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Title: SoTN's the Tyrfing Sword
Post by: Grim_Creeper on March 02, 2011, 09:36:47 PM
Long ages ago, when I had a PS2, and had SoTN, I heard somewhere, some way, that there was a means of uncursing the 'cursed sword of darkness', Tyrfing.

True or False?

If its true, how?

If its true, what is the effect and power of the uncursed Tyrfing?

This information wouldn't be considered spoiler would it? I mean the game came out in the 90s and all.

Note that this question applies to both the NA port of the game and the original Japan port of the game.
Title: Re: SoTN's the Tyrfing Sword
Post by: X on March 02, 2011, 10:57:18 PM
I just looked it up. No dice dude. It says the only "useful" dark sword in the game is the Mormegil.

-X
Title: Re: SoTN's the Tyrfing Sword
Post by: Grim_Creeper on March 02, 2011, 11:01:40 PM
Would be a nice change for a fan game based on SoTN though, wouldn't it?
Title: Re: SoTN's the Tyrfing Sword
Post by: Koutei on March 02, 2011, 11:08:56 PM
False. Nothing is written in Japanese official guide book.

This sword is used to enjoy the difficulty.
Title: Re: SoTN's the Tyrfing Sword
Post by: Grim_Creeper on March 02, 2011, 11:19:19 PM
Well turning in a different direction, could it work as a side quest of a SoTN fan game? By that I mean Alucard goes off to room number XXX and uses Item Z on game element Y. Cinematic. Sword usable as a weapon now because its no longer cursed. How strong it would be or what it would do I couldn't say, I can say that Tyrfing is from Nordic mythology and belongs to Tyr. However he of course looses it ultimately in a story thats to long to quote in full here.
Title: Re: SoTN's the Tyrfing Sword
Post by: crisis on March 02, 2011, 11:29:27 PM
Maybe upon entering the confessional, instead of the ghost priest attacking you he would uncurse the Tyrfing, but only if you're wearing certain equipment or a specific jewel?
Title: Re: SoTN's the Tyrfing Sword
Post by: Grim_Creeper on March 02, 2011, 11:31:18 PM
Perhaps the reason it was cursed is because it was used to kill the Priest and by seeing it being wielded against the one who killed him, the conditions of the curse are validated. That way theres no need to edit his sprite at all. He appears and sits down, makes the holy sign, cue sound effect, cue message that Tyrfing is no longer cursed. This would also negate the need to write in a new item.
Title: Re: SoTN's the Tyrfing Sword
Post by: X on March 02, 2011, 11:35:35 PM
Well turning in a different direction, could it work as a side quest of a SoTN fan game? By that I mean Alucard goes off to room number XXX and uses Item Z on game element Y. Cinematic. Sword usable as a weapon now because its no longer cursed.

This sounds like the curse sword 1 from D&D Shadow over Mystara. You find the first cursed sword, swing it about 45 to 50 times (yes it hurts you unless you're the priest character) and the cursed sword morphs into the most powerful sword in the game.

-X
Title: Re: SoTN's the Tyrfing Sword
Post by: Grim_Creeper on March 02, 2011, 11:38:08 PM
Interestingly, though I play D&D, I've never actually played that game all the way through, its sheer chance that this has come about.
Title: Re: SoTN's the Tyrfing Sword
Post by: Asgardwolf on March 03, 2011, 05:36:53 AM
Long ages ago, when I had a PS2, and had SoTN, I heard somewhere, some way, that there was a means of uncursing the 'cursed sword of darkness', Tyrfing.

True or False?

If its true, how?

If its true, what is the effect and power of the uncursed Tyrfing?
The Tyrfing can't be uncursed, It's a Dark Elemental Sword, not really useful but maybe if you want to make your game more challenging you can play with it, But if you need a Dark Elemental Sword you will prefer to get the Morgemil in the Catacombs after defeating Granfaloon.
Title: Re: SoTN's the Tyrfing Sword
Post by: Grim_Creeper on March 03, 2011, 06:54:55 AM
Not to start a flame war or be an ass, but I am already aware that the Tyrfing is a weak essentially useless weapon. I was simply seeking to confirm whether or not it can be uncursed.

Another possible fan-made way to uncurse it is to kill 572 enemies with it. (ko-na-mi).

The morgemil is a good sword. Honestly though I farm a certain enemy and get the Mourneblade as soon as I can. Or the Crissaegrim.
Title: Re: SoTN's the Tyrfing Sword
Post by: Kale on March 03, 2011, 01:12:14 PM

Another possible fan-made way to uncurse it is to kill 572 enemies with it. (ko-na-mi).


wha?

5 is go
7 is nana (so it sort of works)
and 2 is ni

so all you'd get is a go na mi. ::) Am I missing something?
Title: Re: SoTN's the Tyrfing Sword
Post by: Grim_Creeper on March 03, 2011, 03:25:54 PM
Yeah theres some number combination that equals Konami and I don't remember what it is right now.
Title: Re: SoTN's the Tyrfing Sword
Post by: thernz on March 03, 2011, 04:03:57 PM
It's actually 573.
Title: Re: SoTN's the Tyrfing Sword
Post by: Grim_Creeper on March 03, 2011, 05:20:28 PM
What I was trying to say is that like in a fan game if you kill 573 enemies (only the killing strike), with the Tyrfing sword (which is edited so that it does function but only does a small amount of damage), the sword becomes uncursed.
Title: Re: SoTN's the Tyrfing Sword
Post by: Kale on March 03, 2011, 05:43:08 PM
yea, i got that, but im lost at that whole equal konami or something.
Title: Re: SoTN's the Tyrfing Sword
Post by: Grim_Creeper on March 03, 2011, 06:03:28 PM
Theres some numbers to language equalization that spells the word Konami.
Title: Re: SoTN's the Tyrfing Sword
Post by: JiPrime on March 04, 2011, 09:40:48 PM
Tyrfing is the weapon specifically designed by IGA to troll the player.

At least that's how I felt.
Title: Re: SoTN's the Tyrfing Sword
Post by: bucky on March 09, 2011, 02:00:15 AM
Tyrfing is the weapon specifically designed by IGA to troll the player.

At least that's how I felt.
I always figured this was basically the point. Similar to the Alucart items, it's meant to be cruddy and is also an example of the game's odd sense of humor. :)

But I also always appreciated the Tyrfing, if only because it's one of the many references to all sorts of mythos they crammed in there. SotN is a fun game for 'spot the mythology', and the Tyrfing is lifted directly from Norse. Here's the wikipedia description of it:

"...The Dwarves made the sword, and it shone and gleamed like fire. However, in revenge they cursed it so that it would kill a man every time it was drawn and that it would be the cause of three great evils. They finally cursed it so that it would also kill Svafrlami himself."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrfing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrfing)

The SotN item description is "Cursed dark sword", which keeps it accurate enough! Pretty random but neat detail to put into the game.
Title: Re: SoTN's the Tyrfing Sword
Post by: X on March 09, 2011, 11:28:36 AM
I always figured this was basically the point. Similar to the Alucart items

Except that the Alucart items were far more useful then the Tyrfing sword. Having all Alucart items equipped boosted your luck.

-X
Title: Re: SoTN's the Tyrfing Sword
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on March 09, 2011, 12:59:04 PM
I always figured this was basically the point. Similar to the Alucart items

Except that the Alucart items were far more useful then the Tyrfing sword. Having all Alucart items equipped boosted your luck.

-X

You make a good point.

The first time i noticed this i had a wtf look on my face thats for sure lol.