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The Castlevania Dungeon Forums => General Castlevania Discussion => Topic started by: darkwzrd4 on January 15, 2010, 01:46:48 AM
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Do you think that there should be another "Sorrow" CV game staring Soma? One that actually gives a sense of finality with Soma. In other words, a game that puts an end to the question of whether Soma will become the Dark Lord or not. Keep in mind that DoS doesn't count and didn't add anything to the overall CV story.
What are your opinions?
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Ill say yes and not in the form of the 1999 game because that could count as a prequel to sorrow.
But yes I would like to see something that adds to the story and whether or not Soma actually becomes the next Dark Lord, Dracula Returns, or Galamoth showing up. I would like something that advances the story of Castlevania.
DoS is right below CoD on my worst Castlevania list.
Also great poll question wizard.
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The Sorrow novel about Curtis Lang, Grant's ancestor(I forget her name), and Orlok would be nice as a game. Well, the idea is nice(stray away from both Soma and a Belmont hero), but I can't say how the novel went, because it will most likely always be an untranslated mystery to us. I'll admit, the idea of Julius training Curtis as his apprentice, and Orlok gaining dominion over Dracula's Castle interests me. I've always loved the character of Graf Orlok(hehe, Olrox). It would be a nice change because we would be spared of using the soul system YET AGAIN. I don't think I'd be able to play Soma for a third time.
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I think there should be a continuation of the castlevania series in general but I think soma's days as a hero were not meant to be. He is the reincarnate of Dracula who's been given a second chance to live a normal life outside of the realm of chaos and that's how it should stay. In terms of the continual fight against evil we still have Julius, Yoko and Alucard to fill those roles. I didn't mind the soul stealing in AoS but in DoS it was almost too, TOO unbearable as you had to use the souls to make weapons rather then finding them. And you only got one soul from a boss which meant that you had to play through the game a second time in order to get all the weapons forged. Blech :P
A continuation of the series without Soma is fine by me. Let's give the tired kid a rest. After all the hundreds of years of pain and suffering he had to go through, I'd feel tired too.
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One thing I want to ask, drk wizard will have to answer this no doubt, are we talking about another sorrow game or just a continuation picking up where Aria left off. Because if we are talking about another sorrow game I do believe there should be characters from Aria present though I would prefer not to play as Soma again. Or are we talking about a continuation of the series picking up where sorrow left off?
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I'd say where sorrow left off. And it would be a sequel to DoS because there's still Julius, Yoko and Alucard who are AoS and DoS characters. Soma and Mina could be mentioned but I would like to give the kid a break. I'm sure he would too.
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No
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Judging from your cut-throat, straight-to-the-point answer I'd say that you're a Soma fan, right? I don't mind him myself since I had always wnted to know what it would be like to play as Dracula if you could. (This was during the late 80's mind you)
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I'd say where sorrow left off. And it would be a sequel to DoS because there's still Julius, Yoko and Alucard who are AoS and DoS characters. Soma and Mina could be mentioned but I would like to give the kid a break. I'm sure he would too.
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Yeah I like the idea of incorperating the novel since soma is just a backdrop character. I also would like to see Hammer in it. His gameplay could be an ode to contra lol runnin and gunnin.
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Judging from your cut-throat, straight-to-the-point answer I'd say that you're a Soma fan, right? I don't mind him myself since I had always wnted to know what it would be like to play as Dracula if you could. (This was during the late 80's mind you)
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I wish I could agree with you, but in my mind, Soma =/= Dracula, and he never will.
It's more than just Soma, though. While the soul system was a great refresh for the Metroidvania strain, I don't think I could spend hours and hours grinding for souls again. Now, if we played as Julius, Yoko, Arikado, etc, that MIGHT be different, but then it's not really a Sorrow game, is it? I'd have to say if those characters appeared again, it would need to be the 1999 game. Anything after just seems like an overuse of characters. I mean, really, how often is this band of heroes going to have to fight Dracula's power before it gets ridiculous? Even Simon Belmont only fought Dracula twice.
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I've thought the soul system has room for one more try, but only in a 3D game. I'd like to see an older, "meaner", bitter, and somewhat bad-ass Soma as the hero, perhaps mourning the loss of poor Mina, but somehow "barely" able to maintain himself (perhaps with the assistance of Mina's Talisman). And then comes along the next Castle challenge, perhaps from Orlox, that Soma has to take despite the risk of losing himself.
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That's an interesting concept :)
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Well, yes.
But the game would have to starr a much older, grittier Soma on his final quest to get rid of his "curse". Of course, it would end with him becoming Dracula anyway, possibly killing off all humans and destroying the entire world. ;D Nah, but really... he should become Dracula in the proper ending, and then the last Belmont EVAH will go in and kill him in a way that makes sure Dracula never rises again. The Belmont person could possibly die too. 8) That would be a nice conclusion to the IGA storyline. Dracula AND the Belmont clan gone forever. Besides, I wouldn't want the series to continue off any further into the future... the year 2036 was bad as it was.
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Death should really take a good effort at bringing Soma to chaos's side (instead of just "being" there). From what little I know of the novel, he's pretty ticked off at Orlox for fighting against both humanity and chaos. He could be pretty desperate get Soma to defeat or better yet replace Orlox. He could probably reuse his Zead persona to manipulate Soma into doing what he wants him to, which would be a great tie-back to an earlier 3D game.
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That sounds like a great idea for a final game for a sorrow trilogy.
I'd love to see Zead in 'modern' clothing.
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I would REALLY like a remake of Aria of Sorrow.
That castle was like the second best castle to sotn from the gameboy--ds games.. Imo
IGA and his team didn't get into his copy paste habbits as much. Now even his 2d games are getting more and more repetitive.
Either way Aria of sorrow had such an interesting take on the story and the graphics are a bit out of date, so I could imagine a remake of that being really cool..
Otherwise no we don't need a new one, I say they could just make a castlevania late in the timeline and have soma as dracula at the end and that could be its conclusion not having a game staring him.
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One thing I want to ask, drk wizard will have to answer this no doubt, are we talking about another sorrow game or just a continuation picking up where Aria left off. Because if we are talking about another sorrow game I do believe there should be characters from Aria present though I would prefer not to play as Soma again. Or are we talking about a continuation of the series picking up where sorrow left off?
If by sorrow, you mean the novel, I don't know, because I know little about it. What I mean was picking up the story where AoS left off (I want DoS to be removed from the time line and forget it ever existed) and moving on with the story. While Soma would be one of the characters, he may or may not be who you play as. For example, the story could go as follows:
Soma is kidnapped or Mina is kidnapped and Soma is badly injured. Considering the threat and Julius is to old, Alucard and/or Yoko must stop the threat (who could be anyone). In the end, Soma will either turn evil and become the Dark Lord, someone will find a way to permanently seal Soma's powers thus eliminating the threat of the dark lord until after soma's death, or something else entirely happens. Regardless, it will be the last game with Soma.
Something like that. I hope that clarifies the original post.
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If by sorrow, you mean the novel, I don't know, because I know little about it. What I mean was picking up the story where AoS left off (I want DoS to be removed from the time line and forget it ever existed) and moving on with the story. While Soma would be one of the characters, he may or may not be who you play as. For example, the story could go as follows:
Soma is kidnapped or Mina is kidnapped and Soma is badly injured. Considering the threat and Julius is to old, Alucard and/or Yoko must stop the threat (who could be anyone). In the end, Soma will either turn evil and become the Dark Lord, someone will find a way to permanently seal Soma's powers thus eliminating the threat of the dark lord until after soma's death, or something else entirely happens. Regardless, it will be the last game with Soma.
Something like that. I hope that clarifies the original post.
I can see that working out pretty well. Dont really know of what to add to it right now but I'm sure I'll think of something. It would be interesting to actually go on with the story and reintroduce either Dracula or a new villian instead of waiting around to see if and how Dracula returns or if Soma becomes evil or if a new villian appears.
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The bad ending of Dawn should have been the real ending of Soma mode, leading to Julius mode as the canon ending of the story for that game. And, Soma should have never been a jap.
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The bad ending of Dawn should have been the real ending of Soma mode, leading to Julius mode as the canon ending of the story for that game. And, Soma should have never been a jap.
I thought he was a foreign exchange student living in japan. His last name is spanish.
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I asked that question myself but according to the official Japanese story he's Japanese and not an exchange student as the American audiences were lead to believe. :P
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I asked that question myself but according to the official Japanese story he's Japanese and not an exchange student as the American audiences were lead to believe. :P
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Why is it they can't just put that in the american manual I mean seriously its not that hard to translate something like that. No wonder everything is so damn fucked up and unclear.
Fucking japanese developers....
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Why is it they can't just put that in the american manual I mean seriously its not that hard to translate something like that. No wonder everything is so damn fucked up and unclear.
Fucking japanese developers....
Don't blame them. Blame the translators who translate the games from Japanese into other languages. They shouldn't make changes like that. And yes, I don't think that Soma should have been Japanese. Though I'm not surprised that a Japanese game company would use the opportunity to make the reincarnation of one of the characters Japanese. If it was an American company, Soma would probably been American.
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Don't blame them. Blame the translators who translate the games from Japanese into other languages. They shouldn't make changes like that. And yes, I don't think that Soma should have been Japanese. Though I'm not surprised that a Japanese game company would use the opportunity to make the reincarnation of one of the characters Japanese. If it was an American company, Soma would probably been American.
Damn translators they could at least do their jobs right...and yeah I agree Soma should not have been Japanese and you are probably right he probably would have been American if an American company did the game. It makes more since for him to be European least to me.