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Title: What if...(a plot twist)
Post by: Oralox on April 15, 2009, 02:48:45 PM
Dracula gains control of the whip?
Like in the 1999 game

remember julius loses his whip during that time

So could Dracula actually figure out a way to some how obtain it and use it by possessing it?
Title: Re: What if...(a plot twist)
Post by: Battler Ushiromiya on April 15, 2009, 03:43:24 PM
In Reply To #1

Maybe that's how Julius got his hands on the whip? Maybe he snatched it bac from Drac?
Title: Re: What if...(a plot twist)
Post by: Super Waffle on April 15, 2009, 03:58:34 PM
Short of a really, really huge retcon, wouldn't simply holding the whip pretty much vaporize Dracula's current incarnation instantly?

Being an object of pure blessed holy power and whatnot.
Title: Re: What if...(a plot twist)
Post by: Battler Ushiromiya on April 15, 2009, 04:23:00 PM
Short of a really, really huge retcon, wouldn't simply holding the whip pretty much vaporize Dracula's current incarnation instantly?

Being an object of pure blessed holy power and whatnot.
Ah, touche. Yeah, if there's gonna be a plot twist, it probably shouldn't involve Dracula holding the VK.
Title: Re: What if...(a plot twist)
Post by: darkwzrd4 on April 15, 2009, 04:54:27 PM
Dracula gains control of the whip?
Like in the 1999 game

remember julius loses his whip during that time

So could Dracula actually figure out a way to some how obtain it and use it by possessing it?
First of all, Drac wouldn't be able to hold it and secondly Julius didn't lose the whip.  He just sealed it in the castle to weaken the spirit of castle.
Title: Re: What if...(a plot twist)
Post by: Oralox on April 16, 2009, 12:30:47 AM
You guys are not understanding what I am saying.

What if drac gets the whip possessed or violated with dark power that will enable him to take it?
What would happen then?
Title: Re: What if...(a plot twist)
Post by: gravekeeper on April 16, 2009, 02:57:41 AM
In Reply To #6

Hm.. the vampire killer is effective against darkness. So if the whip instead went dark, it would be effective against the Belmonts. Everything would be reversed. BUT wouldn't that mean the whip would be weak against Alucard and he could just.. take it back to the Belmonts..? XD I don't think it would matter anyway. With whip of darkness or not, Dracula would still get his ass kicked since whoever slays him doesn't nessesarily need the vampire killer.

That would be my conclusion though. If something as terrible as the vampire killer being stolen would happen - Alucard to the rescue!
Title: Re: What if...(a plot twist)
Post by: Nazrath on April 16, 2009, 08:21:07 AM
If something as terrible as the vampire killer being stolen would happen - Alucard to the rescue!

I thought if anyone was to use it, Alucard might be able to due to being a half-breed and being "pure of heart" and all that lark. Although I don't think he'd look as good with a whip, unless maybe 'twas something akin to barbed-wire. ;)
Title: Re: What if...(a plot twist)
Post by: Oralox on April 16, 2009, 01:51:12 PM
Hmm...then drac's chooool WHhooiipp whill bhe called Vampire Killer Killer!

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Drac you're a king and crap...man im just a big stupid mooch.
Title: Re: What if...(a plot twist)
Post by: Alutwon on April 16, 2009, 01:53:38 PM
Everyone and their grandma kills Dracula nowadays. I enjoyed how Shanoa couldn't do it. If you guys want a real plot twist how about you get killed by Dracula at the end of the game but you get to see the current Belmont pick up the slack. He'd better be cool dammit.
Title: Re: What if...(a plot twist)
Post by: Super Waffle on April 17, 2009, 12:34:37 AM
You guys are not understanding what I am saying.

I think you're not understanding that explaining how Dracula would suddenly be able to corrupt or destroy an object of God--the very thing that's immune to his influence and weakness him--would be fairly complicated, and can't just happen because it's a "cool" plot device.

But just to humor the idea, if Dracula had the ability to mend something as powerful as the Vampire Killer for his own hands, what would be keeping him from just jumping over the Belmont roadblock entirely and destroying the Church head-on with its own weapons?
Title: Re: What if...(a plot twist)
Post by: Battler Ushiromiya on April 17, 2009, 05:45:49 AM
In Reply To #11

Except Superboy DOES develop an immunity to Kryptonite. :/
Title: Re: What if...(a plot twist)
Post by: Oralox on April 17, 2009, 10:56:57 AM
In Reply To #11

lol dude
Nah You're still not understanding what I am saying.

What if IGA said
"Nah!!! Just do it guys it will be AWESOME!!"

"But Boss what if the fans complain?"

IGA:*Doesn't listen*

IGA:"Just do as I say mmk!"
Title: Re: What if...(a plot twist)
Post by: Battler Ushiromiya on April 17, 2009, 11:56:34 AM
In Reply To #13

Too bad IGA actually cares about the series.

...In his own twisted way...
Title: Re: What if...(a plot twist)
Post by: Super Waffle on April 17, 2009, 03:16:11 PM
Except Superboy DOES develop an immunity to Kryptonite. :/

Let me guess:
Title: Re: What if...(a plot twist)
Post by: Oralox on April 17, 2009, 03:29:46 PM



I already acknowledged it would take a giant retcon.
Paul Anderson'd!
Title: Re: What if...(a plot twist)
Post by: Battler Ushiromiya on April 17, 2009, 04:48:49 PM
In Reply To #15

Not sure, since I only read the summary. However, Superboy practically had no weaknesses before that anyways (Magic barely affected him and red suns don't affect him at all.) Then again, maybe it was that he was no longer affected by Kryptonite, because I think I remember there being something in Infinite Crisis about his Krypton never exploding to begin with, thus no Kryptonite to affect him.

...Oh, yeah, thought I should probably mention this is Superboy Prime, not the Superboy from the Teen Titans.
Title: Re: What if...(a plot twist)
Post by: Super Waffle on April 17, 2009, 05:22:03 PM
Superboy Prime

Oh, the American comic book version of Shinn Asuka.  I've heard of him.

Seems I was right about the "incomprehensibly retarded storytelling" category.
Title: Re: What if...(a plot twist)
Post by: Battler Ushiromiya on April 18, 2009, 11:29:59 AM
In Reply To #18

Nah, Shinn's too big of a pussy to be Superboy Prime. I think a better comparison would be if Kira Zeus Yamato turned evil.