnamed one of their own music names.
Post by: ReyVGM on December 11, 2008, 01:16:20 PM
Haunted Castle's music titles

Stage4 : Underground Melodies
Stage5 : Horror of clock tower (My translation)

DOS is a mistake.
It is perhaps because two music was connected.
In Haunted Castle's sound track CD.

Actually, the music was connected in "Konami Game Music Collection Volume 1" and they are correct there. The track is called "Basement Melody - Clocktower's Beat" and the song plays in that same order (stage 4 then stage 5). So it's correct there.

It was on the Haunted Castle soundtrack CD that the titles were named wrong and now Dawn of Sorrow used the wrong name too!

If you know Japanese, can you translate the song names as accuretely as possible for me?
The ones on these two soundtracks:
http://www.vgmuseum.com/mrp/series/soundtrack-adbest2r.htm (Just the Akumajo Dracula Super Famicom ones)

http://www.vgmuseum.com/mrp/series/soundtrack-kgmcvol1.htm
(Just the Haunted Castle ones)


Thanks for the help :)
Title: Re: Hmmm I think Konami misnamed one of their own music names.
Post by: Xain on December 11, 2008, 01:54:09 PM
While on the subject, would anybody care to explain why Julius' Aria theme is called "Heart of Fire" when the arrangement uses more of "Don't Wait Until Night" from Haunted Castle than it does the original CV "Heart of Fire" ?

Maybe the Haunted Castle title was too long for the display name in aria's sound check? that's the only guess i can make. My other suggestion is so absurd that i rather not mention it...but i will anyway.

Maybe because Heart of Fire is the more recognizable song? Can't say i knew where the other part came from since i don't any of the music from Haunted Castle. 
Title: Re: Hmmm I think Konami misnamed one of their own music names.
Post by: ReyVGM on December 11, 2008, 09:29:27 PM
Well, Vampire Killer in ROB and Chronicles have parts of Stalker and the Prologue and it is still called Vampire Killer.

I guess they just pick one name and stick with that.
Title: Re: Hmmm I think Konami misnamed one of their own music names.
Post by: ReyVGM on December 11, 2008, 09:43:12 PM
Konami's sound department is pretty bad with this.
Title: Re: Hmmm I think Konami misnamed one of their own music names.
Post by: ReyVGM on December 11, 2008, 11:11:32 PM
I've been thinking... if Rondo of Blood's soundtest has Opus 13 and Slash named, why do we think they were wrong?

It's been a while since I've seen ROB's sound test, but the reason I noticed that mistake was because there is a song called "Slash" on the SNES Dracula X and in the ROB soundtrack is called Opus 13. So that's why I assumed it was a mistake. But if it's named like that in the game itself (and even on the PSP remake), then maybe it's the SNES version that has it wrong?
Or is there some sort of soundtrack that "proves" the correct name?
Maybe the soundtracks are correct and it's the game's soundtest that's wrong?
Title: Re: Hmmm I think Konami misnamed one of their own music names.
Post by: Koutei on December 14, 2008, 03:19:41 AM
In Reply To #8
I am Japanese. Japanese can be read and written.
But, I do not understand English.
I do not know the correct grammar.
However, I want to offer the accurate intelligence as much as possible.

*Haunted Castle
33 Resurrected Dracula
34 Wedding March Tragedy
35 Crucifix Held Close(Official translation from POR) or Cross on the Breast(Official translation from DXC)
36 The Devil's Resurrection
37 Battle Again
38 Devil's Lullaby(My translation)
39 No Return
40 Bloody Tears
41 Underground Melodies(Official translation) - Horror of clock tower(My translation)
42 Can't Wait Until Night(My translation)
43 Dracula's Room
44 Final Battle
45 Ending - Collapse of Demon Castle(My translation)
46 Never End
47 Lullaby sent to the Devils(My translation)

*Akumajo Dracula Super Famicom
Please wait.

*Attention* My translation is not necessarily exact.

In Reply To #11
http://castlevania.classicgaming.gamespy.com/forums/index.php?topic=396.0

Question : Is BGM of stage4' a "slash"?

IGA's Answer : Yes, Slash. I confirmed to composer. Sound track CD was a mistake.

Please trust producer's word.
Title: Re: Hmmm I think Konami misnamed one of their own music names.
Post by: ReyVGM on December 16, 2008, 01:06:10 AM
Thanks KOUTEI!
Any luck with the Akumajou Dracula Super Famicom names?
Title: Re: Hmmm I think Konami misnamed one of their own music names.
Post by: A n t r a x x on December 16, 2008, 10:15:06 AM
While on the subject, would anybody care to explain why Julius' Aria theme is called "Heart of Fire" when the arrangement uses more of "Don't Wait Until Night" from Haunted Castle than it does the original CV "Heart of Fire" ?

I think it's just that the title, "Heart of Fire,"  just fits Julius' personality a lot better. It just sounds more adventurous than the other one.

Actually, I think both pieces are used equally, song wise, though.
Title: Re: Hmmm I think Konami misnamed one of their own music names.
Post by: A n t r a x x on December 16, 2008, 10:16:47 AM

Or maybe, I don't know, maybe there was no switch. Maybe it was like that all along and we are just imagining it.

LOL

Nah, but it was fixed pretty quickly. By the time the Rondo OST came out, there was no going back. And now DXC proves that too.
Title: Re: Hmmm I think Konami misnamed one of their own music names.
Post by: ReyVGM on December 23, 2008, 11:32:27 AM
KOUTEI
Any luck with the Akumajou Dracula Super Famicom names?
Title: Re: Hmmm I think Konami misnamed one of their own music names.
Post by: Koutei on December 27, 2008, 07:39:55 AM
In Reply To #17

6 The Limestone cave - The Waterfall - The Submerged City (Stage 3 BGM)

8 Boss's Theme (Boss1 BGM)

10 Stage Map A (Stage Map A)
11 Go to the castle (Stage 5 BGM)
12 Pillar Passage - Banquet Hall (Stage 6 BGM)
13 Library - Collection Room (Stage 7 BGM)

15 Stage Map B (Stage Map B)

17 Boss's Theme 2 (Boss BGM 2)
18 Stage Map C (Stage Map C)

20 Stage Map D (Stage Map D)

23 Close adviser's Room (Stage 11 BGM)
24 Dracula's Room (Final stage BGM)

26 Ending Theme (Ending)
27 Secret Room (Bonus BGM)
28 Game Over (Game Over)

All except for this is same as dungeon translation.

My translation is not perfect.
This is unofficial fan translation.
Konami should translate all Music into English.
Title: Re: Hmmm I think Konami misnamed one of their own music names.
Post by: ReyVGM on December 27, 2008, 08:20:49 PM
Great, thanks for the help!
And I agree, Konami should translate the names to English already.