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The Castlevania Dungeon Forums => General Castlevania Discussion => Topic started by: zelda04 on October 16, 2007, 12:56:15 PM
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I was just wondering if there was ever a female belmont what would she be named?
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............... Sonia.
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Screw that. Zoe and Dolores. :P
Neither of them or sonia are canon but so what.
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Sarah- too Jewish.
Lisa=Elizabeth- too Draculish.
I would go for an unusual name, like Liliane or Florence or Juliet or something like this.
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She would be named Josephine. Josephine Belmont.
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I notices all of your names are used for either CV damsels in distress, or for Dracula's wives (okay, Elizabeth was actually Elizabetha, but so what?) :P You should think of something a bit more...original.
I'd say Charlotte, Lily (or lillia, anything inspired by lily), or Anna.
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Gloria Belmont. Lucia Belmont. Rachel Belmont. Catherine Belmont. Angela Belmont. Diane Belmont.
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Georgetta Belmont
Ursula Belmont ;D
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Chrystine Belmont or Alexandria Belmont
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There IS a female Belmont...
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In Reply To #10
Not in canon...
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In Reply To #11
so what he's not god ::)
so canon can go to hell Sonia is in the true time line :P
i like the guy hay SOTN was the best game ever IMO but.
Castlevania was around long before he got his hands on it
and anything that made it in game format is part of the timeline no matter what he saids ;)
so Sonia is the first girl with a whip and nothing will change that;D
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In Reply To #12
You are wrong. I'd say more but I'd get in trouble...
...Idiot. :-X
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In Reply To #13
Goodbye.
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In Reply To #12
Technically Sonia IS the first female Belmont, and as noted, I didn't mention Sonia because Kale did in one of the first posts. That, I would've thought counted at least for something.
Even though IGA ISN'T God, Sonia not being in OFFICIAL continuity does stand, whether fans like it or not. You don't have to like it or accept it, but it's still company official. Anything else would be fan based, thus non-official. But, there's nothing wrong with fan-basing things.
Seriously, I can't understand why some people let these things bother them, though I understand a bit when people remind me of the "Sonia + Alucard = Trevor's parents"....urgh!!
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In Reply To #15
Yea the Alucard and Sonia thing bugs me, but Sonia isn't a bad creation imo.
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I would honestly prefer to see one of the oos belmont females with a whip. I was never too much into blonde female designs, and one of them has brown hair. :o
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If you want a different name, what about Dalia Belmont?
For me this name sounds elegant.
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Simonelia Belmontia.
:-X
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Bertha Belmont
heh heh
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Melinda Belmont
Helena Belmont
Both from concept albums but they sound good!
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I would honestly prefer to see one of the oos belmont females with a whip. I was never too much into blonde female designs, and one of them has brown hair. :o
Something about a girl in a leather suit wielding a whip seems a bit too S&M for me.
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Clara Belmont ;)
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In Reply To #23
Suck up ;D. Playing the "Mods are AWESOME!!" game will not get you any extra brownie points...I think...
...I could use some Brownies right now...
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I'm quite partial to Clara and Helena Belmont! Those were two names I used when I was thinking up my own CV fanfic game idea.
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Katie Belmont
Nikki Belmont
Linda Belmont
Krystal Belmont
and so forth, the options are endless XDDD
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Personal favourite; Sophia Belmont.
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Josette
Bianca
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Blanche.
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No female Belmont please. IGA already proved what he could do with female main characters with Charolette. If there was a lead female Belmont, all you would see is pixel boobs flying across the screen.
No TY.
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In Reply To #30
That's no true! I really like Castlevania Legends and Castlevania Resurrection was looking awesome and better than LoI and CoD!!
Also i like the name Sophia Belmont! ;D
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Notice he said Iga. Neither of those were made by him. Legends was by kcen, resurrection by some americans.
Both had kind of crappy storylines, and resurrection also had awful character designs all around. Victor was probably the only one who had half decent design.
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In Reply To #32
Oh, surely you concede Dracula's wife was loads better than anything Kojima could draw.
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In Reply To #32
Resurrection was better from LoI and CoD because it was having more depth and open enviroment stages than LoI and CoD that they have linear stages and that's a major minus for those two. Also i believe that it could have a more intresting scenario.
LoI and CoD= Linear tunnel stages
Resurrection= Open free to explore stages
Also if resurrection was made with the same graphics engine that LoI and CoD they were made it would have been far superior from them.
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Sonia might not be a canon, but still she is one of my favorite Castlevania characters.
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In Reply To #34
But I thought CVR was said to have just linear beat em' up action when asked about if it was going to be Symphony-esque.
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In Reply To #35
They said that it was going to be action, without the RPG elements from Symphony and what i meant, was that Resurrection is having more open space stages to explore and maybe you could have interaction with the enviroment, unlike LoI and CoD that you were forced to follow narrow path's like tunnel's.
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In Reply To #36
Well, I dunno. There's not much difference from the way those screenshots look and how Sonic Adventure played, which looked open but followed a linear path.
But I'm speculating on a game that for better or for worse never saw the light of day.
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In Reply To #37
Well, the files of the game are in store somewhere at Konami. The only think is that IGA doesn't do anythink for this game or another Castlevania with a female lead character and i believe that he want do that either in the future.
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In Reply To #38
Maybe he can release the remains of Resurrection as an unlockable in some Chronicles game...
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In Reply To #38
Maybe he can release the remains of Resurrection as an unlockable in some Chronicles game...
Noes. Resurrection is heresy. Keep time-traveling away from Castlevania, please. And ignore that St. Germaine or however the guy's name was that was said to do time-traveling in CoD.
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Resurrection was better from LoI and CoD because
Whoa whoa whoa, stop right there! Rezz was never released, so how would you or anybody know if it was better than LoI/CoD? For the very few that sampled the demo, it might've seemed alright at the time, but there have been plenty of demos that played fine but when the actual game came out they were actually garbage.
Also i believe that it could have a more intresting scenario.
It would've been on par with CoD.. Sonia+time travel+tim curry lookalike = suckage!
Also if resurrection was made with the same graphics engine that LoI and CoD they were made it would have been far superior from them.
Maybe, maybe not. I guess we'll never know!
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My female Belmont names:
Gennifer Belmont - said like "again" without the a. Not Gin like Jennifer. Also Aridale's moms name.
Renee Belmont
Ophelia Belmont
all I got atm.
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Urgh, those Resurrection screens almost make me want to gag. Sonia, in particular. They could've made her look hot, but instead, she's horse-faced and almost has a unibrow. WTF? The chicks from the N64 CVs were hotter than her, and less graphically polished. That's a MAJOR "WTF?"!! And yeah, all you can do to prop Resurrections up is what you THINK it would be like, but since it WASN'T released, it cannot be compared to games that WERE released. There are OTHER games that were in developement by various companies, that for some reason, were not completed and the projects were dropped. Do you seriously think those games "count"? Unless the game is released, it doesn't count. Right now, strange to say, "Order of Shadows" counts MORE than Resurrection, because unlike Resurrection, it DID get released, even though the character design is just as crappy. The "what if"s just don't count. The "what are"s DO.
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There was an interview with IGA when he was about to release CoD and the reporter has ask him if there was a chance to see Resurrections levels as a bonus at a future game if not the actual game and IGA has answered him that if the time allow it he might include them as bonus on a future game. What site was i don't remember, maybe it was IGN i think.
Also from the time that you have vast areas to explore on a game, that count's more for me than graphics. I don't play a game for the graphics, but for what it is.
So only time will tell.....
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Resurrection= Open free to explore stages
Sure. Just give proof for that. For all we know there could be tons of invisible walls like loi/cod that'd make the game just a bunch of linear corridors with pretty backgrounds that make it look like it's "vast to explore" but in reality it's just a corridor which you can't even return to once you beat it.
And hell, those are just few shots, some of them showing corridors. Loi and cod had more areas than that which looked open and vast but in reality weren't. I bet if they only showed screens of those for the games then cancelled them you'd be hailing them as the best things ever because of the "vast, free to explore levels" as well as "story that could be better than X" or "zomg sonia is in". ::)
In short, the game was not released and cancelled early in production because it was made by american division of konami who didn't seem to know what they're doing (just look at the design for "dracula lady" thing. Even a 6 year old kid could design a better villain), so whatever you say about it being better than loi/cod because of the level design you never even saw is fantasy you try to pass as reality.
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In Reply To #44
Graphics aren't everything, sure, but you do realize that can't take a step back when making a game. That seems to be the major complaint with some aspects of LoI and CoD. As far as Graphics are concerned, if you have Ayami Kojima's lovely SotN characters, then are introduced to the N64 CV's awesome looking characters, ANYTHING LESS would not suffice. Get it? Then, to introduce ugly-ass characters, especially after you got the fanbase liking the looks of the prior games, that's just upsetting stomachs. The first time I seen Resurrection's Sonia, I asked, "What happened to the hot ass Sonia from Legends?! She was AWESOME looking! This chick(from Resurrections) looks like 'Olga the mule faced Viking Woman'. And, why in the HELL was Tim Curry in the game? Some sort of Rocky Horror Picture Show tribute?? I mean, with the time hopping powers, are they going to do the 'Time Warp'?". It's like, for the steps forward Konami took in revitalizing the "face" of CV(and though I'm not a fan of the N64-vanias or Legends, I admit, the "look" of those games and the characters are badass), Resurrections took ten steps back in the graphics department.
And regarding what IGA said on the matter of the left over data of Resurrections, he doesn't have any plans on ever releasing any stages. And, I can assure you, if he does, he'll have his peeps indefinately remodel and touch up the stages to look(at the very least) on par with LoI and CoD, though with hopes that CV's heading onto the NEXT gen, the actual HOPE that IGA will draw upon the Resurrection resources is fading FAST. It's just going to be another one of those "games that could've been, but will never be" type deals, locked away in a vault for all of eternity. There's no use crying over spilled milk, it's done. Gone. Finito! It's like wondering what could've happened between you and that girl from junior high if you had the nerve to ask her out, but you didn't and it's 10 years past and you're still kicking yourself about it. Sometimes you have to move on and forget about it!
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Getting back on topic-why not something a bit more Romanian? The good one has already been taken by a non Belmont however (Maria). But there are other good ones. Sophia/Sofia is good, IMO. Aurelia I like too. I think Lily was mentioned, which would be either Lili or Liliana in Romanian. There are a bunch of others, just need to look online.
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Sofia/Sophia is an excellent name. I can't understand why they(be it IGA or pre-IGA/CV64/CotM/Legends CV creators) never thought of that name before. It's a beautiful name.
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It's like wondering what could've happened between you and that girl from junior high if you had the nerve to ask her out, but you didn't and it's 10 years past and you're still kicking yourself about it. Sometimes you have to move on and forget about it!
:'(
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Look, what i wanted to say and pass, is that if Resurrection was a game made with the same graphic engine like LoI and CoD then it would have been better and not with the graphics that it was having for the dreamcast.
Also this game doesn't have to stop IGA from making a new Castlevania game with a female leader character.
With this said, i have nothing more to say and let's just get back to the topic!! :)
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Okay, so female Belmont names...
Sylvia Belmont
Angela Balmont
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It's like wondering what could've happened between you and that girl from junior high if you had the nerve to ask her out, but you didn't and it's 10 years past and you're still kicking yourself about it. Sometimes you have to move on and forget about it!
FTW! Lol! Although I liked the screen shots of Resurrection (though if they released it looking like that on the PS2, I'd be less than impressed. It'd be a good N64 game though.)
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Yeah, the in-game graphics weren't that good. Some of the screens looked alright. Particularly the exterior screens of the castle, but everything else looks bland in comparison. Definately lacking the flair of even CoD and LoI. Wasn't Dreamcast suposed to be stronger than the PS2? But again, were those screens even from the final build? We'll never know how exactly the final version would look like, if those screens WERE from the time of early dev.
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simon
j/k
i personally thought sonia was a good name so imma go with that
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Fred Fredburger Belmont.
She can annoy enemies to death with questions regarding the ice cream flavours.
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Either Victoria Belmont or Emelia Belmont.
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Even though IGA ISN'T God, Sonia not being in OFFICIAL continuity does stand, whether fans like it or not. You don't have to like it or accept it, but it's still company official. Anything else would be fan based, thus non-official. But, there's nothing wrong with fan-basing things.
My take:
Legends is an official Konami Castlevania game. How can a director of a select few games in a very large series, come along well over a decade after the series was first launched and say that a particular game, or games, since he has recanted more than one, isn't cannon anymore?
In the series of Castlevania gaming, those games do exist. I own them. I still play them on occasion. I can assure you they exist.
Question: Does CotM exist in Iga's 'official' timeline?
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My take:
Legends is an official Konami Castlevania game. How can a director of a select few games in a very large series, come along well over a decade after the series was first launched and say that a particular game, or games, since he has recanted more than one, isn't cannon anymore?
Konami has given him permission to do so
In the series of Castlevania gaming, those games do exist. I own them. I still play them on occasion. I can assure you they exist.
Exactly. But for storyline purposes, they mean squat :P
Question: Does CotM exist in Iga's 'official' timeline?
Nope. Though, as you said, you can still own it and play it on occasion. Doesn't matter if it's part of the official story or not.
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Konami has given him permission to do so
Exactly. But for storyline purposes, they mean squat
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Those are good points, although I will say this -- he can proclaim those great games never happened, and he can "officially" turn Simon into a pink-haired tranny, but in terms of sheer good old fashioned Castlevania gameplay (anyone remember that?) CotM beats out DoS, AoS, HoD, and PoR. ;D
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In Reply To #60
I liked the new Simon.
CotM is merely CoD's older 2D brother; bland muddy backgrounds combined with a gimmicky system paired with with uninspired level design. I found the gameplay to be clunky and ho-hum.
I vastly prefer HoD, AoS, the DS games, and its handheld predecessors save for Legends over it.
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You can villianise IGA and Ayami Kojima for whatever imagined faults, but IGA has never liked the timeline. I have no idea why bash a guy who somewhat agrees with you.
I looked over my posts and couldn't find where I bashed (or villianized) Iga or Ayami Kojima.
Let's not misconstrue criticism with personal attacks, now.
And somewhat agrees with me on what, exactly?
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In Reply To #62
Personal attacks? Please. Don't be so sensitive.
You stated that "and he can "officially" turn Simon into a pink-haired tranny" which is why I stated I thought Kojima's Simon redesign did justice to the original character. And you somehow try to make a point that her redesign affects CotM's standing amongst the other Castlevania handhelds...
Also, you're making the same old complaints about IGA retconning CotM in a thread where that issue cropped up once and is quite off-topic regarding the thread itself.
Well, he isn't forcing you to not play CotM. KCEK's games were made from the gaiden viewpoint, so their place in the canon was in doubt to begin with. Not that canon is really important in this series.
And IGA stated that it was a mistake to release the timeline due to micromanaging what's official and what isn't, as evidenced by disputes on this board about which version of Richter's journey can be considered the legitimate one.
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In Reply To #1
halle belmont ;D
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In Reply To #62
Personal attacks? Please. Don't be so sensitive.
Haha@me being sensitive.
You claimed I bashed Iga and "villainized" Ayami Kojima. I never even mentioned her.
In Reply To #62You stated that "and he can "officially" turn Simon into a pink-haired tranny" which is why I stated I thought Kojima's Simon redesign did justice to the original character. And you somehow try to make a point that her redesign affects CotM's standing amongst the other Castlevania handhelds...
Noooo, I was being a little sarcastic, and yes a bit critical of the overall changes that he has made to the series, and that, in my personal opinion CotM is a great game and doesn't really deserve to be removed from the official timeline.
Having honest, personal criticism of the direction in which he has taken the series isn't bashing Mr. Iagarashi.
I'm sure there are a few who agree with my opinion that unofficial CotM is superior in terms of gameplay to its successors, and deserves more respect (acknowledgement) than what Iga would give it.
I'm sure there are many such as yourself who would disagree, which I think is great. The world would be a boring place if everyone agreed on everything.
Also, you're making the same old complaints about IGA retconning CotM in a thread where that issue cropped up once and is quite off-topic regarding the thread itself.
And you're making the same old complaints about me making the same old complaints... and it's quite off-topic regarding the thread itself.
Well, he isn't forcing you to not play CotM.
Thank you, Captain Obvious. ;)
KCEK's games were made from the gaiden viewpoint, so their place in the canon was in doubt to begin with. Not that canon is really important in this series.
I know nothing about "the gaiden viewpoint." Further, what's important and what's unimportant in this series is purely subjective.
Obviously it's important to some fans (myself included) or they wouldn't be debating it.
And IGA stated that it was a mistake to release the timeline due to micromanaging what's official and what isn't....
And he is right that it was mistake.
I apologize to the original poster if my ramblings are off-topic. I will shut up now.
Back to the subject of "if there was a female Belmont."
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In Reply To #65
You claimed I bashed Iga and "villainized" Ayami Kojima. I never even mentioned her.
Uh...I just pointed out where you did. Except you gave IGA that credit of redesigning Simon. Like I said, you placed Kojima's redesign as a reason that the games have suffered and CotM's standing has been affected, which makes little to no sense, sarcastic or not.
Noooo, I was being a little sarcastic, and yes a bit critical of the overall changes that he has made to the series, and that, in my personal opinion CotM is a great game and doesn't really deserve to be removed from the official timeline.
Having honest, personal criticism of the direction in which he has taken the series isn't bashing Mr. Iagarashi.
I'm sure there are a few who agree with my opinion that unofficial CotM is superior in terms of gameplay to its successors, and deserves more respect (acknowledgement) than what Iga would give it.
I'm sure there are many such as yourself who would disagree, which I think is great. The world would be a boring place if everyone agreed on everything.
CotM isn't unofficial, just not in the canon. That isn't uncommon (see the PS2 Contra games.) CotM is popular by itself, so I don't think it's 'disrespected' by the CV community. You made your feelings clear on CotM; so did I.
And you're making the same old complaints about me making the same old complaints... and it's quite off-topic regarding the thread itself.
Parroting what I say doesn't make a point.
Thank you, Captain Obvious.
How mature. You're welcome. I figured you needed the help, considering you've been acting as if you couldn't play it unless it was official. ;)
I know nothing about "the gaiden viewpoint." Further, what's important and what's unimportant in this series is purely subjective.
Obviously it's important to some fans (myself included) or they wouldn't be debating it.
If the timeline, as I was referring to, was important, then CotM contradicts SotN, the retconned 64 games, and the predetermined events of Bram Stoker's Dracula. In your case, I'd say that's quite relevant and the underlining reason for its retcon.
Just because a game is retconned makes no testament to its gameplay or funfactor, that I imagine we both agree with. If you like it and you feel it deserves to be canonized, fine. Understand that IGA was uncomfortable with it's standing, it was retconned for that purpose alone, and that he now regrets it.
If you believe that much in CotM, well, I guess arguing back and forth won't help anything. I see I might as well bow down to your massive e-penis, so to avert a senseless flame war I'll say even though it contradicts the games that came before and after it, it should be in the timeline.
I, too, apologize for the derailing of this topic.
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In Reply To #65 Uh...I just pointed out where you did.
Maybe I did, but I don't see it that way. It wasn't my intention to bash or attack anyone with my sarcastic comment(s) about the direction the series has gone.
Except you gave IGA that credit of redesigning Simon.
Well the buck stops with Iga, is my point. I respectfully disagree that Chronicles Simon is faithful to the original, but I don't fault Kojima for her work (while not very Simon-esque, is still a great illustration).
The Chroncles Simon illustration had to cross Iga's desk at some point, and he had to OK it as the official game art.
Like I said, you placed Kojima's redesign as a reason that the games have suffered and CotM's standing has been affected, which makes little to no sense, sarcastic or not.
That wasn't my intention. I meant to make a generalized, overall critique on the direction the series is going by bringing up changes that Iga has made, changes that in my personal opinion stray from the very core of what made the series so great (and again, in my opinion).
One of the things IMHO that made the older series so enjoyable for me wasn't official continuity, but a diversity in terms of games. Each game had its own unique personality -- not that the handheld Igavanias don't have thier own personalities, but there is a big difference in CV1, CV2, CV3, SCV4, Bloodlines, Rondo, the N64 games, SotN, CotM, and the x86 game.
Each game was more significantly different because they had different direction from the other, and challenges, unlike the Igavania handheld titles which are undeniably more SotN in story, graphics, and gameplay.
While CotM also rehashes the nonlinear SotN formula to a certain degree, at least it was exceedingly challenging at times. It took some effort to actually complete.
And while SotN is one of my favorite games, some 10 years later I think it's time to revisit elements that made the original series so great, rather than continue to rehash the SotN formula (and publicly retcon great, unique games created by other developers).
I criticize the direction of the new games only because I love the old series so much. As a Castlevania fan, I want an entirely new game released for a modern system that returns to the roots of Castlevania, the way Mario, Zelda, Contra, Metroid (etc.) fans get theirs.
The Rondo remake was a nice offering, though.
Parroting what I say doesn't make a point.
How mature. You're welcome. I figured you needed the help, considering you've been acting as if you couldn't play it unless it was official.
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Back on topic people. Now you're flaming.
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In Reply To #65
CotM isn't unofficial, just not in the canon. That isn't uncommon (see the PS2 Contra games.) CotM is popular by itself, so I don't think it's 'disrespected' by the CV community. You made your feelings clear on CotM; so did I.
I think you mean the ps1 contra games since the ps2 Contra games are still canon according to the timeline history in Contra 4.
Anyways, as for the topic question, how about Regina Belmont or a Belmont female named afte3r Syphia.
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Has anyone said Joanne (little salute to Joan d'Arc), or Cynthia, Eva (Evelyn)? I can think of quite a few names for kick-ass Belmont women (I can think of quite a few kick-ass designs too that aren't overly damsel in distress or portrays them as being merely sex objects).
EDIT: Few more: Erika, Althea, Dora, Erin? Amanda, Madeline, Meris, Katrina, Catherine, Francesca(sp?)...
When I think of more I will post them.
EDIT: Valeria? Victoria? Rose/Rosa, Natasha...
Woops Sarah was one of the poll choices. *removes that*