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Title: Serious Mario
Post by: James Belmont on December 18, 2008, 01:44:51 PM
I was thinking today about how Zelda has had both cartoony entries, and darker, more mature realistic entries, and for some reason, I was reminded of how the Zelda franchise and the Mario franchise were created by the same man.

So, out of sheer curiousity, I feel like posing the question: how would you guys feel if Mario got a similar treatment? A darker, more realistic approach, ala Ocarina of  Time, or Twilight Princess.
Title: Re: Serious Mario
Post by: crisis on December 18, 2008, 02:47:05 PM
We already got a taste of serious/realistic Mario. The movie  :P
Title: Re: Serious Mario
Post by: thernz on December 18, 2008, 02:51:09 PM
I can't imagine how a serious Mario game could be taken seriously. I mean Zelda has a fantasy motif. Mario has... a plumber and a pretty cartoony variety of characters.
Title: Re: Serious Mario
Post by: A n t r a x x on December 18, 2008, 04:25:19 PM
DON'T!
Title: Re: Serious Mario
Post by: paletteswapmonster on December 18, 2008, 09:08:19 PM
SERIOUS Mario, eh? Sounds silly. Very silly. Kind of like trying to make Mickey Mouse SERIOUS. Oh wait...

EDIT: It took me until now to notice the typo...
Title: Re: Serious Mario
Post by: Profbeanburrito on December 19, 2008, 01:19:35 AM
Bad idea! The most serious I want my Mario games is Mario RPG serious, which really isn't serious at all...

Title: Re: Serious Mario
Post by: Blue Cheese on December 19, 2008, 08:10:06 AM
A slightly darker Mario would work I think. It would be trippy and unnerving like Labyrinth crossed with Lord Of The Rings and stirred with Hellboy. Bowser would be intimidating, the goombas and troopas would be creepy, the Mushroom Kingdom would be other worldly.
If done right that is. 
Title: Re: Serious Mario
Post by: paletteswapmonster on December 19, 2008, 08:24:10 AM
Paper Mario: TTYD already worked as a slightly darker Mario(the Twilight Town stuff and the Shadow Queen revival).
Title: Re: Serious Mario
Post by: Munchy on December 21, 2008, 05:12:04 PM
Mario would be hilarious if it were serious. I mean, it just can't be. The though of Mario bouncing around mushrooms and crap with a completely straight face makes me giggle. Thankfully, Nintendo isn't dumb/brave enough to try it, unlike Sega (recent Sonic games) and Konami/Hudson (Bomberman Act Zero).
Title: Re: Serious Mario
Post by: A n t r a x x on December 22, 2008, 01:20:57 AM
Yeah will leave this job to Youtube.
Title: Re: Serious Mario
Post by: shelverton. on December 25, 2008, 03:36:01 AM

I WANT IT!
Mario is from Brooklyn, right? That's what the magazines wrote about him in the 80's anyway. So, the idea of a gritty urban setting, with Mario being a fat italian plumber getting caught up in some... drama. Maybe they could make it a survival horror game set in the sewers of NYC :D
Haha, jesus christ the game would completely suck, but I want it nonetheless!
Title: Re: Serious Mario
Post by: The Last Belmont on December 25, 2008, 12:03:43 PM
I was thinking today about how Zelda has had both cartoony entries, and darker, more mature realistic entries, and for some reason, I was reminded of how the Zelda franchise and the Mario franchise were created by the same man.

So, out of sheer curiousity, I feel like posing the question: how would you guys feel if Mario got a similar treatment? A darker, more realistic approach, ala Ocarina of
Title: Re: Serious Mario
Post by: silvermoonlight on December 25, 2008, 04:11:51 PM
A serious mario... hmm..

I don't know how you could possibly make a serious mario, considering that the whole idea and concept of mario is that of a fun-loving, fat, jolly, comical italian plumber. Nintendo uses "mario and the gang" to get kids to buy their products. He's not exactly a dynamic character. Nintendo would need to flesh out his personality and give him deeper motives, a past, ambitions, hopes, etc. 

It could, however, be quite innovative if it was ever made.
Title: Re: Serious Mario
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on December 25, 2008, 05:38:31 PM
I guess you guys haven't seen this. (http://therewillbebrawl.com/episodesEpisode1.php)

There Will Be Brawl.

Not intended for viewers under the age of 18.
Title: Re: Serious Mario
Post by: Aridale on December 25, 2008, 06:54:58 PM
In Reply To #14

That was possibly the worst thing Ive ever seen
Title: Re: Serious Mario
Post by: Marty Belmont on December 26, 2008, 08:52:17 AM
What about Mario and Luigi: Partners in Time?
 I found that game to have a pretty dark story, if not exactly original, and the music was a lot darker then I'm used to in a mario game (The Forest, Toad Town, and Star Hill was virtually transcendant.)
Title: Re: Serious Mario
Post by: Battler Ushiromiya on December 31, 2008, 10:25:03 PM
In Reply To #14

I laughed at Kirby being Hannibal Lecter. Good stuff.
Title: Re: Serious Mario
Post by: The Last Belmont on December 31, 2008, 11:06:18 PM
What about Mario and Luigi: Partners in Time?
 I found that game to have a pretty dark story, if not exactly original, and the music was a lot darker then I'm used to in a mario game (The Forest, Toad Town, and Star Hill was virtually transcendant.)

Yeah that game was good. Love the mario rpg games.

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned smb and smb2jp? Doesn't get much darker than king koopa transforming all of the mushroom kingdom into dealers of death and sending them all after your head. All while he clones himself and places the clones in 7 other palaces that you must demolish your way through to get to the final one where you finally burn/throw him into a boiling pit of lava incinerating him and saving your woman.
Title: Re: Serious Mario
Post by: Bizarro Belmont on January 02, 2009, 05:58:03 PM
My idea of serious Mario would be a plumbing sim. I'd kill to see Mario do some plumbing as he IS a plumber (I got an ex who think's he isn't...and that Luigi isn't his brother.). And throw in Roddy Piper, straight outta alcatraz ready to make him an endangered species!
Title: Re: Serious Mario
Post by: uzo on January 02, 2009, 11:00:56 PM
I guess you guys haven't seen this. (http://therewillbebrawl.com/episodesEpisode1.php)

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Title: Re: Serious Mario
Post by: The Last Belmont on January 03, 2009, 04:43:16 AM
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Yeah dat shit's funny.
Title: Re: Serious Mario
Post by: Baigan on January 05, 2009, 09:41:17 AM
Drama would kill Mario. Though those SMB fortresses were pretty intimidating. Like being in an oven. Also those hammer brothers -- nightmare.