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Title: 3-D Belmonts
Post by: Marto on October 15, 2007, 12:43:59 AM
Two Belmonts were shown in the 3D castlevania world, and each of them was very different aside from being designed by Kojima, and that they both had whips. So which Belmont did you prefer and why?

Leon Belmont, or Trevor Belmont?

I personally liked Leon far more than I did Trevor.

He felt a lot more sympathetic, and his story was by far one of my favourite out of the Castlevania realm. I also prefered his gameplay far more than Trevor's. Reasons for that would be the huge variety in whip attacks, the different magic implements, and mostly, he was by far the epitome of gracefulness within the Castlevania realm. He had far more elegance and mastery in his movements than Trevor who just seemed to come off as being a bit of a brute. Not only, but I adored his run, which seemed very refined, and actually casual in its execution. It didn't feel as strained and..."fussy" (?), unlike Trevor's which seemed like an angry middle-school girl storming toward her boyfriend's house to slap him up.

I will give it to Trevor, he had that sweet spiral spin attack, but you can't beat Leon's air kick, and his whip combos where he comes down with a finisher similar to that of Isaac's Laser Blade/ Hector's 7-Bladed sword/Kris Naga.T
Title: Re: 3-D Belmonts
Post by: Azmodan on October 15, 2007, 12:55:15 AM
Trevor. He's probably the only Belmont that Kojima designed that still is gruff and rough.
Ralph C. for the win.
Title: Re: 3-D Belmonts
Post by: PFG9000 on October 15, 2007, 01:36:34 AM
Better in which way?

I like Trevor much more as an overall character.  He's also much more common in the CV world, as he's played an important role in two games and made little cameos in two more.  All Leon's got is Lament, unless you count the Greatest Five in PoR.

But Leon is animated gorgeously compared to Trevor, if we're just looking at the 3D entries.  I don't think I've seen any 3D character on the PS2 that looks as pretty (in a graphical sense, you sickos) as Leon.  Also, Leon plays the main role in Lament, while Trevor is sorta a secondary character in Curse.  So I went with Leon, assuming we're only looking at the 3D games.
Title: Re: 3-D Belmonts
Post by: Marto on October 15, 2007, 05:42:57 AM
In Reply To #3

Yes, you understood exactly what I meant: Beautiful rendition of the way a Belmont should move - Leon Belmont.

I do agree Trevor's more memorable, but I think Leon was far more interesting. I think he didn't need many games either - LoI was more tragedy and grief than any Belmont's ever suffered, except for maybe Hector ( But I dislike him personally... ). I think Leon was the most memorable Belmont in the way that he played, because he felt the most...beautiful? I think that's a good way to put it.

And yup, we're only looking at the 3D titles, and more precisely, the PS2 games.  ;)
Title: Re: 3-D Belmonts
Post by: Marto on October 15, 2007, 05:44:35 AM
In Reply To #2


I agree as far as the rough and gruff part! Kojima managed to not only give him handsome features, but retain his title as "strongest" amongst the Belmonts. Hell, the guy even survived being stabbed by Isaac thought the heart!  :o

....Leon's still my favourite though... 8) :P
Title: Re: 3-D Belmonts
Post by: SymboliC on October 15, 2007, 06:04:16 AM
Trevor. He's probably the only Belmont that Kojima designed that still is gruff and rough.
Ralph C. for the win.

^ Also my opinion. Though of course, I still liked Leon, he's good for a first Vampire killah.
Title: Re: 3-D Belmonts
Post by: Dark Nemesis on October 15, 2007, 01:15:44 PM
Trevor is looking more cool for me than Leon. It's character has his own style.

  For example, Leon has great movement and Trevor nice fighting style and looking.
Title: Re: 3-D Belmonts
Post by: crisis on October 15, 2007, 03:55:02 PM
It's kinda silly for a character more less a Belmont to look "pretty" as they explore a rotting castle full of skeletons.

But for arguments sake, I'd pick Leon.
Title: Re: 3-D Belmonts
Post by: CVfan13 on October 15, 2007, 05:54:37 PM
Trevor. No question about it. He's always been my favorite Belmont, and always will be.
Title: Re: 3-D Belmonts
Post by: impulse on October 15, 2007, 07:15:05 PM
As a character I enjoyed Trevor more. Put simply;
he's very badass, while Leon feels a bit more coockie-cutter, like Hector imo., although I liked the
"I'l kill you AND the night!" part. I also think
Trevor had some great voice work in CoD which stood out (CoD had very good voice work overall, except perhaps
for Julia, partly due to her wierd lines).

And while I agree that Leon's fighting style is more gracefull (and better animated), Trevor's agressive style totally fits his character. And he does have some sweet moves, including his kicks.

Although gameplay wise, I think Leons controls better.
Title: Re: 3-D Belmonts
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on October 15, 2007, 07:34:15 PM
In Reply To #1

I like Reinhardt...
Title: Re: 3-D Belmonts
Post by: olroxshade on October 15, 2007, 10:21:01 PM
Leon is better designes, but Trevor is Trevor :P
Title: Re: 3-D Belmonts
Post by: Marto on October 16, 2007, 01:11:21 AM
 :'( Leon got creamed...and that's not in the way that Matthias used to cream him either!!! Poor him... :'(

Okay, what the hell, he's my favourite Belmont (alongside Juste) yet I make so many gay jokes about him, you'd think I hate him.

As for whoever said pretty guys in rotting castles doesn't work: It's castlevania, it's meant to be graceful and gothic. When you think gothic, you think beautiful, ambient, eerie.
Title: Re: 3-D Belmonts
Post by: Slayer on October 16, 2007, 01:58:27 AM
Leon controlled TONS better than Trevor in CoD.
Title: Re: 3-D Belmonts
Post by: Ed Oscuro on October 17, 2007, 12:35:29 AM
Two Belmonts were shown in the 3D castlevania world
Uhh, Reinhardt was a Belmont. Not in name, but in blood, which is just as good.
Title: Re: 3-D Belmonts
Post by: Marto on October 17, 2007, 01:42:20 AM
In Reply To #15

I was simply talking about the PS2 belmonts that are in the official storyline.
Title: Re: 3-D Belmonts
Post by: Kale on October 17, 2007, 01:57:25 AM
which you should specify.

And thats not right, leaving out the other belmont just because of platform.
Title: Re: 3-D Belmonts
Post by: Marto on October 17, 2007, 05:20:55 AM
In Reply To #17


...Or cannonal reasons..
Title: Re: 3-D Belmonts
Post by: crisis on October 17, 2007, 05:22:56 PM
Simon Belmont was in a 3D game too

Dream Mix Fighters or something like that.
Title: Re: 3-D Belmonts
Post by: Marto on October 17, 2007, 05:32:24 PM
In Reply To #19



Sweet! Any screenshots available? I'd like to see what he looked like.
Title: Re: 3-D Belmonts
Post by: crisis on October 18, 2007, 02:54:13 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cTHXaKmBa_w

Snake vs. Simon
Title: Re: 3-D Belmonts
Post by: Aridale on October 18, 2007, 05:09:56 AM
In Reply To #21

wow ty for postin cause I mean its better than nothin but goddamn could there be any worse footage lol
Title: Re: 3-D Belmonts
Post by: The Clark on October 18, 2007, 05:21:11 AM
http://media.cube.ign.com/media/606/606418/vids_1.html

Watch the one called 'Bomberman Rules!' and behold Simon Belmont spamming giant crosses (on the Castlevania stage even).
Title: Re: 3-D Belmonts
Post by: Dark Nemesis on October 18, 2007, 12:45:33 PM
Wow, i didn't knew about that game. :o Very cool!!
Title: Re: 3-D Belmonts
Post by: crisis on October 18, 2007, 04:54:14 PM
Yeah.. so I don't see any reason why ppl bitch for Simon not being in Brawl. If you wanna fight him/fight as him, get Dream Mix!



It has Optimus Prime, too.
Title: Re: 3-D Belmonts
Post by: Aridale on October 18, 2007, 04:59:01 PM
In Reply To #23

Be alot cooler if Optimus was bigger. But its cool he looks just like the toy (literally).
Title: Re: 3-D Belmonts
Post by: Azmodan on October 18, 2007, 06:04:51 PM
In Reply To #25

Yet if I wanted to play as Solid Snake, I'd buy DreamMix for that, too.
Title: Re: 3-D Belmonts
Post by: Marto on October 19, 2007, 04:25:47 PM
Yeah.. so I don't see any reason why ppl bitch for Simon not being in Brawl. If you wanna fight him/fight as him, get Dream Mix!



It has Optimus Prime, too.
Because Smash bros is better quality, and it is an insult not to have one of nintendo's strong-hold characters in. I mean, hell, even PIT, who's only been in ONE game that not many people even have, managed to sneak into there. So, I personally think it's an insult to Castlevania and Nintendo's original characters.

Oh, and by the way: Screw snake! He looks lame as all heck, and his fighting looks sketchy and generic!
Title: Re: 3-D Belmonts
Post by: crisis on October 19, 2007, 06:09:16 PM
I could also say it's an insult to fans that Megaman isn't in it.. or how about some other NES characters such as Blaster Master, some Final Fantasy characters, etc. Get my point?

Simon isn't the only character that's being excluded, get over it.
Title: Re: 3-D Belmonts
Post by: Thomas Belmont on October 20, 2007, 04:34:08 PM
Trevor!