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Title: Possible reason why Soma wasn't in Castlevania Judgement
Post by: darkwzrd4 on February 05, 2009, 02:21:45 AM
I was thinking recently and something occurred to me.  There is a good reason why Soma may have been omitted from Judgment.  For those who may not remember, when Soma is in a dangerous situation his "power of dominance" awakens allowing him to absorb the souls of the monsters he slays and thus gains their powers.  However, when the situation is resolved, the souls are released and he loses the abilities he absorbed.

Because of this, Soma could have been omitted.  After all, he would have any powers.  The only way it would work is if he was transported to the area the game takes place in during either of his adventures.  Considering that this is unlikely, I doubt Soma could work as a character for Castlevania Judgment.
Title: Re: Possible reason why Soma wasn't in Castlevania Judgement
Post by: A n t r a x x on February 05, 2009, 02:44:21 AM
Soma should've been in it.  Who cares about the story.
Title: Re: Possible reason why Soma wasn't in Castlevania Judgement
Post by: Clara E. Leet on February 05, 2009, 11:46:50 AM
*sigh* There's always bitching in a fighting game. There's no way they can please everyone.

"Why can't Soma be in it?"
*Soma gets put in*
"Well dammit, if Soma's in, Julius HAS to be in it! Who's Soma's adversary gonna be?!"
*Julius gets put in*
"How come Yoko doesn't get any love?!"

See the pattern?
Title: Re: Possible reason why Soma wasn't in Castlevania Judgement
Post by: True Sorrow on February 05, 2009, 01:57:41 PM
Well, if he was pulled in there, isn't it very likely that his powers of dominance would awaken due to the impending danger, anyway?
Title: Re: Possible reason why Soma wasn't in Castlevania Judgement
Post by: silvermoonlight on February 05, 2009, 03:42:20 PM


Only because if he was in he'd smite Aeon for looking so darn similar.
"Y-you... STOLE MY STYLE!!! *pounce* RAAAAAARWRGH!!"

Besides, would we get to see the anime soma or the original one? And more importantly, would his coat be furry like in AOS? :P
Title: Re: Possible reason why Soma wasn't in Castlevania Judgement
Post by: Battler Ushiromiya on February 05, 2009, 04:43:50 PM
If he had been in it, his design would have likely been a mix of his AoS and DoS designs. Which could turn out pretty cool looking, IMO. I always hated his disco boots in AoS...
Title: Re: Possible reason why Soma wasn't in Castlevania Judgement
Post by: shelverton. on February 05, 2009, 08:01:41 PM
If he had been in it, his design would have likely been a mix of his AoS and DoS designs. Which could turn out pretty cool looking, IMO. I always hated his disco boots in AoS...

Well, hardly any of the characters in Judgment were even remotely recognizable, so Soma could've looked like absolutely anyone. Or anything. But yeah, AoS-Soma wasn't the greatest design ever... his pants were positively embarrasing.  :o
Title: Re: Possible reason why Soma wasn't in Castlevania Judgement
Post by: A n t r a x x on February 06, 2009, 03:30:19 AM
The fur coat would have to be a must :D
Title: Re: Possible reason why Soma wasn't in Castlevania Judgement
Post by: Blue Cheese on February 07, 2009, 10:17:41 AM
Soma and Dracula being in the same room would cause a temporal paradox that would collapse the universe. 
Title: Re: Possible reason why Soma wasn't in Castlevania Judgement
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on February 07, 2009, 11:43:21 AM
Yeah Aeon would not allow it.
"Time was on the verge of being destroyed"
Title: Re: Possible reason why Soma wasn't in Castlevania Judgement
Post by: Battler Ushiromiya on February 07, 2009, 09:48:37 PM
In Reply To #9

Notice the universe doesn't collapse when two Aeons fight each other? The universe should be able to handle Drac and Soma in the same room, then. ;)
Title: Re: Possible reason why Soma wasn't in Castlevania Judgement
Post by: Raphael Belmont on February 07, 2009, 11:18:42 PM
bc he TOTALLY SUCKS.the end.

Title: Re: Possible reason why Soma wasn't in Castlevania Judgement
Post by: Battler Ushiromiya on February 08, 2009, 04:12:33 AM
In Reply To #12

...Boy, did you just say Soma sucks?

Someone grab the rope, we're gonna have a lynching tonight!
Title: Re: Possible reason why Soma wasn't in Castlevania Judgement
Post by: Raphael Belmont on February 08, 2009, 08:57:51 AM
In Reply To #13

i just think he is childish and has the silliest story ever...and not even Julius saved those games...sorry, it just doesn't fit right for a Castlevania game...
Title: Re: Possible reason why Soma wasn't in Castlevania Judgement
Post by: Battler Ushiromiya on February 08, 2009, 06:19:19 PM
AoS's story wasn't THAT bad. THough DoS's was. Hell, PoR had a better story than DoS.

Aaaaaaaand here comes a Soma fanboi to lynch me. Gotta go!
Title: Re: Possible reason why Soma wasn't in Castlevania Judgement
Post by: Battler Ushiromiya on February 09, 2009, 01:27:30 PM
In Reply To #16

Sucky? What the hell are you smoking? Soma's one of the most broken characters in the series. And Ridiculous? Only if you think plot twists in general are ridiculous, in which case I bet you hate No More Heroes or the Tales games.
Title: Re: Possible reason why Soma wasn't in Castlevania Judgement
Post by: DoctaMario on February 09, 2009, 03:23:38 PM
I dont' think Soma's that great of a character, but it would have been interesting to see him in Judgment. He could have been a Shang Tsung type of character who could have used everyone else's moves.
Title: Re: Possible reason why Soma wasn't in Castlevania Judgement
Post by: Battler Ushiromiya on February 09, 2009, 11:17:27 PM
In Reply To #19

Soma's about as effeminate as any other Castlevania main that Kojima did the art for. Hell, he's manlier than her Simon, that's for sure...
Title: Re: Possible reason why Soma wasn't in Castlevania Judgement
Post by: E. Alexer Belmont on February 10, 2009, 06:04:14 AM
Character hating & faboyism

Even stupidest than the Symphony/IGAvanias ones
Title: Re: Possible reason why Soma wasn't in Castlevania Judgement
Post by: Battler Ushiromiya on February 10, 2009, 02:20:15 PM
In Reply To #21

Bellbottoms are better than hooker boots and a woman's jacket is better than tight black leather outfits with extra feathery boas.

Face it, Kojima's style just makes characters look feminine, no matter what gender they are.
Title: Re: Possible reason why Soma wasn't in Castlevania Judgement
Post by: Ahasverus on February 10, 2009, 07:55:29 PM
Quote
Soma's about as effeminate as any other Castlevania main that Kojima did the art for. Hell, he's manlier than her Simon, that's for sure...
Do you know what that happened?
Because Soma was supossed to be a woman but IGA changed it at last moment. Kojima had already the final design for her, so she just got out the long hair and the bress and: Tata! there was born Soma.


And I'm not joking, that was true!
Title: Re: Possible reason why Soma wasn't in Castlevania Judgement
Post by: uzo on February 10, 2009, 09:46:22 PM
In Reply To #23

Julius and his manly facial hair disagree.
Title: Re: Possible reason why Soma wasn't in Castlevania Judgement
Post by: A n t r a x x on February 10, 2009, 10:05:48 PM
In Reply To #13

i just think he is childish and has the silliest story ever...and not even Julius saved those games...


It's true: he was a whiny prick, but the plot device of potentially becoming Dracula was different.

Mostly I just want him there because he was very powerful, and think how they could use the DOMINANCE thing during a fight (could steal people's powers).
Title: Re: Possible reason why Soma wasn't in Castlevania Judgement
Post by: shelverton. on February 11, 2009, 04:42:51 PM

Soooo, Soma sucks because he wears a womans jacket and is effeminate? I fail to see the connection, but whatever...  LOL @ Castlevania fans and their obsession with MANLY men....
Title: Re: Possible reason why Soma wasn't in Castlevania Judgement
Post by: Bizarro Belmont on February 11, 2009, 04:53:24 PM
I thought this game was supposed to cater to old school fans in some vague way, with Aeon being there as a newbie and Shanoa there to cash in on OoE. Like 1980s-1990s. Or to be on a stupid note, Legends ov Castlevania.

Soma isn't that old as far as I know, unless you count 6 years as roughly 60, You goddamn hipsterhead.
Title: Re: Possible reason why Soma wasn't in Castlevania Judgement
Post by: Ahasverus on February 11, 2009, 08:45:53 PM
Soma isn't Jappanese xD
Title: Re: Possible reason why Soma wasn't in Castlevania Judgement
Post by: darkwzrd4 on February 11, 2009, 09:25:56 PM
Actually, I heard that in the Japanese version he is.  For some reason the versions outside of Japan refer to him as an exchange student living in Japan.  However, it would make more sense if he actually was Japanese.  After all, Mina who seems to be his closest friend lives in Japan and they seem to have known each other for many years.  It's most likely that either a mistake or intended change occurred when the game was translated from Japanese.
Title: Re: Possible reason why Soma wasn't in Castlevania Judgement
Post by: A n t r a x x on February 11, 2009, 10:40:01 PM
Who's to say we DON'T dress like that in 20 years?
Title: Re: Possible reason why Soma wasn't in Castlevania Judgement
Post by: shelverton. on February 12, 2009, 04:35:33 PM
Geez...I'm not asking for the characters to be super macho men but at least have them wear the appropriate clothing and act the part.

Call me weird (or just european if you will), but I don't think it's inappropriate for guys to wear women's clothing  ;D Not that Soma is actually wearing a dress or anything. (though that would've been rather interesting).
Title: Re: Possible reason why Soma wasn't in Castlevania Judgement
Post by: Dracula Cruz on February 13, 2009, 09:15:34 PM
In Reply To #13

 >:( I'm with you there; I call front row seats!! ;D

Hmmmmm... now that i think on it, Soma's "dominance" kinda reminds me of Kirby in a way...
Title: Re: Possible reason why Soma wasn't in Castlevania Judgement
Post by: Ahasverus on February 13, 2009, 11:44:18 PM
Still, The Soma thing is just matter of artwork, the character, inside, is qute interesting :)