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Title: Osama is dead
Post by: Oralox on May 02, 2011, 01:38:06 AM: http://www.tmz.com/2011/05/01/osama-bin-laden-dead-killed-president-barack-obama/ (http://www.tmz.com/2011/05/01/osama-bin-laden-dead-killed-president-barack-obama/)
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Post by: crisis on May 02, 2011, 01:44:32 AM: :o

shit's about to get real in 2012
Title: Re: Osama is dead
Post by: Sindra on May 02, 2011, 01:52:21 AM: AMERICA WINS!

FATALITY!
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Post by: Ridureyu on May 02, 2011, 01:55:54 AM: Congratulations to our armed forces!
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Post by: darkwzrd4 on May 02, 2011, 02:01:05 AM: Quote from: Sindra on May 02, 2011, 01:52:21 AM
AMERICA WINS!

FATALITY!
The war on terror isn't over yet. It's a major blow to the terrorists though.
Title: Re: Osama is dead
Post by: Flame on May 02, 2011, 02:26:23 AM: Quote from: Crisis on May 02, 2011, 01:44:32 AM
:o

shit's about to get real in 2012
Good. Glad I'm not the only one who feels that way.

To add some humor to this though:

IN B4 TRUMP DEMANDS DEATH CERTIFICATE
Title: Re: Osama is dead
Post by: X on May 02, 2011, 02:50:28 AM: Interesting how Bush failed to do this on his watch :P

-X
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Post by: Kingshango on May 02, 2011, 03:21:10 AM: (https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F29.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lkjsa0vvlq1qzu2tdo1_400.gif&hash=959bee8f7fb523150b8aac58a40611480fd44b50)

Obama got 2012 on lock.
Title: Re: Osama is dead
Post by: Kale on May 02, 2011, 03:35:34 AM: Quote from: X on May 02, 2011, 02:50:28 AM
Interesting how Bush failed to do this on his watch :P

-X

You're acting like it was Obama that did it. It was the soldiers, give credit where it's due.
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Post by: GuyStarwind on May 02, 2011, 03:51:14 AM: President Bush killed him on a solo mission into Pakistan. It is reported that the method used to kill him was a throat rip! The only time G Dub came out of his mission was to fire a 95 mph strike from the mound to start a baseball game. After that he was handed back his desert camo and flippers where he proceeded to swim to Pakistan and fulfill his duty to the universe!
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Post by: Kingshango on May 02, 2011, 04:00:46 AM: I can't imagine how the guy who took the shot felt. He's gonna getting mad love when he comes home.
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Post by: Abnormal Freak on May 02, 2011, 04:05:12 AM: I thought Bruce Willis killed him a few years back?
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Post by: GuyStarwind on May 02, 2011, 04:07:58 AM: If this forum had a like option I would press it. Bruce Willis is the best!!!
Title: Re: Osama is dead
Post by: JR on May 02, 2011, 08:33:38 AM: Quote from: Kingshango on May 02, 2011, 04:00:46 AM
I can't imagine how the guy who took the shot felt. He's gonna getting mad love when he comes home.

If I were him, I'd want it to remain unknown to the public. That would be a big target to carry otherwise.

I'm really, really glad they found Osama and put a stop to him, but I can't really celebrate a guy getting killed, I guess. Monster or not.
Title: Re: Osama is dead
Post by: Successor The Cruel on May 02, 2011, 11:35:04 AM: U.S.A.!!! U.S.A.!!! U.S.A.!!! U.S.A.!!! U.S.A.!!! U.S.A!!! U.S.A.!!! U.S.A.!!! U.S.A.!!! U.S.A.!!! U.S.A.!!! U.S.A.!!! U.S.A.!!! U.S.A.!!! U.S.A.!!!
Title: Re: Osama is dead
Post by: uzo on May 02, 2011, 11:38:18 AM: Quote from: Blue Successor on May 02, 2011, 11:35:04 AM
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As much as we completely disagree all the time, I can't say nay to that.

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Title: Re: Osama is dead
Post by: Gunlord on May 02, 2011, 12:55:44 PM: I heard he was buried at sea. Hmmm...hope they took some pictures of the body before they disposed of it, as morbid as that sounds. At least then we'll know for 100% sure he bought it :/
Title: Re: Osama is dead
Post by: Mooning Freddy on May 02, 2011, 01:09:02 PM: Ok, so first of all,
OBAMA GOT OSAMA, OBAMA GOT OSAMA!!
WELL DONE, CONGRATULATIONS!!

That's the best news I've heard in a while.

Second of all,

It's about DAMN time!! He's been hiding from justice for how long, 20 years now?
As far as I know, Bin laden was the most wanted man on the planet even before September 11 2001, even though 9/11 made him so well-known.
Since then, though, I think Osama has been much more a symbol than an actual leader. That's why taking him out has been a thing of honor rather than anything else.

Sindra is right in here, you can be certain that even though Osama's dead, his legacy would, unfortunately, live on.
I think it's ironic and awesome at the same time that President Obama is the one who'll get the credit for taking out Osama. After all, he IS the first black president and is often critisized (by assholes) because of that. So he is a living symbol of equality and democracy, while Osama was a symbol of terrorism and religious coercion.
Title: Re: Osama is dead
Post by: Gunlord on May 02, 2011, 01:18:21 PM: "you can be certain that even though Obama's dead"

Dude....
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Post by: uzo on May 02, 2011, 01:41:08 PM: A lot of people seem to make that typo frequently, myself included.
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Post by: Gunlord on May 02, 2011, 01:55:50 PM: Yeah, I know. Hell, I do it myself every now and then...it's a difference of one letter, pretty easy to make. x_x
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Post by: Mooning Freddy on May 02, 2011, 02:22:53 PM: Oops! Sorry. Fixed. I'm an ass. ;D
Title: Re: Osama is dead
Post by: Sindra on May 02, 2011, 02:24:46 PM: Quote from: Gunlord on May 02, 2011, 12:55:44 PM
I heard he was buried at sea. Hmmm...hope they took some pictures of the body before they disposed of it, as morbid as that sounds. At least then we'll know for 100% sure he bought it :/

They adhered to Islamic tradition of burying the body immediately, probably by cremation and scattering the ashes at sea. Even though Bin Laden was the most hated man in our country, they did credit to the ideals of Islam as a whole.....as well as doing so ASAP more than likely in order to stem the possibility of any efforts by Bin Laden's forces to attempt to retake the body and cause more attacks.

This won't stop terrorism. There's always someone else waiting to step up and take over, and yes this very well may give way to retaliation. However, terrorists will use any excuse to spread hate and violence and would just as well do so because its a Monday rather than Bin Laden dying by our troops. That won't change. You can be cautious, but still manage a high-five to your buddies and a collective fist-pump for America while doing so. I don't condone the idiots who are throwing parties and making this a huge spectacle in a show of overly-ignorant "patriotism", but there is no reason our nation can't share a moment of unity in finally knowing one of the bogeymen of our generation is finally gone for good.

Plus Twitter and Facebook were damn hilarious last night after the news broke.
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Post by: Gunlord on May 02, 2011, 03:22:42 PM: You're quite right, Sindra. IMO I think it's admirable they disposed of the body so quickly. However, I was just thinkin' that unless they took pictures, people will still doubt whether or not we got Bin Ladin...I've heard people say we just faked the whole thing. I get the feeling he might remain a "boogeyman" unless we actuall see photos of his corpse with the hole in his head. T_T
Title: Re: Osama is dead
Post by: Ridureyu on May 02, 2011, 03:51:45 PM: Conspiracy theory e-mails are already filling my inbox. I am sad.

But anyway, yeah - Bin LAden wasn't behind most radical Islamic terrorism, and he's probably already been replaced. BUT he was a pretty major symbol. This is the man who destroyed the World Trade Center and got away with it, making a fool of America, the West, and even Christianity (eh, they drew the parallels first). Now that he's dead, that's the end of "See how weak America is? They can't even catch one man!"

So yeah, it's just symbolic. But it's a good symbol.

But let's answer the question: WHO SHOULD GET CREDIT?

-Specific members of the military who were involved in this operation, from gathering and interpreting intel to actually performing the raid.

-Sources for intel that the US has been receiving since August.

-George W. Bush, for laying the groundwork and starting the operation that eventually led to this.

-Barack Obama, for interpreting this specific intel and overseeing the operation.

And finally:

-The instructor who taught that one Navy SEAL how to aim for the head.
Title: Re: Osama is dead
Post by: X on May 02, 2011, 04:58:35 PM: You're acting like it was Obama that did it. It was the soldiers, give credit where it's due.

You misinterpreted me Kale. I know very well that it was the soldiers that delivered the Coup de grâce (unless the President himself knew where Bin laden was hiding, whet there and delivered the shot himself). But It happened in the Obama administration and not the Bush administration.

-X
Title: Re: Osama is dead
Post by: Joachim on May 02, 2011, 05:32:03 PM: (https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.commondreams.org%2Fheadlines03%2Fimages%2F1030-02.jpg&hash=45777b61e0bf2e895cc359aba922924d9246c62c)

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But It happened in the Obama administration and not the Bush administration.
Obama has also been far more aggressive towards the Afghanistan war than Bush ever was. :)
Title: Re: Osama is dead
Post by: A-Yty on May 02, 2011, 07:18:53 PM: TIME PARADOX
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Post by: knightmere on May 02, 2011, 08:16:45 PM: Thank god, that son of a bitch deserves worse then death for what he's done.
Title: Re: Osama is dead
Post by: Oralox on May 02, 2011, 08:29:38 PM: Quote from: A-Yty on May 02, 2011, 07:18:53 PM
TIME PARADOX
Title: Re: Osama is dead
Post by: Kale on May 03, 2011, 01:22:27 AM: Quote from: X on May 02, 2011, 04:58:35 PM
You're acting like it was Obama that did it. It was the soldiers, give credit where it's due.

You misinterpreted me Kale. I know very well that it was the soldiers that delivered the Coup de grâce (unless the President himself knew where Bin laden was hiding, whet there and delivered the shot himself). But It happened in the Obama administration and not the Bush administration.

-X

Nah I didn't mean that specifically, but Obama wasn't really even the one who first sent the troops over. It was Bush, not that I'd give him credit for it either, unless either of them had to do with finding him or participating in the raid. I got what you mean though, i just want to be snarky about it.

But I wonder if this would really do anything to the "terrorism."
Title: Re: Osama is dead
Post by: Oralox on May 03, 2011, 01:26:00 AM: you guys...lol

Osama Bin Laden - We got him! (South Park) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtAbVZIAz1g#ws)
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Post by: Ridureyu on May 03, 2011, 04:35:00 AM: Bush gets some credit, too. he aid the groundwork and stared he big hunt. Obama got the finalbits of intel and ordered the hit. There's honestly a LOT of creditto go around, and I'm all for non-politically praising people.

I mean, if SEAN HANNITY could say "Thank you, President Obama. Thank you." today on the air, then I thin we could do this without getting political.
Title: Re: Osama is dead
Post by: uzo on May 03, 2011, 10:43:13 AM: Quote from: Ridureyu on May 03, 2011, 04:35:00 AM
SEAN HANNITY

You a New Yorker?
Title: Re: Osama is dead
Post by: X on May 03, 2011, 04:02:29 PM: But I wonder if this would really do anything to the "terrorism."

I don't think so. Terrorism or 'tyranny' is a state of mind and as such, is not limited to one individual. Losing Osama Bin-Laden may have dealt a serious blow to al-Qaeda and the Taliban, but the treat is still out there. So long as people are driven by hate, terrorism will still exist. In order to stop terrorism you need to change their ideologies (easier said then done, I know).

-X
Title: Re: Osama is dead
Post by: Kale on May 04, 2011, 06:05:49 AM: I meant this specific reign of terrorism? I guess you could call it, not all terrorist acts.
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Post by: JR on May 04, 2011, 08:10:24 AM: I'm guessing it'll kill morale in the short term, but it could embolden others to attack, too, so I dunno. I don't think Bin Laden being dead will really hurt Al-Qaeda's ability to plan or carry out major terrorist acts in the future, but I sure as hell hope I'm wrong.
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Post by: Joachim on May 05, 2011, 04:08:13 AM: If Obama doesn't get credit for killing Osama (because he ordered the attack, but didn't carry it out personally), does that mean Osama doesn't get credit for 9/11 (because he ordered the attack, but didn't carry it out personally)?
Title: Re: Osama is dead
Post by: X on May 05, 2011, 05:30:57 AM: If Obama doesn't get credit for killing Osama (because he ordered the attack, but didn't carry it out personally), does that mean Osama doesn't get credit for 9/11 (because he ordered the attack, but didn't carry it out personally)?

I think Osama would take credit for 9/11 since those who flew the airplanes, died.

-X
Title: Re: Osama is dead
Post by: uzo on May 05, 2011, 12:27:56 PM: Quote from: X on May 05, 2011, 05:30:57 AM
I think Osama would take credit for 9/11 since those who flew the airplanes, died.

-X

No, that doesn't make sense.

Quote from: Joachim on May 05, 2011, 04:08:13 AM
If Obama doesn't get credit for killing Osama (because he ordered the attack, but didn't carry it out personally), does that mean Osama doesn't get credit for 9/11 (because he ordered the attack, but didn't carry it out personally)?

That would correct, except that is not the case.

The reason Obama can't have full credit is because this has been in the works since before he became president. Not to mention the leg work and planning was all done by the military. Obama got the final report about what was going on, and said "Yeah, go ahead with it." That's where his actual involvement started and ended. The military get's the far majority credit on this one.

Osama on the other hand had helped plan, from the very beginning, and had an active role in achieving their goal.
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Post by: Gunlord on May 05, 2011, 01:49:35 PM: To be fair, Uzo, while I agree broadly with your point, I don't think just saying "yeah, go ahead with it" is all Obama-sama did. From what I've heard, he was fairly proactive in talking with his advisors, meeting with top officials and specialists over what the details of the plan would be and the pros and cons of carrying it out, and at least gathering information to make an informed judgment of whether or not the risks were worth the reward, which in this case turned out to be the right call. In this instance, I think he showed good leadership beyond simply just saying "go ahead with it," though of course as you said, the military deserves the lion's share of the credit.
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Post by: Joachim on May 05, 2011, 10:20:10 PM: Quote
in the works since before he became president.
Bush stopped caring about Osama not even 6 months after 9/11 (quote: "To be honest, I don't really think about him much anymore"); he was focused on Iraq, not Afghanistan or Osama. It was in the works in the sense that the "war" was in the works, but it had hardly made much of any progress in quite some time.

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The reason Obama can't have full credit
I'm not saying he should have full credit. I'm saying he deserves more credit than many conservatives are giving him, and that its uneven just how much credit osama gets for 9/11 compared to how much obama gets for taking him down.