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The Castlevania Dungeon Forums => General Castlevania Discussion => Topic started by: Belmont Stakes on June 17, 2010, 05:43:53 AM
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According to Wikipedia, Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time has grossed 264 million in the box office. I have not seen it but judging from the trailer the movie looked pretty good to me and it did not seem to be half heartedly put together. It looks like they put a genuine effort to stay close to what the video game is. Who here has seen the movie and thought it was good? Also if you thought that it was a well done film does it give you any sort of hope now that if Castlevania the movie is made that it can be and will be done with the same loyalty of transitioning a video game into a believable on screen experience.
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I have seen it and i can tell you that it was more from what i was expecting to see!!!! I recommend you to see it!!!! ;D
Now about if Castlevania movie is going to be better than this one or even, i really don't think so....... :P
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Ive seen it too and I really liked it. It didnt really follow the game at all but it was still good. No idea if a CV movie would be atleast as good. Guess it all depends
The guy that directed The Losers was set to direct CV at one point but all anyone did was make fun of him for Stomp The Yard... and Losers turned out to be DAMN good and pretty well rated
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I liked it, but I think it would have been better if it had stuck a little close to the game's plot.
No sand Zombies = phail.
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Viewed SoT a few weeks back, and felt very confident in regards to the film adaptation.
Even though it went to a different path story wise, it was still an exciting chapter.
Although I do agree, it would have faired differently if there were sand monsters. But its a start!
(*honestly I think Sands was meant to be an origin tale, if the "monsters" were adapted; moreso in a sequel)
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I'm not super familiar with the games (have only seen gameplay vids over the years), but the PoP movie was excellent. Easily one of the best movies of the year so far. It worked on an action level, as well as story and character-relationship level.
I think Castlevania could work--but it needs to have a big budget and a tight plot.
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Ok, with that said any thoughts as to how the story would work, who would do the visuals and who would do the music to make this adaptation come across seamlessly? Is there even a story out there that would make not only an interesting and compelling CV game but also a movie? Could Lords of Shadow fit that bill?
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The Sands of Time was a good movie. Not much like the plot in the game, but still a very interesting and entertaining movie. :)
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The difference is that Jerry Brucheimer ensured this movie would be a hit, he had a huge budget and connections to real talent in the industry. Without him or Disney's backing, Castlevania would likely fail.
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I never did see PoP but I know someone who did. I asked them about it and they said to me it like watching Aladdin just with a few twists. Of course this is not unexpected since the original PoP game had an Aladden-looking hero who had to rescue a "princess" in a "palace" that was controled by an evil magician called [Drum roll] Jafar! And because the movie was done by Disney it only solidifies that fact :)
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I have to give props to Jake Gyllenhaal for playing Sands of Time while filming AND then insisting to the choreographer that he try to do some of the same moves.
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Ill say this... movie or no movie... if you havent played atleast Sands of Time you need to stop what your doin and go play it right now. Its very easily one of the best games in recent years
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i enjoyed the movie. wasn't blockbuster for me, but a fun watch. and that's all i need.
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No and NO.
Couldn't take the Prince being played by the whitest dude on the planet.
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well ya know the prince in the games isnt exactly a dark skinned fella
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I have very low expectations for a live-action Castlevania. I'm not sure I even want to dive into exactly why that is, because it'll quickly turn into a 'TLDR' rant. If they can pull off something that's even mediocre, I'll be surprised.
I'm just bummed that it seems the animated CV3 film(s) seemed to have fallen through. We haven't heard any news in a long time and the official blog seems to be down. I think that had potential to be legitimately awesome. It was going to fit into proper 'canon', but with more trustworthy writers and artists (imho) than Konami would've provided. (James Jean (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Jean), Warren Ellis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Ellis))
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I think it fell through cause they decided that grant wasn't a 'needed' or 'important' enough character for the script. Those guts should play the game at least once to get the idea right.
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The script was horrible and there were also condradictions because the script writer didn't even knew his source material properly. If would have he would have known that Grant is no pirate at all. Which he uses as excuse to omit his character. I so hope it is canned. *fingers crossed*
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Wow! People were that upset about Grant, huh? I'm not sure where to even begin on that.
It was revealed with further clarification that he would not appear in the first film. Since they were planning on doing two or three, I wouldn't see the need to have to wedge him into the first film either. Character recognition is always a cheap shill for fans, so the fact that they were concerned about making the story flow without too many convoluted details gave me the impression they were trying to make something of quality. Warren was being cynical about wedging a pirate-character into a landlocked setting... as they were concerned about making something tight, which is probably the last thing we should expect from any other VG adaptation.
Why put all your eggs in one basket as well? What would they have focussed on in those two other films? With the 'meet the characters along the way' style of CV3, it's perfectly reasonable that one of the characters would be... you know, met along the way. I've always wondered why people were so upset about his exclusion from (what would be) the first film.
Additionally, I guess you'll have to pardon my ignorance, but I thought Grant was a pirate as well. However, I think this should invalidate any silly remarks about how they 'should play the game' first. Because I've played the game, many times. I could tell you about how Sypha Belnades is actually spelled 'Syfa Velnumdes' in-game, and I have the sound test code memorized. ;) Yet somehow it escaped me that he wasn't a pirate. I know that his family were villagers killed by Dracula and / or Dracula's hordes. And that he possible came from a family that rivaled the Dracula royalty as well (based only on the name, not anything actually in-game or known canon). So, if someone can clarify his non-pirateness, that would be appreciated.
Perhaps I'm coming from a completely different perspective on an appreciation for the series, but I honestly thought that team and their mindset going in (from what we heard from the blog) was almost a *best* case scenario for a Castlevania adaptation. You had conscience people with a history of great work behind them. If the most banal complaints about the lack of Grant in the first film are enough for people to hope doom upon the project, good luck with the live action movie! ;)
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Well the English version of the game says he is a pirate while the Japanese one claims he is a freedom fighter. The writers should obviously go with the Japanese canon so I think its pretty dumb that Warren Ellis didn't even know this. I might not be a big deal but I don't really trust him to write a movie that would to both the game and the canon justice and that is what it's all about for me. :-\
I thought Grant was being cut permantely by the way. :-X
Also, I read that they were planning on naming him Granvid or some other stupid name because that would be more Romanian. But that is totally crap since the characters in the series never had any East European names so I don't see what the big deal is. Trevor/Ralph is an English name for crying out loud. *sob*
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It's also amusing to note that at the end credits for CV 3 (Japanese or English) Grant's profession is "Acrobat". But I still like the idea that he was a pirate since he looks like one in the game and in the official Konami art.
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Clearly he was an acrobatic, freedom fighting pirate. :)
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I know bucky is jokin but its still a good point. How many ppl spend their entire lives doin just 1 thing? Whos to say he wasnt a pirate and then retired from piracy and became a freedom fighter? Hell no one knows what Grant did before CV3 none of the chars were fleshed out before or during the game. Only Alucard went on to be "some one"
Grant coulda been an orphan that was raised in a traveling circus and one time doin a performance near the coast were beset by pirates and Grant was taken because of his skill so he could be the spotter guy cause he could climb the ropes the best and do all kinda crazy stuff. After he got older he fought his way from that life and decided to become a freedom fighter to help save ppl from bein forced into things like he was. Then he learns about the situation in Dracs land and heads to see if he can be any help and the rest is in CV3
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In the japanese translation of the game, Grant had revenge on his mind. All the people in the village were murdered by Dracula and this angered Grant. However he never got the chance to take revenge as Dracula turned him into that beast-like creature and stuffed him at the top of the clocktower. Grant has more then enough meret to be in that CV movie so I don't see any reason at all why the wrote him out. After all Grant is one of the four warriors who stood up to the Prince of Darkness.
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I saw the prince of persia movie and i thought it was alright, hopefully the new castlevania movie wont disappoint. 8)
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In the japanese translation of the game, Grant had revenge on his mind. All the people in the village were murdered by Dracula and this angered Grant. However he never got the chance to take revenge as Dracula turned him into that beast-like creature and stuffed him at the top of the clocktower. Grant has more then enough meret to be in that CV movie so I don't see any reason at all why the wrote him out. After all Grant is one of the four warriors who stood up to the Prince of Darkness.
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I'd be pissed too if a set of CV3 films didn't include Grant, but I think everyone leaped to conclusions and freaked out when he said Grant wasn't in the script. He was talking about part 1 / 3.
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Why a trilogy?
I spent a month or more pacing around the central problem of this film. Which is the format. 80 minutes. I knew, coming on board, that this was the format, and I liked it, because it was a technical challenge. But Kevin knew, when I came on board, that I wanted to write a film, not some by-the-numbers videogame adaptation. I wanted it to have some depth to it. I wanted to explore the environment of medieval Wallachia somewhat, I wanted the ordinary people to speak, I wanted a hint of feudal politics. And I wanted a vein of strangeness to it (also, an element of springpunky prochronism, which I’ll get to later).
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One big story, Castlevania III: Dracula’s Curse, told across three movies. Grant is not in the first movie. From Warren’s earlier post Cutting The Pirate, here it is again -
When he does turn up, I’ll probably use the alternate spelling of Grant DiNesti.
This is why I never understood what the big stink about Grant was. *shrugs*
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I had no idea, let alone heard about that interview *Whew!* That clears things up.
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