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Title: A Survivor is Born, Lara Croft Reboot
Post by: Dominus on December 06, 2010, 10:59:39 PM
Another reboot...

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A New Game from Crystal Dynamics


LOS ANGELES, Dec. 6, 2010 /PRNewswire/ -- Square Enix, Inc., is excited today to announce TOMB RAIDER®,
the new game from Redwood City based studio Crystal Dynamics®.

'After a brutal storm destroys the boat she was travelling on, a frightened young woman is left washed ashore
on an unknown beach. On her own but not alone she has only one goal, to survive'

Here begins the first adventure for a young and inexperienced Lara Croft in a story which charts the journey
of an ordinary woman who finds out just how far she must go in order to stay alive.

"Forget everything you knew about TOMB RAIDER," said Darrell Gallagher, Head of Studio, Crystal Dynamics.
"This is an origins story that creates Lara Croft and takes her on a character defining journey like no other."

TOMB RAIDER makes its worldwide debut in the January issue of Game Informer® magazine. The cover story
features 10 pages of exclusive content and is available beginning today for subscribers and on newsstands
December 11. Follow Game Informer on Twitter @GameInformer.

Follow TOMB RAIDER on Twitter @TombRaider. For more information on TOMB RAIDER please visit www.TombRaider.com (http://www.TombRaider.com).

Some Points of Interst

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    * Lara is 21 in this game
    * It's not only a reboot of the franchise but a reboot of the entire brand. As a result there will be no "real" Lara model this time.
    * They're doing performance capturing with this game
    * There are brutal deaths in the game this time. One is described as a deranged man stabbing Lara in the chest and then closing her eyes after she's dead. Another includes a boulder falling on her leg to trap her before another falls and crushes her head.
    * CD won't talk specifics on weapons but concept art shows a bow, shotgun and pistol
    * The lock on targeting system is gone and it now has a free aim system. CD says that it can compete with any of their competitors.
    * "I think that the major difference between this game and the old is the concept of smoke and mirrors," begins Darrell Gallagher, the studio head at Crystal Dynamics. "There was an illusion of freedom because of streaming and loading that would pop you out in a different location, but this is absolutely real. You can literally go any direction that you see and carve your own way to the finish line instead of being guide."
    * "It was important in the game to not only deliver the character arc of Lara Croft emotionally, but to deliver it in gameplay as well so the player gets to grow into a hardened survivor," says experienced director Noah Hughes. As the game unfolds, Lara will scavenge new tools and gear that augment her abilities. Lara's athletic prowess will also evolve. Some areas begin inaccessible due to physical limitations or scarce supplies. With the right skills and gear, however, the island is Lara's for the taking.
    * There are base camps in the game. Here you can combine items to create something new and access a skill system to upgrade Lara's abilities. You'll also be able to use base camps to fast travel to different locations to minimize backtracking.
    * You'll need to gather food and water in order to survive
    * There are humans in the game, including some of the crew members from the shipwreck off the coast of the island.

Source:http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=415089

I dont know if many people here like TR but anyway. It has been a rumon since a long time, some concept art and features were "leaked" and now Game Informer made it official
Title: Re: A Survivor is Born, Lara Croft Reboot
Post by: C Belmont on December 06, 2010, 11:22:14 PM
It seems that dark & gritty reboots are all the rage nowadays

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There are brutal deaths in the game this time. One is described as a deranged man stabbing Lara in the chest and then closing her eyes after she's dead. Another includes a boulder falling on her leg to trap her before another falls and crushes her head.
Seriously, why? I don't actually follow the Tomb Raider series so I have no idea if this kind of thing is normal but why would anyone want to see the player die in increasingly violent & disturbing ways?
Title: Re: A Survivor is Born, Lara Croft Reboot
Post by: Kale on December 06, 2010, 11:45:34 PM
All she needs to be is hot, and from the looks of it, she is.
Title: Re: A Survivor is Born, Lara Croft Reboot
Post by: ShinAkumaXX on December 07, 2010, 04:09:53 PM
Never got a Tomb Raider game. That looks cool though. At least you would still think it's Lara Croft. I'm sure I won't buy it. I never mind seeing Lara around in ads though.
Title: Re: A Survivor is Born, Lara Croft Reboot
Post by: Kingshango on December 07, 2010, 04:15:29 PM
Im getting some Arkham Asylum vibes from that info and Lara looks like a actual human for once.

Title: Re: A Survivor is Born, Lara Croft Reboot
Post by: X on December 07, 2010, 05:43:57 PM
I played about half of the orignial Tomb Raider games and this 'reimagining definitly doesn't sound like any tomb raider I've ever seen, let alone played.

Seriously, why? I don't actually follow the Tomb Raider series so I have no idea if this kind of thing is normal but why would anyone want to see the player die in increasingly violent & disturbing ways?

Tomb Raider was essentually all about 'raiding' tombs for treasure and artifacts. This game from the sounds of it comes off as mostly a 'survivor type' game rather then the traditional games we're all used to (I'm guessing there eeking a little bit of Resident Evil into this to up the ante a bit). Lara Croft does die in some rather horrible ways in the old games, but I think they're just kicking it up a notch for this one. I think I'll give this game a shot when it comes out though I will force myself not to expect a whole lot (Just so I don't dissapoint myself). And yeah, I have to say that this new look for Lara Croft is dynamite.  :o

-X
Title: Re: A Survivor is Born, Lara Croft Reboot
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on December 07, 2010, 06:47:54 PM
It looks "Darker and Edgier" (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DarkerAndEdgier) than the originals.
Title: Re: A Survivor is Born, Lara Croft Reboot
Post by: Kingshango on December 07, 2010, 07:55:21 PM
It looks "Darker and Edgier" (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DarkerAndEdgier) than the originals.

Nooooo not tvtropes, that site is waaaaaay to addicting.
Title: Re: A Survivor is Born, Lara Croft Reboot
Post by: Dominus on December 07, 2010, 11:17:18 PM
Lara Croft does die in some rather horrible ways in the old games, but I think they're just kicking it up a notch for this one.

On the other hand most of her deaths were stupid in the latest games, also she kinda became a doll when the health bar reached 0

It looks "Darker and Edgier" (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DarkerAndEdgier) than the originals.

On the other hand the previous reboot Tomb Raider Legend was Lighter and Softer (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LighterAndSofter) than the original.

Nooooo not tvtropes, that site is waaaaaay to addicting.

I know, right
Title: Re: A Survivor is Born, Lara Croft Reboot
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on December 07, 2010, 11:47:51 PM
I have killed many a person's productivity with random links to that site. :P
Title: Re: A Survivor is Born, Lara Croft Reboot
Post by: shelverton. on December 08, 2010, 02:34:22 AM

This rebooting/revamping trend is a bit scary. Every other franchise these days are going down the "omg forget everything you know!" route.

Though maybe it's nothing new. SEGA f*cked up Phantasy Star, Shining Force and Sonic ages ago. SquareEnix only recently ruined Final Fantasy (IMO) by making it "new" and "appealing" to a different crowd. Before that they pissed on Seiken Densetsu for a number of years. Capcom erased every bit of horror from its Resident Evil series and turned it into a straightforward 3rd person shooter. Konami outsourced basically EVERYTHING and destroyed Silent Hill in doing so.

Now, the Castlevania reboot actually turned out fine. The Devil May Cry reboot on the other hand, looks downright worrying. Meanwhile, Nintendo claims that they're doing something completely different with Zelda: Skyward Sword. It doesn't look too different from what I've seen, so I expect streamlined, simplified gameplay and gimmicks a plenty. Metroid Other M, while not a reboot, makes me worried for the future of Metroid. And what will become of Metal Gear? GTA? Waaaaah!  :(

LOL, I am exaggerating now, I know. But still!
Lara Croft totally looks like a Ninja Theory character in that picture though. Dunno... maybe I'm just having a really bad day today. It's not Lara's fault. Nor any of the above mentioned games.  :-\
Title: Re: A Survivor is Born, Lara Croft Reboot
Post by: Kale on December 08, 2010, 02:40:41 AM
Tomb Raider always sucked.... so it can't really get much worse for me since it's already at the point of play it for a few seconds for a crotch shot >.> then quit lol.

Though that recent XBLA looks a bit intriguing.
Title: Re: A Survivor is Born, Lara Croft Reboot
Post by: shelverton. on December 08, 2010, 02:58:55 AM
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They could be siblings.
Title: Re: A Survivor is Born, Lara Croft Reboot
Post by: Kingshango on December 08, 2010, 03:11:08 AM
No way, the new Lara looks way better than her cartoony look.

Dante's new looks like a big piece of emo, Scott Pillgrim reading indian style in the aisle, hot topic wearing, anorexic, Edward Cullen piece of molten lava grade A monkey crap!
Title: Re: A Survivor is Born, Lara Croft Reboot
Post by: shelverton. on December 08, 2010, 03:30:36 AM

Well, I said siblings, not twins. But yeah, Lara is definitely the better design. I still see quite a bit of Ninja Theory in her face though, albeit more detailed and overall nicer.
Title: Re: A Survivor is Born, Lara Croft Reboot
Post by: X on December 08, 2010, 03:54:07 AM
Fortunetly there is still one classic franchise that has not been effected by the 'reboot' wave cause there is no need. Metroid.

-X
Title: Re: A Survivor is Born, Lara Croft Reboot
Post by: Kingshango on December 08, 2010, 04:45:48 AM
Fortunetly there is still one classic franchise that has not been effected by the 'reboot' wave cause there is no need. Metroid.

-X

Sheeeet, Other M tarneshed Samus as a character. The only way to fix that IS to reboot Metroid, or else Samus will be forever known as a intergalactic pussy who will only do what men tell her to do..
Title: Re: A Survivor is Born, Lara Croft Reboot
Post by: Dominus on December 08, 2010, 12:19:59 PM
See all the magazine scans here: http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=175919 (http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=175919)


So far the recievement of this Lara has been good in the TR forums, her new biography is closer to the original too

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They could be siblings.

Lara crawled out of a sinking ship so her face is dirty and bloody, and her hair has always been bruntte. Dante no
Title: Re: A Survivor is Born, Lara Croft Reboot
Post by: Kingshango on December 08, 2010, 01:26:07 PM
Oh and the screenshots are in game  :o
http://twitter.com/CrystalDKarl/status/12392847244271616 (http://twitter.com/CrystalDKarl/status/12392847244271616)

And that's not all, the Advent Children team are doing the cutscenes.

http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?p=5054957#post5054957 (http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?p=5054957#post5054957)
Title: Re: A Survivor is Born, Lara Croft Reboot
Post by: shelverton. on December 08, 2010, 04:41:49 PM
Lara crawled out of a sinking ship so her face is dirty and bloody, and her hair has always been bruntte. Dante no

I am not even comparing which one of them are more faithful to the original design (it's obviously Lara, no doubt about it), I'm just saying I got a lil' Ninja Theory feeling from Laras face, and decided to put her next to new Dante to see if I was right or not. I'm obviously stretching it, but that's what I do best :D
Title: Re: A Survivor is Born, Lara Croft Reboot
Post by: Munchy on December 09, 2010, 08:20:32 PM
Never really gave half a crap about Tomb Raider but at least Lara looks far more realistic and is not fugly like her PS1 counterpart.
Title: Re: A Survivor is Born, Lara Croft Reboot
Post by: PFG9000 on December 10, 2010, 01:16:10 PM
Tomb Raider Legend is one of the better games of the last generation.  I had only played the original Tomb Raider, and that only briefly, before Legend came out, but Legend got me into the series.  I'm not sure there was the need for a reboot now, because Legend itself was a reboot.  But I guess we'll have to wait and see if this game feels like Tomb Raider.  I'm getting pretty sick of all the reboots, but hopefully this will have more in common with the source material than Lords of Shadow.
Title: Re: A Survivor is Born, Lara Croft Reboot
Post by: Rugal on December 10, 2010, 03:23:23 PM
Gonna suck. Just like all other "Reboots"
Title: Re: A Survivor is Born, Lara Croft Reboot
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on December 10, 2010, 04:27:45 PM
Not all Reboots suck:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx8jgyQ5AcY# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx8jgyQ5AcY#)
Title: Re: A Survivor is Born, Lara Croft Reboot
Post by: X on December 10, 2010, 05:03:13 PM
Tomb Raider Legend is one of the better games of the last generation.  I had only played the original Tomb Raider, and that only briefly, before Legend came out, but Legend got me into the series. 

Go play Tomb Raider Anniversary. It's essentually the original Tomb Raider with a graphics overhaul and the engine of tomb Raider Legends.

-X
Title: Re: A Survivor is Born, Lara Croft Reboot
Post by: Kale on December 10, 2010, 08:47:27 PM
Not all Reboots suck:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx8jgyQ5AcY# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx8jgyQ5AcY#)

Damn you...... damn you for reminding me of Tony Jay. ='(
Title: Re: A Survivor is Born, Lara Croft Reboot
Post by: PFG9000 on December 11, 2010, 01:54:18 AM
Go play Tomb Raider Anniversary. It's essentually the original Tomb Raider with a graphics overhaul and the engine of tomb Raider Legends.

-X

I've got it on both PS2 and PSP.  Anniversary is well done.  It does exactly what it intended to do and does it well, but I vastly prefer Legend for the endearing characters, well written story/dialog, and awesome soundtrack.  Anniversary has none of that.
Title: Re: A Survivor is Born, Lara Croft Reboot
Post by: X on December 11, 2010, 06:26:20 PM
I've got it on both PS2 and PSP.  Anniversary is well done.  It does exactly what it intended to do and does it well, but I vastly prefer Legend for the endearing characters, well written story/dialog, and awesome soundtrack.  Anniversary has none of that.

And this' exactly true. I was dissapointed in the lack of music. I was really hoping to hear all those classic Tomb raider themes whenever you got to a specific point in the levels, which would then start up the music cue. But allas...the majority of the game is silent. I really loved those tunes too. They convayed the scenes and enviroments to a 'T'.

-X
Title: Re: A Survivor is Born, Lara Croft Reboot
Post by: Dominus on January 04, 2011, 02:48:13 PM
the HD screenshots
http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?p=5119843#post5119843 (http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?p=5119843#post5119843)
Title: Re: A Survivor is Born, Lara Croft Reboot
Post by: shelverton. on January 04, 2011, 03:17:53 PM
the HD screenshots
http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?p=5119843#post5119843 (http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?p=5119843#post5119843)

Well, looking at those screens... this isn't too bad really. I mean, it still looks like Tomb Raider, but darker and less Indiana Jonesey, I guess. Lara looks surprisingly a lot like herself, though dirtier.
Title: Re: A Survivor is Born, Lara Croft Reboot
Post by: X on January 04, 2011, 05:10:00 PM
Those screens give me the impression of a TR Survivor/Resident evil look. But I can still see enough of TR in the mix. All I can say is, Lara is going to need free healthcare after this game.

-X
Title: Re: A Survivor is Born, Lara Croft Reboot
Post by: Mooning Freddy on January 04, 2011, 05:24:33 PM
Screw Lara Croft, I want Bear Grylls: The Game !  

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You play the role of a pissed off British ex-special forces guy, who gets thrown off airplanes randomly across the globe, and have to survive by eating worms, insects, snakes & pretty much everything, and keep yourself warm by slaying innocent animals & rubbing their fat against your body.

Who's with me?
Title: Re: A Survivor is Born, Lara Croft Reboot
Post by: A-Yty on January 04, 2011, 10:58:53 PM
The Reboot Wave finally caught up with the video game industry. It grabbed comics years ago, movies recently and now this. I guess the next target is..books?

About those gruesome deaths..I suppose the DLC will include one where some guy has sex with her corpse?
Title: Re: A Survivor is Born, Lara Croft Reboot
Post by: Munchy on January 05, 2011, 08:40:36 AM
Was I the only one who thought the original Lara Croft looked kinda... mannish?

Also speaking of manly things, Bear Grylls is among the manliest names ever given.