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The Castlevania Dungeon Forums => Fan Stuff => Topic started by: Odile Kuronuma on February 25, 2011, 03:40:30 PM
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This is my version of the artwork she did for the Majin novel. Hope you like it :)
(http://th05.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2011/056/1/2/majin_by_lisaftepes-d3ae19w.jpg)
sorry my scanner is too small for this kind of work.
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You have a great deal of technical skill with your artwork, and I suspect you drew line work for this and then did it piece by piece, is that right?
My one critic comment on it though is that I cannot tell if it is a man or woman, and I really abhor it when Asian art is like that. I despise the ambiguity of masculinity and femininity. I want men to be clearly men and women to be clearly women.
I don't know who it is and don't know anything about the story you reference.
Still I would give it around a 7 or 8 out of 10.
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The highly detailed and defined eyes and lips contrast greatly with the rest of the body and hair. The body and hair are much much softer, with much less definition. It really looks like the body was left incomplete, without its shading and contrast completed. The face seems much more refined just based on the skin shading and details. This also contrasts with the sharper and more defined background. The main torso itself looks almost slapped on after the head and arm were done. It seems to have been made to fit the positions of the two, resulting in a misshapen and disproportionate look.
Despite that, it's pretty good.
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Pretty good job, keep at it! We really feel the Kojima inspiration!
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Well for my defense it's the first time i use acrylics, who unlike oil paint doesn't allow you to do a lot of changes to your painting . The contrast you're talking about was there in the original painting too. Maybe if you see the original you'd understand that the face was supposed to be detailed while the rest of the body was supposed to be fading. I only tried to follow what Kojima did . Her characters are always androgynous, so yeah it's hard to know if it's a man or a woman. I gotta admit i had a hard time with the shading, but overall i'm pretty satisfied with the result, considering this was my first real painting.I'm glad that some of you liked it,and commented on it.
Thanks for the feedback :).
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i see a yellow frog in a ice cube
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Sorry pal, Imageshack is buggy. It should be fixed now.
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That painting is great! Ignore negative feedback. You're very talented.
Don't know about Ayami Kojima, but this style is very surreal, kinda like a combination of styles like Pablo Picasso's and Salvador Dali's.
I don't know much about art, but I would have payed quite a few bucks for that painting.
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thanks :).
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I wasn't trying to be a jerk, just to let you know, Odile.
Incidentally your art rather reminds me of some of the art from the 1890s. At that time, 'japan-esq' styles were in vogue and Europeans were imitating it with Aquatints and drawings.
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I don't know what to say of this, and I am not an art professional, so I will refrain from giving any criticism.
Good work, OP.
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I wasn't trying to be a jerk, just to let you know, Odile.
Incidentally your art rather reminds me of some of the art from the 1890s. At that time, 'japan-esq' styles were in vogue and Europeans were imitating it with Aquatints and drawings.
You mean Impressionism?
....This looks nothing like Impressionism. First you said it yourself, the artists mostly used watercolors or oil paint(using the alla prima technique).I used acrylics, and they don't give the same effects as the mediums i mentioned. The only thing that you can compare to Impressionism, or rather Pointillism, is those blue and white dots, and that's it.
And don't worry, it takes more than that to make me feel uncomfortable or have doubts about my capacities ;)
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You mean Impressionism?
....This looks nothing like Impressionism. First you said it yourself, the artists mostly used watercolors or oil paint(using the alla prima technique).I used acrylics, and they don't give the same effects as the mediums i mentioned. The only thing that you can compare to Impressionism, or rather Pointillism, is those blue and white dots, and that's it.
And don't worry, it takes more than that to make me feel uncomfortable or have doubts about my capacities ;)
No, I don't mean impressionism. I mean the art of the Decadents and the Symbolists.
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Symbolism is prolly the closest, since it uses imagination and spirituality in reaction to naturalism and realism. I don't know what kind of techniques they used, but it seems to me that the ones who tried to copy the Japanese prints were the Impressionists. It doesn't matter because Impressionism and Sysmbolism were around at almost the same time. They could have used the same techniques, but with different subjects and different philosophy.
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I'm finally able to view this image!
I really, really love the eyes... looking at them reminded me immediately of Ayami's art. I think you really captured the essence there. My guess is it's a woman, but I'm not sure who exactly you're drawing...care to explain further? I'm also looking forward to more of your art!
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I'm finally able to view this image!
I really, really love the eyes... looking at them reminded me immediately of Ayami's art. I think you really captured the essence there. My guess is it's a woman, but I'm not sure who exactly you're drawing...care to explain further? I'm also looking forward to more of your art!
Hehe thanks :). My main concern was to draw the eyes in the way Ayami made them, and it wasn't easy. Sorry to diappoint you, but it's a guy. When i first saw her drawing i thought it was a girl too. Because his face is so gentle. You can see the original drawing here, the one Ayami did:
(http://castlevania.armster.org/kojima/majin2.jpg)
It's for a novel called Majin by Kikuchi Hideyuki, the author behind Vampire Hunter D. She illustrated a lot of his novels.
I made this drawing because i think it's interesting to learn how to paint by copying other works. It's not very creative, but it's still challenging because you have to figure out how to obtain some effects. And as you can see, i still have a lot to learn. I'm still planning to make other drawings inspired of her work( copy her work in other words). Not only because i'm learning how to paint, but also because i'm a huge fan of her work. She's my favorite artist.
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I really like it BECAUSE the androgyny. I don't understand why some people - even at this day and age - are so obsessed with people looking stereotypically male or female. Besides, this is inspired by Ayami so it makes sense you couldn't really tell if it was a man or woman. Which gives it more depth, IMO. Anyway, good work!
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I really like it BECAUSE the androgyny. I don't understand why some people - even at this day and age - are so obsessed with people looking stereotypically male or female. Besides, this is inspired by Ayami so it makes sense you couldn't really tell if it was a man or woman. Which gives it more depth, IMO. Anyway, good work!
Ha, jokes on you.
Everyone is obsessed with people looking androgynous in Asia right now.
I am fine with androgynous characters, but I don't like it if there are ONLY androgynous characters.
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Over the years to my mind, 'androgynous' has come to mean 'overtly gay'.
I don't doubt the skill of the artist, and I don't give them an F in my gradebook or anything, its just in my experience most of the series that have several/most/all androgynous characters are targeted towards an overtly gay audience.
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Over the years to my mind, 'androgynous' has come to mean 'overtly gay'.
I don't doubt the skill of the artist, and I don't give them an F in my gradebook or anything, its just in my experience most of the series that have several/most/all androgynous characters are targeted towards an overtly gay audience.
I'd have to disagree with that. Most fans of androgynous characters are actually females, not gays.
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I really like it BECAUSE the androgyny. I don't understand why some people - even at this day and age - are so obsessed with people looking stereotypically male or female. Besides, this is inspired by Ayami so it makes sense you couldn't really tell if it was a man or woman. Which gives it more depth, IMO. Anyway, good work!
In fairness androgynous characters are fine. But they just seem out of place in the CV universe in terms of location and the time they take place in (Medieval Romania). Having such people in a CV game every now and then is fine. But if it's one game after another, then it's no-long CV. Instead it becomes shoujo which I believe doesn't quite fit the type of genre that CV was naturally depicted as. So, an androgynous character or two is fine in between a few games and even better if they are women.
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Having such people in a CV game every now and then is fine. But if it's one game after another, then it's no-long CV.
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Those are my sentiments too. I don't wish for CV to be filled with androgynous characters, especially when it comes to the Belmonts. Alucard is fine because of his otherworldly origins, but that formula shouldn't be used repeatedly in the series.
Also, there is a difference between being androgynous and being effeminate. The latter type is what I can't stand (Aeon being one such example).
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I don't find Belmonts androgynous, well except Juste who looks too much like Alucard and maybe Leon . I find Richter and Trevor's artwork quite masculine.It's true they don't have strong jaws, but their eyebrows are more masculine then let's say Alucard's eyebrows. I know it sounds silly but it's those little details that makes the difference for me between a really androgynous character(Alucard) and masculine characters(Trevor Richter Julius etc).Besides it's part of Ayami's style. All her work features androgynous characters.
On the other hand I really liked OOE's artist, and it's nice once in a while to get something different and that doesn't look androgynous . And the art is good too.It fits the gothic atmosphere. So I'd like to see him work on CV again.
I'll always like Ayami's artwork, but her art becomes repetitive with each CV. Having another artist do the artwork won't hurt the series. As long as his art is good and fits the mood in CV.
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I'll agree about Julius. He was far more masculine then the others. Ayami should stick with that path a little more when it comes to dudes in CV.
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That looks amazing ! Well done!
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I don't find Belmonts androgynous, well except Juste who looks too much like Alucard and maybe Leon . I find Richter and Trevor's artwork quite masculine.It's true they don't have strong jaws, but their eyebrows are more masculine then let's say Alucard's eyebrows. I know it sounds silly but it's those little details that makes the difference for me between a really androgynous character(Alucard) and masculine characters(Trevor Richter Julius etc).Besides it's part of Ayami's style. All her work features androgynous characters.
On the other hand I really liked OOE's artist, and it's nice once in a while to get something different and that doesn't look androgynous . And the art is good too.It fits the gothic atmosphere. So I'd like to see him work on CV again.
I'll always like Ayami's artwork, but her art becomes repetitive with each CV. Having another artist do the artwork won't hurt the series. As long as his art is good and fits the mood in CV.
Yes I was referring to Juste. Hmm...your point about eyebrows is really interesting. Now I'm going to take a good look again at how Ayami drew the eyebrows of her characters :)
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OK :)