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The Castlevania Dungeon Forums => Hardcore Gaming 101 => Topic started by: shelverton. on September 15, 2010, 08:37:35 PM
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Well, Dante looks nothing like I remember him. So much for a proper Devil May Cry 5, I guess...
TGS 10: Debut Trailer HD - Devil May Cry (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/tgs-10-devil-may/704508)
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He looks retarded.... but hey, atleast he's not half naked and acting like a cocky lil biatch!
Still, it seems like a movie remake of a game... where instead of demons it's experiments... (hint hint Doom)
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I don't know much about the storyline in DMC, but it seems a bit desperate to reboot a series that only has 4 games. What's next, a Bayonetta reboot in 2011? ;D
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i have to say i don't like this change as a DMC fan. :-\
to drastically change such a established character such as Dante in the manner is just IMO so stupid.
DMC didn't NEED a freaken Reboot and Dante's character definitely didn't need one in this manner.
he looks like a recovering drug addict for christ sake! ;D
we'll some sites are calling this a prequel to the DMC series while some are calling it a complete reboot of the storyline.
what do you guys think?
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Maybe it's supposed to be a prequel to the other games, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was a complete reboot. This is after all the year of the reboot. It seems like developers are all about "FORGET EVERYTHING YOU KNOW!". Castlevania, Zelda (to some extent), Mega Man, Final Fantasy, Metroid and now Devil May Cry. All of them are not necessarily reboots, but they're changing.
Also, may I express my dislike towards the character designers at Ninja Theory? Heavenly Sword wasn't too bad in terms of the heroine design, but that new game Enslaved? I absolutely HATE the main character. Not only is he called "Monkey", but he's also the ugliest thing I have seen in many years. Therefor I am not surprised they've done this to Dante. Brown hair, no trenchcoat.... Hopefully the game will be fun, but the visual style is a real turn-off for me..
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He looks retarded.... but hey, atleast he's not half naked and acting like a cocky lil biatch!
You say that like it's a bad thing. Or at least worse than a cool urban and rebellious skinny lil biatch. They are both horrible.
though dmc1 dante is pretty much the superior version of dante anytime.
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we'll the action in the trailer look fantastic IMO.
more only real problem with that is the slower double guns as opposed to the fast shooting we DMC fans are so used to.
but to change such a Cool Character such as Dante from this
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to
this
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its just a stupid move on Capcom's part IMO.
i think Capcom would have pleased more fans if they actually kept the core Dante character instead of completely rebooting him.
at this point most of the feedback has been negative towards this new Dante so hopfully Capcom will listen to the fans for a change and tell Ninja theory to reconsider the look ;D
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hopfully Capcom will listen to the fans for a change and tell Ninja theory to reconsider the look ;D
That, or just name this character something else. I welcome new characters in already established franchises - heck, I even liked Nero (though he was arguably very Dante-ish anyway).
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Maybe you get to see this drugaddict Dante slowly change throughout the game and 'become' the Dante from part 1 near the end?
This guy looks a lot younger... maybe Dante had some issues when he was a punkass kid. :P
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Yeah, that is possible.
I do however get the feeling that this game takes place in a different world/universe altogether. I don't get the typical DMC world feeling at all. Dunno why.. :-\ Too early to tell though.
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Maybe you get to see this drugaddict Dante slowly change throughout the game and 'become' the Dante from part 1 near the end?
This guy looks a lot younger... maybe Dante had some issues when he was a punkass kid. :P
we'll he doesn't look to be to much younger then DMC3 Dante :-\
unless this takes place directly behind DMC3 i could see your theory maybe working
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WTF
This reimagined Dante looks lame as hell. I would't have minded another game featuring Nero (he is Vergil's son, after all) & real Dante. This could either be REALLY good, or take DMC2's place.
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WTF
This reimagined Dante looks lame as hell. I would't have minded another game featuring Nero (he is Vergil's son, after all) & real Dante. This could either be REALLY good, or take DMC2's place.
someone on another forum mentioned something that is truly something to think about if your Capcom and Ninja Theory.
there is a very valid reason why DMC2 was disliked by ALOT of DMC fans.
Dante's character may have looked ok but his attitude was so completely diffrent then the Dante we all knew and loved.
now it seems this time they are once again changeing the beloved character ::)
all i gotta say is if Dante doesn't crack some funny 1 liners in this game i'm going to be pissed lol
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You say that like it's a bad thing. Or at least worse than a cool urban and rebellious skinny lil biatch. They are both horrible.
though dmc1 dante is pretty much the superior version of dante anytime.
It was a bad thing... DMC1 Dante was the best. Possibly DMC2's as well, but the game for it sucked so hard, it's hard for me to talk about it without thinking about the game play.
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it actually is a lame design, i phrased that wrong. i mean it was okay for the game's context. i'll have to know more about new dante and his game to make a better opinion of his design. but outside of context, i think they're both horrible.
for the game itself, im a bit worried because it's ninja theory and i heard that heavenly sword's combat was pretty shallow. but there's not really much to comment on anyway so.
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Why do they need to reboot DMC when, if I'm not mistaken, DMC4 came out not too long ago? It may have been a couple of years, sure but... If they felt the need to reboot why'd they do the fourth instalment?
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As a fairly casual fan of the series, I don't really like this at all. I wouldn't have a problem with the character design if this were a completely new series, but they just fixed what wasn't broken. Dante himself was probably the most important aspect of the series, and now they decided to change it. This feels like some kid pretending to be Dante, or something.
Still, this has raised my curiosity. I'm really interested in seeing how this turns out.
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This feels like some kid pretending to be Dante, or something.
Someone at another forum wrote the following: "[...] brainwashing some poor drugged-out kid into thinking he's Dante (completing the illusion, of course, by genetic demon infusion whatever experiment). It'd be a different story and an allusion to the game's external development. ".
It's possible ;D
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They pulled a LoS on Dante.
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At least Gabriel looks like a Belmont and not like a dude looks like he spends his days at Hot Toipic reading Scott Pilgirm in the library sitting indian style.
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Seems lame. New design is stupid.
Hope it's a prequel and not a reboot, that would be retarded for such a young IP.
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At least Gabriel looks like a Belmont and not like a dude looks like he spends his days at Hot Toipic reading Scott Pilgirm in the library sitting indian style.
Can't say the same about Cornell who?
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RIP DMC.
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hey guys look at what the "Original" Dante thinks of the "New" Dante :D
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I love Devil May Cry. The series is dead to me now. This drug addict kid is Dante? What the hell? And where is Rebellion? Why do the demons look so mechanical? Where is the gothic architecture? This is the worst thing they could have possibly done to the series. Lords of Shadow changed nothing compared to this. RIP DMC. You died too young >:(
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I was never really a fan of Devil May Cry, but I really don't like what they did to the new one, and I really don't like that Dante.
I just hope he still has to fill someones dark soul with light
I should have been the one to fill ur dark sould with LIGHT! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8qG4AlK1qk#)
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Action in the trailer looks Devil May Cry. This little drugged out turd does not. He needs to either be an original character, or he needs to die.
Also, it seems to be a guarantee that Non-Japanese Developer = no chance of 60 FPS in a game, ever. Which will be a damned shame after how smooth and gorgeous DMC4 looked.
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Also, it seems to be a guarantee that Non-Japanese Developer = no chance of 60 FPS in a game, ever. Which will be a damned shame after how smooth and gorgeous DMC4 looked.
The forest levels, especially when fights Fausts or Mephistos, had some annoying slowdowns when you were near trees or heavy foliage. Especially that one part where theres that creek. I don't recall any slowdown in DMC3 though.
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Have you guys seen this? Apparently the guy on the right is the games director. FUCK HIM!! >:( >:( >:(
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Have you guys seen this? Apparently the guy on the right is the games director. FUCK HIM!! >:( >:( >:(
yes indeed
its bad enough they are calling this new character Dante but the fact that the producer actually had the balls to model the character after himeself is a real low blow to DMC fans
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hah, talk about an ego trip.
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hah, talk about an ego trip.
this is more then a ego trip lol
this is him being a complete douche to every DMC fan out there and basically giving us the middle finger by having the balls to self insert himself in a game and call himself Dante "atleast thats how i feel about it"
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Someone at another forum wrote the following: "[...] brainwashing some poor drugged-out kid into thinking he's Dante (completing the illusion, of course, by genetic demon infusion whatever experiment). It'd be a different story and an allusion to the game's external development. ".
It's possible ;D
That was me. I just thought it'd be an interesting commentary on the game's development, like how some movies of books call to attention the process of their adaptation.
Also, that scene in the dingy place where "Dante" is chained up doesn't really look like an interrogation. Maybe it's Enzo and they're prepping him for starring in Devil May Cry 2, lolz.
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It sounds like this guy is doing what IGA himself is doing to Castlevania; Making the series in his own image.
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iga is a fabulous prettyboy aristocrat, makes girls jealous
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Here's what DMC's creator thinks of the new look http://kotaku.com/5640496/what-does-devil-may-crys-creator-think-of-the-series-new-look (http://kotaku.com/5640496/what-does-devil-may-crys-creator-think-of-the-series-new-look)
It sounds like this guy is doing what IGA himself is doing to Castlevania; Making the series in his own image.
This quote doesn't make any sense.
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Fighting back the urge to find this man and beat him senseless with a big rubber dildo.
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Have you guys seen this? Apparently the guy on the right is the games director. FUCK HIM!! >:( >:( >:(
??? Is this really true?? Holy crap...pathetic has now hit a new low.
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It sounds like this guy is doing what IGA himself is doing to Castlevania; Making the series in his own image.
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how so?
this is NOTHING like what IGA is doing i have no idea how you could compare the two.
this guy self INSERTED himself in the game as the main protaganist of the series Dante.
last i checked IGA has doing nothing remotely similar to that
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I think he means Julius.
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I think he means Julius.
weird....
i honestly can't see the resemblence that much :-\
and even if he did self insert himself in a game atleast he didn't do it with like say SIMON BELMONT someone who is also a series staple character like Dante
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I can see Julius but see, AoS was before he grew his beard.
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I believe the characters from the IGA era reflect Ayami Kojima's taste in men, if anything. She like'em androgynous, fashionable and pale! I don't see IGA in any of his games. He's nothing of the above.. well, I guess he's kinda pale.
The DMC producer is really embarrasing. Such a blatant self portrait (except he thinks waaaay too highly of himself.)
At first I though he was Dave Gahan, to be honest.
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I should clarify my last entry somewhat since a lot of you are confused...I would be too. What I was getting at was that these new game desiners i.e. IGA and this new director for the DMC reboot are making these games into what they want to see; what they think we should see reather then letting us fans have what we know to be a tripple 'T'; Tried, Trusted and True. With the CV games of the last decade, it's IGA's characters, IGA's stories, etc. In essence he's turning CV into something that reflects himself rather then having the series follow the status quo which has always worked for it. The same can be said for this new DMC reboot. That about sums it up.
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Ah, the Triple T actually seems like a bad idea because then the franchise won't be able to grow and it would slowly die off. You shouldn't really encourage franchises to be stagnant. I think it's better to encourage natural evolution. You can't always focus on pleasing the fans.
Even though, I do agree with you on DMC, since this seems to be throwing out most of the fanbase, which is the opposite extreme.
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If that would happen then we get shit like Slaves of the Apocalypse.
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This little drugged out turd
I forgot to mention that this quote made my week. There will be a spot for you in Valhalla. ;D
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I should clarify my last entry somewhat since a lot of you are confused...I would be too. What I was getting at was that these new game desiners i.e. IGA and this new director for the DMC reboot are making these games into what they want to see; what they think we should see reather then letting us fans have what we know to be a tripple 'T'; Tried, Trusted and True. With the CV games of the last decade, it's IGA's characters, IGA's stories, etc. In essence he's turning CV into something that reflects himself rather then having the series follow the status quo which has always worked for it. The same can be said for this new DMC reboot. That about sums it up.
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I don't think IGA's stories or characters are bad, but it's the development and cut-scene execution that are. The story ideas are pretty cool, but in more capable hands, they could've been better than what we got. It's like with movies. Stephen King could write some good books, but when he gets down to writing screenplays for movie/mini-series adaptation, they always fall short. But, for other BETTER writers(who aren't better in WRITING than they are more skilled in making screenplays work), they are able to turn out a GOOD screenplay based on King's story ideas, and it works. I think that's how IGA's CV stories should've been handled. It's kinda like with Tetsuya Nomura too, who writes a base story and lets other writers(like Kazushige Nojima) flesh it out, adding more scenes of dialog, character interraction and depth.
But yeah, I'm not thrilled at this DMC "reboot". The last decade, the wholre remake/reboot trend has been overkill, and it seems to be getting worse. Now people aren't waiting longer than a decade to jump at rebooting new movies and games. I mean, look at the Spider-man movies, which are geting a reboot. Sure, Sipider-Man 3 could've been better, but c'mon! Pretty soon, it's not going to even be a year until they start rebooting things. I always thought rebooting was a cheap way out. It's like playing a game, not liking the results and always calling, "Do over!". I mean, when you have a kid, and you don't like how they are turning out, you don't kill the kid, decide to have another one(to replace the kid) and start over again. ;D
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I'm gonna have to agree with the people who say he's in a psychiatric ward of some kind. I keep watching this trailer over and over again, and the more I do, the more I think that this actually is a sequel, and not just a reboot. Not only that, but It really does seem that he's been brainwashed into believing that he is Dante, even though he isn't. I seriously think this character isn't actually meant to be the real Dante. Maybe some organization is trying to bring the real Dante down, and so found what they saw as the person most able to become a new "Dante" to bring down the original. I don't think he's Dante at all in reality. I really think he's a new character altogether.
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I'm gonna have to agree with the people who say he's in a psychiatric ward of some kind. I keep watching this trailer over and over again, and the more I do, the more I think that this actually is a sequel, and not just a reboot. Not only that, but It really does seem that he's been brainwashed into believing that he is Dante, even though he isn't. I seriously think this character isn't actually meant to be the real Dante. Maybe some organization is trying to bring the real Dante down, and so found what they saw as the person most able to become a new "Dante" to bring down the original. I don't think he's Dante at all in reality. I really think he's a new character altogether.
I hope you are right. But you probably aren't :P Ninja Theory just sucks.
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I would love the theory to be true. Sadly, companies would rather reboot franchises in a heartbeat than think up something as interesting as that(and try to continue an established franchise).
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did not make this
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LOL :D Thats who I thought of when I saw the new dante.
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lmao. wow, that picture fits with new dante perfectly.
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you know my first reaction was "WTF! who the f*ck's idea was it to do that those SOBs Mofo" several other swera words but now after reading some comments at Kotaku, this uproar maybe exactly what capcom wants...maybe he's not Dante, just some weird plot about being believed to be Dante. at least I hope so, cause I hate him in so many ways...
now that I think about it DMC4 didn't say that we were going to play with Dante did they? but we did, and Dante at the end of the day was 100x more fun to play with than Nero IMO.
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LOL "Dante" Pattinson.
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I forget which one it was, but there was a blog that insisted that this was an origin story of Dante, and not a reboot. Their reasoning was because of the white streaks of hair on top of this kid's head...it's supposed to be before Dante actually knows he's part Demon.
As unlikely as that sounds, it could be possible, I guess. I still like the "brainwashed into believing he's Dante" idea a whole lot better.
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I agree with JR that brainwashed deal sounds better, but I also read somewhere that Dante's white hair was supposedly there since birth so...I think it is a reboot, oh and I hate the new Dante.
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Pretty much sums up my opinion about this game. =O
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The forest levels, especially when fights Fausts or Mephistos, had some annoying slowdowns when you were near trees or heavy foliage. Especially that one part where theres that creek. I don't recall any slowdown in DMC3 though.
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Have you guys seen this? Apparently the guy on the right is the games director. FUCK HIM!! >:( >:( >:(
Wow, the resemblance is uncanny. O__O What a douche. Must have a horrible case of USI.
But yeah, I'm not thrilled at this DMC "reboot". The last decade, the wholre remake/reboot trend has been overkill, and it seems to be getting worse. Now people aren't waiting longer than a decade to jump at rebooting new movies and games. I mean, look at the Spider-man movies, which are geting a reboot. Sure, Sipider-Man 3 could've been better, but c'mon! Pretty soon, it's not going to even be a year until they start rebooting things. I always thought rebooting was a cheap way out. It's like playing a game, not liking the results and always calling, "Do over!". I mean, when you have a kid, and you don't like how they are turning out, you don't kill the kid, decide to have another one(to replace the kid) and start over again. ;D
This reminds me of that shitty Dragonball Evolution movie; the director fucked it up, and after the fact, there was news of the movie facing a reboot. All I can say to this is that, I know it would still suck, even if the characters do end up looking as they did in the original manga. As for Spider-Man, that really made me angry. I was totally looking forward to the fourth movie, with Dr. Connors becoming the Lizard, but Sony Pictures had to be douche-bags and reboot the franchise.
Back on topic, I'm skeptical of this supposed reboot of DMC, but the action looks great, and Ninja Theory, afterall, was responsible for one of the greatest PS3 games, and like the rest of you, I hope those theories that were mentioned are true, because DMC never needed a reboot to begin with. Also, those that are comparing this to Los, just keep in mind that the majority of CV's core elements remain intact, and that Gabe is a new Belmont, and unlike DMC, the series has become stagnant and was in desperate need for a quality 3D game. So I say, thank you, Cox, and (maybe) fuck the director of this reboot.
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Fantastic Four is being rebooted too, everything's getting rebooted nowadays. Makes you wonder how Harry Potter managed to survive this long.
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I just hope Stephanie Meyer doesn't decide to reboot her crappy
Mary-Sue vampire series.
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I just hope Stephanie Meyer doesn't decide to reboot her crappy Mary-Sue vampire series.
I hope she does... then maybe we'll get somethign good like this....
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I hope she does... then maybe we'll get somethign good like this....
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that would be awesome, I might actually disregard the monstrosity of Mary Sue's love if edward and vampires looked like this.
the thing with reboots...is that they don't usually work, I understand the nature of a reboot if the series is loosing or something, but not with so many fans that like the protagonist, why give them a giant middle finger?
when did a reboot increase the popularity of an already popular series?
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when did a reboot increase the popularity of an already popular series?
I think some reboots are nesissary. Take Star Trek for example. Rick Berman and his team have seriously F**ked up the continuity starting with Generations. And it only got worse from there *Cough* Enterprise *Cough*. However with J.J. Abrams' new Star Trek movie, we have a chance to so our favoret characters in the spotlight again and this time with a whole new sluth of adventures. Reboots have been around for a while now and I'm not sure when they became popular. I think maybe that the mass public wants to see their favoret show/movies/games again and that 50% of those will be successful being rebooted.
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Someone posted that on Joystiq in the comments section. "Harder edged" indeed.
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If it weren't for that damn tzimisce, you'd still be looking under rocks for us!
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I'm not gonna lie i got mixed feelings about this game, he smokes now so thats a plus for me, statistics still show you are 30% cooler when you smoke. But after seeing how much he looks like the producer/director douche bag I'm really not cool with that..
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Same... but if it plays well, then whatever, I don't go into it for the main char's looks or the story. The only Dante I thought were cool was 1 and 2 anyway.
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Same... but if it plays well, then whatever, I don't go into it for the main char's looks or the story. The only Dante I thought were cool was 1 and 2 anyway.
Ninja Theory is making it, so chances are it won't play that well (in comparison to the other games, atleast)
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I havent played any of their other games so I cant really make an opinion on it, though I must say thats pretty lame they would redesign the lead character to look like the lead producer. And here I thought I was a narcissist .
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Fantastic Four is being rebooted too, everything's getting rebooted nowadays. Makes you wonder how Harry Potter managed to survive this long.
I don't think the act of rebooting is as bad as that, now, they aren't even waiting decades to reboot things. You mentioned Fantastic Four, which is a good example. They are doing it with Spider-Man too(another movie, which will take a more darker, realistic, gritty Nolan-wannabe take on our classic web slinger). They did it with the Hulk. Though, who knows, give a couple years and they might just jump back into the fray and reboot all the Harry Potter movies, the Saw movies, the LotR trilogy, and Superbad.
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*sigh* read this guys
http://www.cheatmasters.com/cmnews/0/4317/news.html (http://www.cheatmasters.com/cmnews/0/4317/news.html)
it appears Capcom KNEW that we longtime DMC fans wouldn't like the knew design and basically didn't give a d*mn
way to alianate the original DMC fans Capcom and basically give us the middle finger after 10 years of dedication to the series
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Well, like I said. If it plays good I'll play. Since I never gave a damn about the story or characters anyway. But if I have to sit through all the excruciating cutscenes... someone's gonna die.
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Well, like I said. If it plays good I'll play. Since I never gave a damn about the story or characters anyway. But if I have to sit through all the excruciating cutscenes... someone's gonna die.
so let me get this straight
you only play DMC because of the gameplay?
lol your a totally different gamer then me dude because i honestly like Story and plot in my games and will not play a game if a hate the characters and story itself
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I love story... I play lots of games for story... just not DMC, and maybe some other games. As I hate Dante's guts after the first game... well second game, but I never got into the 2nd game to truly judge.
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I only really care about the story in RPGs. In action games I rarely pay attention to be honest. I mean, I get the overall plot but I don't dwell on details or even think about it the second I turn the game off. With characters, I only care about what they look like, not what they say or how the act. My interest in video game characters is only skin deep, with a few exceptions... Having said that, Dante looks nowhere near as cool as he used to, and it bothers me.
I read a lot of books and watch a lot of movies so maybe video games is just relaxation for me. I simply don't care what happens in them as long as the gameplay is fun. I could never force myself to sit through a boring game just for the storyline, no matter how good it is.
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Everything about this looks like a horrible marketing excercise
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Everything about this looks like a horrible marketing excercise
That's because it is. Reading that the higher ups at Capcom rejected a Dante design that actually fucking looked like him was the last straw.
There's really no question about it. It's Devil May Cry: Streetwise.
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That's because it is. Reading that the higher ups at Capcom rejected a Dante design that actually fucking looked like him was the last straw.
i know right *EPIC Facepalm*
that really annoyed me after reading that they actually had a Dante design that looked similar to the Dante we all know and love only to have it rejected and tossed aside
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at least they'll have more pressure to make it have great gameplay. then again the devs are known more for their story-telling rather than gameplay. hhhh.
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at least they'll have more pressure to make it have great gameplay.
good point.
however
i heard that they will be useing their own engine to run this game which will thus lose the typical fast paced gameplay that all DMC games have which will only further raise doubt in longtime DMC fans.
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at least they'll have more pressure to make it have great gameplay. then again the devs are known more for their story-telling rather than gameplay. hhhh.
The choice of dev and the choice of engine suggest it will have damn sloppy gameplay.
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Dante what have they done to you?
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Dante what have they done to you?
Bad time to be a Dante fan. Hopefully if Mercury Steam does the next Castlevania game and adds Alucard they won't butcher his design like Ninja Theory did with this.
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Bad time to be a Dante fan. Hopefully if Mercury Steam does the next Castlevania game and adds Alucard they won't butcher his design like Ninja Theory did with this.
i have a VERY HIGH fear that this may become the case.
i'm like 90% sure they are going to revamp Alucard in the same manner they revamped Olrox,Brauner,and Cornel wich is complete BS.
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*sigh* read this guys
http://www.cheatmasters.com/cmnews/0/4317/news.html (http://www.cheatmasters.com/cmnews/0/4317/news.html)
it appears Capcom KNEW that we longtime DMC fans wouldn't like the knew design and basically didn't give a d*mn
way to alianate the original DMC fans Capcom and basically give us the middle finger after 10 years of dedication to the series
thats the great thing about owning a popular brand. You can send people to the f and they still will buy the game. I dont really care, however that part was kinda annoying
"No guys, this needs to be completely different, we need you to go much further and be much more creative".
God bless (mostly) LoS redesigns
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It's a good thing I'm more a fan of the gameplay than I am of the characters. Then I'd be pretty annoyed, more so than I am. But as it is right now, I'm only annoyed because of the audacity of the designer making Dante his clone. E-peen anyone?
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It's a good thing I'm more a fan of the gameplay than I am of the characters. Then I'd be pretty annoyed, more so than I am.
Too bad it will run like crap on the Unreal engine which probably wont handle the type of slick gameplay DMC3 had.
E-peen anyone?
Sort of an understatement, but yeah.
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i have a VERY HIGH fear that this may become the case.
i'm like 90% sure they are going to revamp Alucard in the same manner they revamped Olrox,Brauner,and Cornel wich is complete BS.
revamped...lul i get it. Considering that Alucard is such an iconic character and that MS' Belmont design top notch, I don't think we will have a problem. The worst they could do is base the design off of CV3.
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The worst they could do is base the design off of CV3.
which is a HIGH probability considering he seems to love the "Classic" vania style over the "Metroid" vania style.
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revamped...lul i get it. Considering that Alucard is such an iconic character and that MS' Belmont design top notch, I don't think we will have a problem. The worst they could do is base the design off of CV3.
Yeah Gabriel looks like I'd imagine a Belmont to look in 3d. If Cox did Alucard I wouldn't be suprised if he changed his attire a bit to fit the more medieval time frame. My major concern is if he changed the hair, the face, all that kind of stuff. I really didn't like his CV3 appearance. I don't know if it's a popular design amongst Castlevania fans but it certainly isn't my cup of tea. I'd much prefer him to look like SotN Alucard.
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Maria: wait a moment, you seem different and yet, what do you here?
CV3 Alucard: I've come to disappoint my fans.
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Maria: wait a moment, you seem different and yet, what do you here?
CV3 Alucard: I've come to disappoint my fans.
awesome! ;D
we'll all this stuff regarding rebooting Alucard may very we'll come true seeing as how in a recent interview Cox said he may do a Alucard game.
and i completely agree Vrakanox
his CV3 appearance was just not cool at all.
he had the stearotypical Dracula look which isn't cool.
i'm perfectly fine with giving him a more medieval look such as changeing his armor and attire but changeing his hair and face would be lame IMO
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awesome! ;D
we'll all this stuff regarding rebooting Alucard may very we'll come true seeing as how in a recent interview Cox said he may do a Alucard game.
and i completely agree Vrakanox
his CV3 appearance was just not cool at all.
he had the stearotypical Dracula look which isn't cool.
i'm perfectly fine with giving him a more medieval look such as changeing his armor and attire but changeing his hair and face would be lame IMO
Do we mean Alucard's whole look in CV3, or his head, because given Cox's knack for doing the medieval-look thing, I'd doubt we'd get either. Alucard, like early Dracula in the series, were totally out of place in the looks department. I mean, I'd doubt you'd see many nobles back in the 1400s or 1600s dressed in black tuxedos, capes, with slicked back hair, which was more of an late 1800s/early 1900s look. Hehe, unless you could say that Drac and son were hundreds of years ahead of popular fashion.
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Well, Castlevania is a ridiculously anachronistic series, so it's not farfetched. Plus, what with now time travel and all, lots of things are out of place:
-LoS's Mechanical Tower (and Mechanical Monstrosity within)
-LoI's Anti-Soul Mysteries Lab and one grandfather clock room (despite IGA trying to make it an excuse to not have a clocktower stage, this snuck in, despite 'there were no clocks at the time').
-Legends' and CV3's ClockTowers (I believe).
-CoD's Chair Collecting (one of them was a modern office chair!).
-Belmonts' Revenge's 'cloud castle' is floating in the air (though this could be 'magic', not technology).
-Frankenstein's creature existing even before Electricity was invented, from CV3's time all the way to Simon's time... I believe he wouldn't exist until Richter's time.
-Symphony of the Night had a working pseudo-modern elevator system in 1794.
-The Tower of Science and the Castle Center in CV64/LoD intentionally featured models of objects that would not exist until many years later. Although the game takes place in the late 1800's, there are dirigible blimps, transistor radios, Crystal LASER technology, and motorcycles, prior to their time (the tesla coils might be accurate, though).
At this point, at least it can be handwaved by 'Dracula's Magic' or 'St.Germaine/Aeon's influence in the past", etc.
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prior to their time (the tesla coils might be accurate, though).
The Tesla coil was invented 40 years after CV64 takes place.
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this is probably the worst DMC sequal ever,i mean really... from badass guy to a smoking emo weirdo... :'(
i loved the previous games,,but DMC5 looks so bad,why did they even do this??
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-Belmonts' Revenge's 'cloud castle' is floating in the air (though this could be 'magic', not technology).
Don't hate me for correcting you here Jorge but the Cloud Castle isn't floating at all. It's supported by large stone pillars which are evident on the map screen. The large cloud covering the castle gives it the impression that it's floating but that's not the case. ;D
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Back to the, you know, Devil May Cry in the topic. Capcom is apparently aiming to make this the "perfect Devil May Cry" with this game.
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/292244/news/capcom-aiming-to-make-the-perfect-devil-may-cry/ (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/292244/news/capcom-aiming-to-make-the-perfect-devil-may-cry/)
If even one fucking iota of this game involves some dumbass button icon prompt, they have failed. The article mentions the success of Dead Rising 2 as defense, but 1. that was Blue Castle, not Ninja Theory, and 2. Dead Rising was already pretty much a GTA-esque game with Westerners in mind. For this kind of precise, heavily combat-focused game... I think the only benchmark this will set for the series is the only game more despised than DMC2.
Also, I still can't quite get over the similarities between Tameem-a-barber or whatever his name is and "Dante".
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DMC1 is already the perfect DMC.
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Bayonetta is already the perfect DMC.
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Bayonetta is already the perfect DMC.
Yep. I have a really hard time going back to DMC1.
I'm still praying my theory is correct about this Dante being some brainwashed guy who is a victim of kidnapping and/or demon genetic enhancements. (Also I hope for Capcom's sake that they're smart enough to vehemently disallow NT from placing any kind of QTE in the game. It probably won't happen because TEH NOO KAZHUWAL AWDYENCE that needs them in every goddamn game released nowadays.)
It's funny. I keep wanting to see more of this game, not because I'm interested in buying it but, like rubberneckers on a highway, I want to see how hard it'll crash and burn (and whether or not there's any blood). Was this Capcom's plan all along? To shoot the moon?
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with Alucard's CV3 design.
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.wikia.com%2Fcastlevania%2Fimages%2F8%2F80%2FCv3_alucard.jpg&hash=e742ee789a9ff679dfbaaafb9d554164f4082d3f)
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linnavaanijat.com%2Fimg%2Fhahmot%2FAlucard_DC_ohjekirjasta.gif&hash=3ac74d719635deb5c04737748282249539b755f0)
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.wikia.com%2Fcastlevania%2Fimages%2F9%2F96%2FCV3_Guide_Alucard.JPG&hash=68c640b626b4462cb059f0c46a08e56a4c06c350)
Eat that, suckas!
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DMC3 is the perfect Devil May Cry game. Bayonetta is just DMC with some big boobed slut that no one cares about.
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I care about her more than I do about this fakeDante fellow, and slightly more than the classic Dante guy.
Then again, I'm not into DMC all that much.
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Well, I gotta say a big-boobed slut is far more entertaining to watch jump around and kill shit than Vash the Stampede Mk-II (or in this reboot's case, Emo McShitdicks). And as much as I loved DMC3, Bayonetta takes a bit more strategy.
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Also whether you like Bayonetta herself or not, the gameplay has been refined to perfection by Kamiya since the first DMC. This reboot is going to play like total shit thanks to NT and their great button lag and sluggish response combat ::)
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I'm so upset with this reboot :/ That is not Dante.
Castlevania and Devil May Cry are the only two series that I follow loyally, but I would not touch this travesty if you paid me.
DMC3 is the perfect Devil May Cry game.
I am so glad I'm not the only one that thinks this.
That said, I'd love to see another Alucard game if they could do it right!
awesome! ;D
we'll all this stuff regarding rebooting Alucard may very we'll come true seeing as how in a recent interview Cox said he may do a Alucard game.
and i completely agree Vrakanox
his CV3 appearance was just not cool at all.
he had the stearotypical Dracula look which isn't cool.
i'm perfectly fine with giving him a more medieval look such as changeing his armor and attire but changeing his hair and face would be lame IMO
Agreeing with the fact that he was too stereotypical in CV3. He's supposed to be Dracula's son, not Dracula himself. New armor might be really cool to see (or changeable armor. Like he starts out in just a tunic and pants if Death decides to disarm him again, but as you find armor in the castle, it changes on the character).
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Agreeing with the fact that he was too stereotypical in CV3. He's supposed to be Dracula's son, not Dracula himself.
I don't know if you've noticed but his appearance seems to always mirror Dracula's current style when they appear in the same game:
The Blue Man Group rejects:
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linnavaanijat.com%2Fimg%2Fhahmot%2FAl_Legends2.png&hash=1683f73f562d5e3a2f7e369873e6f1ae8e1b515a)
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.wikia.com%2Fcastlevania%2Fimages%2F2%2F25%2FDracula_Legends.jpg&hash=684d4a2696f2ca5ce608360eccce2e402cecad88)
The long haired aristocrats:
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linnavaanijat.com%2Fimg%2Fhahmot%2FAllu_SotN2.png&hash=0cdf859c102a26b8216fe23af0f469f92554a09d)
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cosplayisland.co.uk%2Ffiles%2Fcostumes%2F2455%2F19121%2FDracula-sotn.png&hash=1f302624a987fc0d3d9aec8370ab7d47e517527a)
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.neoseeker.com%2Fca%2Fcastlevania_judgment_conceptart_3nsIa.jpg&hash=3d909b9f3e13e50f8353a4597bc17fee77176f4e)
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Felmundotech.files.wordpress.com%2F2008%2F09%2Falucard.jpg&hash=e9596b1687a4e7f1d4fba0302fc56291edf3e822)
The Classic Vampires:
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages2.wikia.nocookie.net%2F__cb20090328064109%2Fcastlevania%2Fimages%2Fthumb%2Fb%2Fbe%2FTokuma-syoten_Akumajo_Densetsu_Guide_Book_Dracula.JPG%2F185px-Tokuma-syoten_Akumajo_Densetsu_Guide_Book_Dracula.JPG&hash=6d5ea42beee2de2591e629930b16ff8436cb728d)
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages2.wikia.nocookie.net%2F__cb20090321074808%2Fcastlevania%2Fimages%2Fthumb%2F9%2F96%2FCV3_Guide_Alucard.JPG%2F141px-CV3_Guide_Alucard.JPG&hash=6494acfb9742b8cdcdb322e76957c7e9c722cd4e)
If that "NextGen Alucardvania" of IGA's ever gets made, I bet Dracula will look something like this:
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freewebs.com%2Fmerciful-goddess%2F%2FPics%2FCastlevania%2FAlucard%25202.jpg&hash=8b5e329607467be6b6f301f54429138fb21f4f20)
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I was intrigued hearing how in the canceled 32X game, Alucard had his SotN sprite but it was colored like his CV3 sprite (black hair, red cape). I'd love to see him in that style sometime.
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screw you capcom...first the resident evil...then the DMC :((((....i freakin hate you :(((
RE4 SUCKED ( AFTER THAT all of em too) ,DMC 2 SUCKED...AND 5 IS GONNA SUCK MUCH MOREEE :(((
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I actually liked RE4. I couldn't get into RE5 though. I prefer DMC4's weapons, but I prefer DMC3's weapon switching. Switching back and forth between 2 weapons is good, cycling between 3 or more is bad. I prefer Nero's sword over pretty much all of Dante's weapon in that game though.
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I actually think DMC4 was a damn fine game, though I can understand why many hardcore fans found it disappointing after the (arguably) superior DMC3. For some people - myself included - DMC3 was a little bit too hard though, which made me like DMC4 a whole lot more. I could actually finish the damn thing. I am too old and busy to sit around perfecting my skills in video games for hours on end, so DMC4 was perfect for me.
My only problem with DMC4 is that it actually felt a little dated, even when it was new. Not much has evolved since the very first game. So, in all honesty, I can understand why Capcom would choose to reboot this baby. I fear they're making it worse though, for the sake of "modernizing" it. Time will tell.
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screw you capcom...first the resident evil...then the DMC :((((....i freakin hate you :(((
RE4 SUCKED ( AFTER THAT all of em too) ,DMC 2 SUCKED...AND 5 IS GONNA SUCK MUCH MOREEE :(((
I am going to second what Kale said earlier and in addition say that DMC looks like it will be an interesting game. A questionable art style? Yes. Does that mean it will absolutely suck? No! I mean there wasn't even any gameplay released for this and you and tons of other people are judging ONLY based on the trailer. I am going to wait it out and see what my friends have to say before I make my judgment on it.
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I thought it was impossible to hate RE4. It's the one game I almost always replay sooner or later. ;_;
As for DmC, eh, I don't think much of the little we've been shown so far. The in-game experience will usually trump aesthetic, but I don't see how this new Dante will be all that likable.
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According to the Capcom-Unity site they're using DmC as the basis for a live action movie.
Guess that explains why Dante looks like a douche-bag generic punk.
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According to the Capcom-Unity site they're using DmC as the basis for a live action movie.
Guess that explains why Dante looks like a douche-bag generic punk.
Awww yeaaah. I just hope DmC is as hilariously shitty as Street Fighter: The Game of the Movie.
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Gonna be a riot. As an aside, there's a guy in the recent A Nightmare on Elm Street remake who looks exactly like DmC Dante. Even has the same hoodie. I would call it intentional if it wasn't so goddamn bewildering to begin with.