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The Castlevania Dungeon Forums => General Castlevania Discussion => Topic started by: Xenotech on November 05, 2007, 04:36:35 AM
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Who and why :) I'm going with Alucard for 2 reasons
1 - Centuries of experience
2 - He's super kool :D
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I'd have to say his father, Dracula, since hes got some years on his son, has an unknown amount in his magical arsnal, never seems to truely die, reguardless of the facts he gets killed alot. but he cna;t stand up to the power of a whip...
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Saint Germain
its because he pretty much knows what others don't know
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Desmond Belmont.
For he is.
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Maria!!!
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Cornell. Not only was he able to beat a fully powered Dracula, but his powers were more than sufficient to fully revive Dracula after the fact.
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GOKU!
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In Reply To #1
You'd think that with centuries of experience, he would be easily able to handle Dmitrii ::)
Julius is most powerful b/c his magic tears apart the castle in aos
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In Reply To #1
You'd think that with centuries of experience, he would be easily able to handle Dmitrii
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In Reply To #9
Kinda, but Celia's not much of a threat, y'know? As for me, I have to agree with UltraOralox. St. Germain can manipulate time! That's clearly an advantage against any oponent.
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but beaten by a stopwatch.
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In Reply To #11
What?! A worthless magic stopwatch? Germain is the master of all time! Well maybe not but...
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Death: nuff said...you can';t beat him technicly all the belmonts see him twice.
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In Reply To #13
Except Juste and Leon.
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Its what you do when you fight him after all,show him a stop watch and own him.
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Death: nuff said...you can';t beat him technicly all the belmonts see him twice.
Thats almost profound....that is if you mean, first when they beat him and then when they die.
also, for a second i forgot that death was the final boss in LoI.
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In Reply To #13
exactly right =D Death is the end all. He may be a lesser boss than Drac himself but his role is clearly played down for the games. You may be able to beat his physical embodiment but he will always win in the end.
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Untrue.... Both Dracula and Alucard conquered death. They're immortal.
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Untrue.... Both Dracula and Alucard conquered death. They're immortal.
Damn right! You beat me to it I was going to say that after reading these post :D
Alucard - "Yo death suk my ballz I aint dying" :)
Death - :(
Quoted from Castlevania - Alucard poons death
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Alucard got beat down by Trevor Belmont, so I don't think he's the most powerful. But, if one wanted to grasp at straws, I guess it can be..."interpreted" that Grant and maybe Sypha helped Trevor. Or that Alucard was clearly not using full power because he wasn't in his Symphony of the Night get-up : I
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In Reply To #20
I don't think his outfit was the cause ::) But wasn't he under some sort of spell or something? Alucard wasn't really controlling that, right. I don't know, I've only played Drac's Cusre a few times on that Konami pack CD.
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He wasn't under a spell; he was testing Trevor to see if he was worth teaming up with.
As for Successor's comment about Al's outfit, it's a reference to Dawn, where he said he had to change clothes to reach full power as a cheap excuse for the game reusing his Symphony sprite.
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Really? Wasn't he under something? Its been a REALLY long time since I've played it.
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In Reply To #21
It was Grant who was under a spell.
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Going along with that, Alucard needed Trevor's help to defeat Dracula, apparently a task he couldn't do by himself, so...
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In Reply To #18
Thats not true at all theyre vampires theyve already met Death once and were reborn as vampires. Well Drac anyway Al is only HALF vampire he WILL die eventually since he couldnt just magically stop aging at 25 or whatever.
And even Drac has met his final death according to DoS cause they killed him and sealed in the eclipse and he was reborn as Soma... so Death wins again.
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Drac became a vampire by absorbing Walter with the stone. He never had to die to turn, and it seems that recently cv is moving away from the idea of becoming undead vampires after being bitten, but rather getting a slowly progressing disease, seeing as they can be even cured of it in its early stages, and the turning itself takes very long time to finish.
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but rather getting a slowly progressing disease, seeing as they can be even cured of it in its early stages, and the turning itself takes very long time to finish.
:-*
That's EXACTLY how Bram Stoker's Dracula describes it. (in Lucy's transformation) The whole transformation process is one of the things I liked most in the novel, as rather then the one-minute vampirisation presented in most horror movies, in the book, it's a process involving several levels.
1. The bite
2. Illness (a few days)
3. Severe loss of blood, constant tiredness (a few weeks)
4. Death
5. Awakening (some period after death)
Interesting how the vampire "virus" is draining the victim alive, causing him constant blood loss until it dies, and the blood transfusions of Lucy's friends hardly lay off the unpreventable death.
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In Reply To #26
Uh no.... I don't see Alucard aging... Hes still more or less the same in DoS, if you haven't noticed. Hes either immortal or his aging is like 60000000 years for a human second and that'd be more or less the same as immortality anyway.
As for death, I don't know if he became a vampire like Serio said... if so, he never died either. If not, it could be another process. It could be a spell, or anything else that doesn't involve death.
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As for death, I don't know if he became a vampire like Serio said... if so, he never died either. If not, it could be another process. It could be a spell, or anything else that doesn't involve death.
Well Rinaldo said that the crimson stone has a side effect to its usual vampire soul absorbing, and that is, the user of it will also become a vampire once he absorbs a vampire soul as far as I remember.
And the whole egg animation that appears once walter's soul is extracted and offered to Mathias, as stupid as it looked was most likely supposed to be a symbol, possibly of Mathias's change into a vampire, the beginning of his vampirism. Then he immediately started acting as one, fearing of the light, changing into a bat etc.
1. The bite
2. Illness (a few days)
3. Severe loss of blood, constant tiredness (a few weeks)
4. Death
5. Awakening (some period after death)
The cv one doesn't seem to be like that though. But then again, it was varying from game to game too. In Loi Sara's been getting vampiric impulses very quickly, but for example the priest in por seemed to be only tired but otherwise unaffected after roughly the same amount of time, and the twins took well over a year and were still not fully transformed, yet already had lots of power and didn't seem anywhere near dying.
And I'd assume once the infected one dies, it's impossible to revert them since they're just reanimated corpses once they reawaken. If that was the case, healing the sisters would kill them on the spot.
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In Reply To #30
In the 64 games, you had to get a Purifying Crystal, otherwise you slowly started to go Vamp. You were basically on a timer to death... once it reached that point, you'd die and then lose your consciousness to Vampirism.
I believe in the 64 games it took a day for it to take effect, but I'm not certain.
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In Reply To #22
Oh. Well, that just proves how much people today worry about fasion ::)
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In Reply To #31
I always had so damn many of those Purification Crystals that I never found out how long it took.
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He wasn't under a spell; he was testing Trevor to see if he was worth teaming up with.
As for Successor's comment about Al's outfit, it's a reference to Dawn, where he said he had to change clothes to reach full power as a cheap excuse for the game reusing his Symphony sprite.
Umm, yes he was. Alucard was under a spell that was cast by Dracula to turn him evil. If anything, he was probably more powerful and Trevor still defeated him.
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The next time you play the game, pay attention to the dialogue. Or just read his backstory; even the batshit American manual got it right.
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I think Trevor Belmont is the most powerful.
Even though Isaac did what he did (and I still am in denial of that scene, sorry IGA), Trevor was distracted.
So Trevor would be my vote.
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I think Trevor Belmont is the most powerful.
Even though Isaac did what he did (and I still am in denial of that scene, sorry IGA), Trevor was distracted.
So Trevor would be my vote.
You mean stabbing Trevor, kissing him, or both?
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Umm, yes he was. Alucard was under a spell that was cast by Dracula to turn him evil. If anything, he was probably more powerful and Trevor still defeated him.
Ha! I knew I was right!
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But then in Symphony of the Night, Alucard beats fakes of Trevor, Grant, and Sypha at once. They might not have had the intelligence of the originals, but their abilities were actually supperior to the CV3 guys in-game. Trevor and Sypha could switch between sub-weapons and spells, Sypha could float and raise Zombie Trevor, Grant could leap straight up to the ceiling...
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Just because hes under a spell, it doens't make him more powerful, if anything he'd less powerful cuz hes actively trying to fight against it.
And I was right! sohe was under a spell! I'll still play through cv3 with Alucard's way to make sure.
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Oh, brother.
Where do people get the idea that Alucard was under a spell? I've played Castlevania III up to that part more times than I can remember, and there isn't any mention of Alucard being under a spell, or dreaming he was turned into a ghost, for that matter.
But, if you don't believe the game, you're probably not going to believe me, either, so what the hell...
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Just because hes under a spell, it doens't make him more powerful, if anything he'd less powerful cuz hes actively trying to fight against it.
And I was right! sohe was under a spell! I'll still play through cv3 with Alucard's way to make sure.
In Reply To #40
I disagree. I think he would be more powerful by being under a spell cast by Dracula that made him evil. Think of him being like the Hulk. No conscious, no morals, no self control, etc.
Oh, brother.
Where do people get the idea that Alucard was under a spell? I've played Castlevania III up to that part more times than I can remember, and there isn't any mention of Alucard being under a spell, or dreaming he was turned into a ghost, for that matter.
But, if you don't believe the game, you're probably not going to believe me, either, so what the hell...
You know what? I apologize. I checked youtube to double check and it makes no mention of Alucard being under a spell. However, he does say "I'm surprised you beat me." Guess my memory played a trick on me. Maybe it was in the manual, I'll check later. I could have swore it mentioned it in the game. Either way, Trevor still kicked his ass.
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I think the most powerefull character in the whole of the series is Some, one reason that's really simple; He can absorb the souls of others.
So if an enemy would be too strong for him he would only have to gather more souls to increase his power and then he can also absorb the soul of the one who was more powerfull than him before, increasing his power even further.
I wonder what would happen if he were at the frontlines of a war. (soul fest lawl)
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In Reply To #41
well, like i said, i have a bad memory. Its been years sinc i've played cv3. Im replayingit now, not alotbut I am, and I went the Sypha road, I have to restart and go the Alucard road to see.
In Reply To #43
That does make sense, but hes dynamic, he sort of goes from weak to strong, so yea..... And its kind of hard to put that into a sort of battle to see I'm guessing.
Still after seeing Alucard in Symphony I still think hes way overly super powerful over other characters. ut I definitely see how teh whole soul thing would work out for him being most powerful.
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Alucard(Adrian)Tepes. My reasons
1. He uses a sword and a variety of weapons. not like other games, the only game you can use different weapons is Circle Of The Moon, and thats only if you have the right DSS cards.
2. Your a Vampire, instead of being a Vampire Killer.
3.He can summon, I know Hector from Curse Of Darkness can summon too but not some od the things Alucard(Adrian)can.
4. He can transform, thats freakin awesome!!
5. Hes the son of the almighty vampire, dracula, c'mon how cool is that!?
6. and if you think about it, Alucard being 1/2 Vampire, hes Immortal.
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1. He uses a sword and a variety of weapons. not like other games, the only game you can use different weapons is Circle Of The Moon, and thats only if you have the right DSS cards.
So can Soma. :P
2. Your a Vampire, instead of being a Vampire Killer.
While Soma's a Dark Lord, Dracula incarnated. :o
3.He can summon, I know Hector from Curse Of Darkness can summon too but not some od the things Alucard(Adrian)can.
In dos Soma can summon stuff too.
4. He can transform, thats freakin awesome!!
Guess what Soma can do. :P
5. Hes the son of the almighty vampire, dracula, c'mon how cool is that!?
Not as cool as being Dracula himself. :o
That said i go with Death. Sure, his earthly incarnation may be weak to the vampire killer and such, but then there's his astral body, which cannot be destroyed and will reap any of the heroes's souls once they die. :P
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Hector why!
1. He can create weapons
2. He got them devils he can use
3. he is pimp
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bad guys
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Dracula
Death
Dmitri Blinovi
Celia Fortner
Graham Jones
Dario Bossi
Count Brauner
Stella
Loretta
Elizabeth Bartley
Shaft
Maxim Kischine
Issac
Walter Bernhard
Joachim Armster
Succubus
Drolta Tzunetes
Carmilla
good guys
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? St. Germain (we're not really sure how powerful he is atm)
Soma
Julius Belmont
Alucard
Yoko Belnades
Jonathan Morris
Charlotte Aulin
John Morris
Eric Lecarde
Quincey Morris
Maria Renard
Richter Belmont
Juste Belmont
Simon Belmont
Soleiyu Belmont
Christopher Belmont
Hector
Trevor Belmont
Sypha Belnades
Grant Danasty
Julia LaForeze
Leon Belmont
Rinaldo Gandolfi
Hammer
Vincent Dorin
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hecter or Alucard has my vote ..
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I would have to say Dracula. The world pretty much revolves around him.
As for Hector...His ability to defeat Dracula was taken to be a sign that the resurrection wasn't complete. His moves may appear powerful, but it is more show than substance.
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I guess it can be "interpreted"...that Alucard was clearly not using full power
My thoughts exactly. Alucard fought Trevor but when he realized Trevor's power was unfathomable to him he conceded defeat and decided to help him on his quest. If Trevor did beat him in the fight he'd be dead. I also think Richter was indeed stronger than Alucard due to his Belmont lineage, and when you kill him in SOTN getting the bad ending he can't fight at full strength because shaft is controlling him and his will is not his own. He doesn't want to kill Alucard but he is being used like a puppet. I also think that fighting for good and not evil has a bearing on a Belmont's power.
I think the most powerful character is Julius, he's the last Belmont we see and his power is immense, Soma couldn't even "truly" beat him, and he's responsible for locking Dracula's castle in an eclipse.
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Soma, Jonathan Morris (Portrait of Ruin), Hector and Schneider could all use swords (even if Schneider doesn't count in canon).
That said, it's hard to pin an approximation of power in the whole series because each game has its own system of health, damage and whatnot.
I suppose though it would go without saying that Julius would have to be pretty strong to completely wipe Dracula out FOREVAR (regardless of his reincarnation as Soma, and of the fact that he had help from the Hakubas).
Dracula still gets my vote for most powerful, though. In fact, I think he's only ever been beaten three or four times while at full power (Trevor in 1476, Christopher in 1591, Quincey Morris in 1897 if you count the novel, and Julius in 1999)... I'd say Simon beat him at his full power, but the original game story conflicts with Chronicles about whether or not his resurrection was natural or the work of an evil cult.
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It's not like he revives on his own. Every 100 years the powers of good weaken greatly, so the way to bring Drac back becomes very easy, such as some random cult spilling blood of innocents in the ruins of his castle or such. I don't think Drac was really just getting up from a long sleep every 100 years. :P
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I think the most powerful character is Julius, he's the last Belmont we see and his power is immense, Soma couldn't even "truly" beat him, and he's responsible for locking Dracula's castle in an eclipse.
It was the Hakuba Shrine priest who sealed the castle in the solar eclipse.
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It was the Hakuba Shrine priest who sealed the castle in the solar eclipse.
oh your right I forgot about that.
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In Reply To #51
Well, according to how Thomas sees it, it would make him more powerful wouldn't it? Like he said, think of the hulk >.> I mean you don't have to agree with him, nor I for that matter, but Theres 2 ways of looking at Richter under a spell.
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So can Soma. :P
While Soma's a Dark Lord, Dracula incarnated. :o
In dos Soma can summon stuff too.
Guess what Soma can do. :P
Not as cool as being Dracula himself. :o
That said i go with Death. Sure, his earthly incarnation may be weak to the vampire killer and such, but then there's his astral body, which cannot be destroyed and will reap any of the heroes's souls once they die. :P
Well I know Soma can do all that too. Im not sexist I just perfer Alucard over Her. and Ur right about the Dracula thing
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In Reply To #57
Well I know Soma can do all that too. Im not sexist I just perfer Alucard over Her. and Ur right about the Dracula thing
Uh...who's 'Her'?
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In Reply To #58
Yeah soma's a guy.
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Well I know Soma can do all that too. Im not sexist I just perfer Alucard over Her. and Ur right about the Dracula thing
Uh oh...... someones been doing lewd things to someone they thought was a different sex.... almost like Frozen Halfs >.>
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I meant him, its a Typo XD My mind was out of it thats day
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Simon Belmont! Because he was a member of the N-Team!
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Sonia Belmont! ;D
Joking. Even though I do like her.
I think the whole thing about any Belmont being able to beat Alucard simply because they can take down Dracula is a bit flawed though. I think somebody mentioned in another thread that we don't know for certain if the Vampire Killer is just as effective against half-breeds. Plus I seriously don't think Alucard was really out to kill Trevor in CV3. Who knows what would have happened if he wasn't holding back.
I think it's a wash. Though the Belmonts have a higher score against the big guy, there's also the ending of SotN to consider.
I think a better argument would be who is the most powerful Belmont? In which case, I'd have to go with Simon. That motherfucker killed Dracula and then resurrected him just so he could kill him again. Showoff! :D
- John
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Female Dracula.
Hell no! I've always hated that cancelled game and those characters. They would've made the Belmont pansies with that Tim Curry looking Belmont. *read his story and you'll find
out*
Anyway, I'm sure it's Trevor, for he was the first one to defeat Dracula in his cursed, immortal state.
Such a Mr. Badass
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Sonia Belmont! ;D
Joking. Even though I do like her.
I think the whole thing about any Belmont being able to beat Alucard simply because they can take down Dracula is a bit flawed though. I think somebody mentioned in another thread that we don't know for certain if the Vampire Killer is just as effective against half-breeds. Plus I seriously don't think Alucard was really out to kill Trevor in CV3. Who knows what would have happened if he wasn't holding back.
I think it's a wash. Though the Belmonts have a higher score against the big guy, there's also the ending of SotN to consider.
I think a better argument would be who is the most powerful Belmont? In which case, I'd have to go with Simon. That motherfucker killed Dracula and then resurrected him just so he could kill him again. Showoff! :D
- John
Yeah and what's funny is he was injured and dieing and he killed dracula easier and faster then when he was normal. ;D
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In Reply To #65
Imagine Alucard going up to every Castlevania character, in their respective games and strength, looked them in the eye, then swung his Crissegram. What would happen? They would get hit 15 times and die.
If Alucard was older at the time of CV3, He'd probably have a lot more of spells, and his other shapeshifting forms. I'd really like to see Trevor try to do something to Alucard when he's floating above him as mist, switches to bat, does that swift fly bat move near Trevor, shifts into human form, and hits him with a thrust from his Obsidian Blade or something. Too bad that wasn't the case, and Alucard in the NES days had how many attacks and different moves vs Trevor? like 4? I don't know for sure, since I never played that part in CV3.
Alucard, Soma, and Simon are the strongest from my point of view.
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In Reply To #66
More like, if that game were on a system with better graphics processing capability and more memory, you would have seen Alucard kick some serious ass. ;)
But OTOH, let's keep in mind that you also playing against the shitty AI in SotN. With two human players, it is a tossup as to who would win.
Wasn't it stated somewhere that the Belmont's are supposed to get stronger with each generation? So Richter having all those moves kinda makes sense and dovetails with each gaming system being more advanced than the next.
- John
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In Reply To #66
WEll, in CV3, Trevor wouldn't stand a chance, but have you seen him in CoD?? He could totally beat Alucard there.
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In Reply To #27
Actually, Mathias (Dracula) was already a vampire when Leon beat Walter. Mathias was turned by the Crimson Stone because like the Ebony Stone, it carries the "curse of the vampires". What happened after Leon beat Walter is that Death took Walter's soul and gave it Mathias who used the Crimson Stone to convert Walter's soul into power for himself.
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In Reply To #29
Alucard doesn't age. He is a Dhampir (half vampire and half human). Alucard inherits his vampire traits such as immortality and inhuman strength from his father. But because he is half human, he is easier to kill and may not resurrect if he is killed.
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In Reply To #29
Alucard doesn't age. He is a Dhampir (half vampire and half human). Alucard inherits his vampire traits such as immortality and inhuman strength from his father. But because he is half human, he is easier to kill and may not resurrect if he is killed.
You don't know that, since there is no evidence of it, but of course there isn't any evidence of to the contrary either.
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In Reply To #43
I sort of agree. Soma does have potential, but he lacks experience and once he is out of mortal danger, he losses all the abilities he had absorbed. In essence, I think that Alucard is the most powerful. He has all the powers his father has and unlike his father, he has never been killed. The only problem is that he isn't the most agile individual. Then again the clothing he wears isn't exactly meant for agile movement.
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In Reply To #51
Yes and No. Soma didn't kill Julius because he didn't want to. He was just defending himself. And by the way, Julius didn't seal away the castle on his own. As he said, he had help. This help was probably from Alucard and some other people.
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In Reply To #13
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No question it's Death. In the ultimate view of things, Death will always, ALWAYS, win the waiting game.
Vampires may be "immortal," but Death owns their souls.
Sure, his earthly manifestation may be a weak pile of bones, but the second you get hit by a Medusa-head and thrown into a pit, jump just a second to early, or forget to bring the right weapon to a fight, guess who'll be there to greet you in the end....
When there is nothing else, there will be Death. (and maybe taxes...)
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In Reply To #65
Imagine Alucard going up to every Castlevania character, in their respective games and strength, looked them in the eye, then swung his Crissegram. What would happen? They would get hit 15 times and die.
If Alucard was older at the time of CV3, He'd probably have a lot more of spells, and his other shapeshifting forms. I'd really like to see Trevor try to do something to Alucard when he's floating above him as mist, switches to bat, does that swift fly bat move near Trevor, shifts into human form, and hits him with a thrust from his Obsidian Blade or something. Too bad that wasn't the case, and Alucard in the NES days had how many attacks and different moves vs Trevor? like 4? I don't know for sure, since I never played that part in CV3.
Alucard, Soma, and Simon are the strongest from my point of view.
Well in symphony though I always rationalized Alucard beating dracula as a result of it not being a natural dracula resurrection and he isn't at 100% power since Shaft forced another resurrection again after the 100 year natural one in Rondo. Granted Dracula was still crazy powerful but I don't think it's like when Trevor/Ralph, Simon, Chris, or Richter beat him. :)
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In Reply To #64
LOL! I seen CG renders at DeviantArt that look better than that render. Though, I'm lead to believe that THAT specific art of Female Dracula was meant to be a sorta concept art/prototype. If you view the trailer, they show a vampire woman(you really don't see her much, mostly just silhouette) who has her hair down. She reminds me of Elizabeth Bartley. THAT design kinda looked alright(though we didn't really see it too well). The whole "I don't know if I'm a vampire or some bride of Frankenstein wannabe?" thing was just too horrible to even be considered a design for Castlevania. I'd like to think(LIKE to think) that the CG designers were just farting around with the programs.
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In Reply To #74
Actually, according to Lament, Death is owned by the holder of the Crimson stone, and Dracula owns him. So he can't be the best.
Not to mention, Death mightnot be Death. He might just be a demon that took the name of Death.
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In Reply To #74
Actually, according to Lament, Death is owned by the holder of the Crimson stone, and Dracula owns him. So he can't be the best.
Not to mention, Death mightnot be Death. He might just be a demon that took the name of Death.
I've never heard that before is it stated in LOI cuz I may have just missed it. :)
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IIRC, Death says it at the very end, when he "betrays" Walter.
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ah okay, it's been so long since I've played it I'd totally forgotten.
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In Reply To #80
Well, I couldve remembered wrong, god knows I have a terrible memory.
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I'd check but I recently accidentally broke my ps2 when I was trying to mod it and I have to buy a new one. :-[
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It's Mathias who betrays Walter, not Death. Mathias had a deal of some sort with Walter (Walter mentions at one point "It's just like that knight said" and death is no knight), and what other deal could walter want than immortality?
The way I see it, Mathias made a deal with Walter, so that once he does everything according to his master plan he'll have his eternal servant, Death, forget about him and his soul, thus letting him resurrect once he dies.
Of course Mathias had no plans to keep his promise, since he needed the soul of a powerful vampire. And then there's that whole silly "egg" animation which was more than likely supposed to symbolise the rebirth of Mathias as a vampire.
Anyway I still stand by my decision, Death is the most powerful. Even if Dracula owns him, he only owns his earthly manifestation. Once Drac dies in 1999 I guess he also has a non-planned meeting with mr. bonehead.
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It's Mathias who betrays Walter, not Death. Mathias had a deal of some sort with Walter (Walter mentions at one point "It's just like that knight said" and death is no knight), and what other deal could walter want than immortality?
The way I see it, Mathias made a deal with Walter, so that once he does everything according to his master plan he'll have his eternal servant, Death, forget about him and his soul, thus letting him resurrect once he dies.
Of course Mathias had no plans to keep his promise, since he needed the soul of a powerful vampire. And then there's that whole silly "egg" animation which was more than likely supposed to symbolise the rebirth of Mathias as a vampire.
Anyway I still stand by my decision, Death is the most powerful. Even if Dracula owns him, he only owns his earthly manifestation. Once Drac dies in 1999 I guess he also has a non-planned meeting with mr. bonehead.
Thanks Serio, okay so it's not the stone that controls death it's Mathias himself. Hmm I hope this is explained in a later game. I think it'd be cool if Mathias made a deal with the devil or something. :)
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I know I have a bad memory, but I am very sure Death said he served the holder of teh Crimson stone, that could either mean he serves the one who holds it or Dracula, who holds it.
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Yeah, I didn't mean Death was controlled by Mathias just because. I didn't mention the stone bit since it wasn't relevant to what i was saying.
The eternal servant part was just taken from one of the games' descriptions. :P
Perhaps what i said was a bit vague too, since i used too many 'he's.
The way I see it, Mathias made a deal with Walter, so that once he (Walter) does everything according to his (Mathias's) master plan he'll (Mathias) have his eternal servant, Death, forget about him (Walter) and his soul, thus letting him (Walter) resurrect once he dies.
Hence Walter being so sure he'll be able to resurrect. I don't think anyone in the cv realm can just cheat Death and resurrect, with Drac being an exception since he controls Death.
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Yeah, I didn't mean Death was controlled by Mathias just because. I didn't mention the stone bit since it wasn't relevant to what i was saying.
The eternal servant part was just taken from one of the games' descriptions. :P
Perhaps what i said was a bit vague too, since i used too many 'he's.
Hence Walter being so sure he'll be able to resurrect. I don't think anyone in the cv realm can just cheat Death and resurrect, with Drac being an exception since he controls Death.
:P
oh okay thanks.
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The answer is obvious. Despite his numerous defeats - Dracula.
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Gaaah! So much arguement on the most powerful character. You know what? I think Vincent Dorin is the most powerful character! There!
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Chuck Norris.
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In Reply To #90
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Ladies and gentlemen,it's time to draw a conclusion...
The most powerful character of the game iiiiiiiiiiis YOU!!!
Without your control,the Hero would never dodge any enemy's attack or power-up himself;Without your wisdom,the Hero would never find the way to kick the Boss's ass;Without your financial support,this game might be a legendary history......
YOU!ALL OF YOU!!Are the soul of all Heroes,you are the most important part of the game,it's no doubt that you're the most powerful character!
Thank you!!