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Title: Hardest playable games of the 8-bit era
Post by: The Last Belmont on December 16, 2008, 02:04:22 PM
Which game's back in the day caused the most headaches, broken controllers and gave ya'll the most nightmares?
I'm not counting games like dr jekyll and mr hyde because the difficulty stems from nonexistant programming and not actual intended toughness.

Some of mine would have to be battletoads, (which I've never done w/out game genie because I'd get so mad at that damn red rat in level 6 that I had to turn it off before I destroyed my TV, that is one cheapass mofo), captain planet which is no fun to play as well as punishingly difficult, and silver surfer a game which I agree with AVGN had to be intended as a joke, it's a well made game minus not having a head's up as to what you can and can't touch with a good soundtrack but silver surfer dieing in 1 hit has to be a joke. I managed to beat the firelord once but after that I just couldn't stand to play this game anymore, it disgraces SS too much.
Title: Re: Hardest playable games of the 8-bit era
Post by: Bloodreign on December 16, 2008, 07:37:07 PM
Battletoads
Mega Man 1 without using glitches
Ghosts N Goblins (arcade version is still far harder)
P.O.W.


There's far more, but back in the day these games would beat you senseless till you learned/memorized patterns. Still love the 8 bit era, from NES to Sega Master System, something about that era has made me love that time period of gaming the most.
Title: Re: Hardest playable games of the 8-bit era
Post by: Kale on December 16, 2008, 07:48:02 PM
Omg... POW! You mean prisoner of war right? Dude... that game was OWNAGE! I miss that game... I don't think I've ever beaten it. But Ninja Gaiden games top em I think. I actually beat Battletoads and Battletoads & Double Dragon, though.

Never tried Ghost and Goblins, so I can't say much about that.
Title: Re: Hardest playable games of the 8-bit era
Post by: Bloodreign on December 16, 2008, 07:51:29 PM
In Reply To #3

Yes Prisoner of War for the NES, longer than it's arcade counterpart, and quite a bit tougher as well.

I've played many NES games and SMS games via emulation, but now I'm trying to put together a nice NES collection, over 50 carts right now and slowly building it higher.
Title: Re: Hardest playable games of the 8-bit era
Post by: Kale on December 16, 2008, 08:07:41 PM
Hah, nice. I never "owned" one. My niece or nephew did and I just played them. But that game was so fun... til I died... I remember getting decently far though.
Title: Re: Hardest playable games of the 8-bit era
Post by: The Last Belmont on December 16, 2008, 10:29:53 PM
Omg... POW! You mean prisoner of war right? Dude... that game was OWNAGE! I miss that game... I don't think I've ever beaten it. But Ninja Gaiden games top em I think.

Y'know it's weird because ninja gaiden never really gave me problems, games like friday the 13th and ANOES always kicked my ass back in the day. (till game genie came out that is ;) )
Title: Re: Hardest playable games of the 8-bit era
Post by: A n t r a x x on December 17, 2008, 11:47:59 AM
- Transformers (NES IMPORT)

... If you don't know... you don't want to know. Most ppl will die within 2 seconds of starting -- I kid you not. However it is entirely playable once you understand how, but never easy.

- Metroid (Go back and play it: it's a BITCH. You will get lost, and you will get frustrated.)

- Batman

- Castlevnia III: Dracula's Curse (I'd like to see CV newbies take this one on. Good luck with that.)

- Mega Man 1

- Dragon's Lair

- Bionic Commando

- Shadowgate

- Gyromite (well, without R.O.B. to help you, you're fucked)

- Kid Icarus (because it starts out so hard, only getting easier much later... which is very opposite of most games)

- Castle Quest

- Solstice (because of the viewpoint)

- Bayou Billy (GAWD he's slow)

- Double Dragon 3

- Legacy of the Wizard (Dragon Slayer series)(Because YOU WILL get lost)

- The Legend of Zelda (Second Quest -- MADNESS!)

- Ninja Gaiden series

- Ikari Warrior series (2-player can help, but this is still one tough mo-fo of a series)

- Donkey Kong

- Wizzards and Warriors series (because of the stupid controls...)
Title: Re: Hardest playable games of the 8-bit era
Post by: Bloodreign on December 17, 2008, 09:51:03 PM
In Reply To #7

I used to own Bayou Billy back in the day, beat it constantly, often in 1 credit. It's Japanese counterpart, Mad City is easier, after not playing Bayou Billy for a number of years, passed that one in 1 credit as well.

Either my skills returned, or Mad City is just that easy.
Title: Re: Hardest playable games of the 8-bit era
Post by: cecil-kain on December 19, 2008, 08:26:02 AM
In Reply To #1

Ninja Gaiden.

Although NES Batman haunts me because I never did finish that b!tch. *shiver*
Title: Re: Hardest playable games of the 8-bit era
Post by: shelverton. on December 20, 2008, 04:33:40 AM

I never had any problems with either Batman or Bionic Commando. They're kinda easy if you practice a little. Bayou Billy however was EVIL. I never beat it.

And I dunno about you, but Zelda II is one of the hardest games I've played on the NES. That and Ghosts'n Goblins.

Title: Re: Hardest playable games of the 8-bit era
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on December 20, 2008, 09:51:01 AM
I've never beaten "Battle of Olympus" or "Faxanadu" even though Battle of Olympus had passwords.

:(
Title: Re: Hardest playable games of the 8-bit era
Post by: Xain on December 20, 2008, 09:57:44 AM
- Castle Quest

Wow, i haven't thought about that game for a while. That's an evil bitch of a game. I used to play it a lot when i was younger...i really should pick it up when I'm at my aunt's house next time and see if age will make it easier. (I severely doubt it)
Title: Re: Hardest playable games of the 8-bit era
Post by: Kale on December 20, 2008, 11:06:24 AM
In Reply To #6

I beat Friday the 13th. It wasn't all that hard. But it just repeats itself over and over again.
Title: Re: Hardest playable games of the 8-bit era
Post by: Jago on December 20, 2008, 02:22:19 PM
silver surfer
Title: Re: Hardest playable games of the 8-bit era
Post by: Aridale on December 20, 2008, 07:29:09 PM
In Reply To #11

Ive beat Faxanadu... Very good game love it.
Title: Re: Hardest playable games of the 8-bit era
Post by: JR on December 21, 2008, 12:05:59 AM
The only one I can remember not being able to beat fair and square is Battletoads.
Title: Re: Hardest playable games of the 8-bit era
Post by: Profbeanburrito on December 21, 2008, 12:41:49 AM
Milon's Secret Castle. I can't figure that game out
Title: Re: Hardest playable games of the 8-bit era
Post by: shelverton. on December 21, 2008, 08:23:37 AM

I can see why some people would have problems with Faxanadu. The controls are kinda awkward for example. But I love the game anyway. I especially love how every piece of armor and weapon is visable on your character (I completely forgive him for starting the game in his underwear, lol.) The final dungeon is confusing though, but the last boss is a piece of cake  8)

Other games that deserve to be in this thread:
Mission Impossible
Kinda similar to Metal Gear but not quite. There are some incredibly frustrating levels in it. I could never beat it. The music was fantastic though!

Rush'n'Attack
Not having a lifebar in a game like this is quite insane. It worked in Contra though, and this game is arguably easier. But it's still a pain to go through if you don't know what you're doing. I did finish it after a few years.
Title: Re: Hardest playable games of the 8-bit era
Post by: DoctaMario on December 21, 2008, 01:20:26 PM

Ghosts N Goblins (arcade version is still far harder)
P.O.W.



I never had any problems with POW. *shrug*

Ghosts n Goblins on the other hand...holy SHIT those games are hard! I'm playing Ultimate on the PSP right now, and I started out on Normal mode but decided Novice was better. And Novice is STILL really hard.  :P Great game though, kinda reminds me of DXC in a way.
Title: Re: Hardest playable games of the 8-bit era
Post by: The Last Belmont on December 21, 2008, 02:41:26 PM
In Reply To #7

I used to own Bayou Billy back in the day, beat it constantly, often in 1 credit. It's Japanese counterpart, Mad City is easier, after not playing Bayou Billy for a number of years, passed that one in 1 credit as well.

Either my skills returned, or Mad City is just that easy.

Yeah Bayou Billy was fun used to play that all the time. I always hated those damn driving parts though, always gave me the most trouble. i can remember the first time I finally passed those sons of bitches I was extatic. (till i got to the main boss that is)

In Reply To #6

I beat Friday the 13th. It wasn't all that hard. But it just repeats itself over and over again.

trick to that game is to hunt jason down with the pitchfork or the fire on day 3 wait until he goes after a counselor get in front of that cabin and wait for him to kill him/her then start walking right, you'll encounter him, just unload and when he runs away follow him real fuckin' fast and he'll fight with you again, jus keep repeating until he's dead. Fighting him in a cabin on day 3 is impossible with the pitchfork because it's too slow and insanely hard with the fire, it requires perfect timing right after he runs from the right of the screen and does his double attack.

I never had any problems with either Batman or Bionic Commando.


Yeah I found those games pretty easy too once you figured out all the little tricks to passing the jumping parts and conserved your ammo.

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And I dunno about you, but Zelda II is one of the hardest games I've played on the NES.

the trick to zelda 2 is to know where the game hides the red potions in the dungeons. Also be sure and level up before you go into each subsequent dungeon and just stay next to a town so if you get too damaged you can fuck a prostitute and get full health again. It's also essential to talk to everybody and get all the magic and heart containers. If you just take your time and think the different situations that arise through I found it really quite easy. Except dungeon 7 but you get infinite tries there.
Title: Re: Hardest playable games of the 8-bit era
Post by: Profbeanburrito on December 22, 2008, 01:04:25 AM
OH, A Boy and his Blob is hard....another game I just couldn't figure out...

Damn you David Crane!
Title: Re: Hardest playable games of the 8-bit era
Post by: A n t r a x x on December 22, 2008, 01:19:51 AM
In Reply To #11

Ive beat Faxanadu... Very good game love it.

Yes it is.
Title: Re: Hardest playable games of the 8-bit era
Post by: Aridale on December 22, 2008, 03:02:23 AM
In Reply To #21

nother quite good game... Ive always wanted to remake it for some reason I really cant explain.
Title: Re: Hardest playable games of the 8-bit era
Post by: Bizarro Belmont on December 22, 2008, 10:25:44 AM
Castlevania  ;D
Title: Re: Hardest playable games of the 8-bit era
Post by: A n t r a x x on December 22, 2008, 04:24:23 PM
In Reply To #21

nother quite good game... Ive always wanted to remake it for some reason I really cant explain.

They were supposed to remake it for the GBA but that never happened.

The reason I would say Boy and His Blob is not hard though is that it's so fucking short.
Title: Re: Hardest playable games of the 8-bit era
Post by: The Last Belmont on December 22, 2008, 07:20:58 PM


- Ice Climbers (fucking hate its controls)


Yeah Ice Climbers controls are just plain dumb. the game is pretty fun but the horrid controls take alot out of it.
Title: Re: Hardest playable games of the 8-bit era
Post by: DoctaMario on December 24, 2008, 09:44:24 PM
Yeah Bayou Billy was fun used to play that all the time. I always hated those damn driving parts though, always gave me the most trouble. i can remember the first time I finally passed those sons of bitches I was extatic. (till i got to the main boss that is)

I loved Bayou Billy too. Never beat it though, cuz those last two guys would always kill me before I could finish them off. And only one of them took damage if I remember right.

I used to just creep pretty slow on the driving parts, at least on the first one. The rocks used to own me. >_<
Title: Re: Hardest playable games of the 8-bit era
Post by: The Last Belmont on December 24, 2008, 11:27:30 PM
I loved Bayou Billy too. Never beat it though, cuz those last two guys would always kill me before I could finish them off. And only one of them took damage if I remember right.

Those dudes was tough homes. Game Genie and a six pack of beer are a must.  ;)

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I used to just creep pretty slow on the driving parts, at least on the first one. The rocks used to own me. >_<

yeah the rocks in the road suck. the levels are so long, I can remember eating an entire bag of chips waiting for them to finish.