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Title: Should there be a Belnades Spin-off Game?
Post by: 赤月 on May 16, 2011, 09:26:42 PM
In Castlevania there are many vampire hunters, the Belmonts and Morrises stand out to be the most well known legacies of vampire hunters; The Belmonts denominated over half the series, John and Jonathan Morris kept the Morris name strong for two games, but what about the Belnades? They are a family of vampire hunters as well. Sure Sypha, Carrie, and Yoko are playable characters, but they are over shadowed by the starring playable character, namely, the Belmonts. In my opinion, there should be a spin off series starring the Belnades, having to play Harmony of Dissonance and experienced Juste's Belnades powers, the Belnades are more than meets the eye. It would be interesting to see them mix and match Relics and Spellbooks for attacks. It would bring gameplay to whole new direction.

What would be your verdict?
Title: Re: Should there be a Belnades Spin-off Game?
Post by: crisis on May 16, 2011, 09:50:52 PM
A Belnades game would only wet the appetite for a real traditional Belmont game. I think the Belnades work best with only a Belmont by their side, but I wouldn't object to the idea i guess.
Title: Re: Should there be a Belnades Spin-off Game?
Post by: X on May 16, 2011, 11:12:07 PM
I'm open to the idea of a CV Gaiden game starring the Belnades'. However if they plan to have one of the Belnades' go up against Dracula then it would have to be AFTER CVIII. The main reason for this is due to Sypha marrying Trevor and producing Belmont/Belnades hybrids. Any Belnades before Sypha's children would be no match for the count. I would love to see a CVIII Sypha game where she is commissioned by the church to hunt Dracula only to be defeated by the cyclops. I believe we have discussed this very idea in other threads too.

-X
Title: Re: Should there be a Belnades Spin-off Game?
Post by: Renonsgoods on May 16, 2011, 11:21:30 PM
I'm all for a Belnades hero/heroine game.  And why not?  They gave Alucard his own game.  I'd like to see a game centered around Sypha depicting the events before she got embedded in stone for CVIII.
Title: Re: Should there be a Belnades Spin-off Game?
Post by: Chernabogue on May 17, 2011, 01:25:22 AM
Interesting idea. I want more Yoko love :)
Title: Re: Should there be a Belnades Spin-off Game?
Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 17, 2011, 02:26:25 AM
I like every Castlevania game, even if it is a spin-off or a main. I believe that with spin-off games you can explain some things that the main games create and left as a blank hole and you can even span the lifetime of the series. Also, i love games where the main protagonist is a female... :P I'm all for it!!!
Title: Re: Should there be a Belnades Spin-off Game?
Post by: thernz on May 17, 2011, 09:34:11 AM
I hope it's a male Belnades.
Title: Re: Should there be a Belnades Spin-off Game?
Post by: Thunderbrand on May 17, 2011, 09:43:55 AM
I like every Castlevania game, even if it is a spin-off or a main. I believe that with spin-off games you can explain some things that the main games create and left as a blank hole and you can even span the lifetime of the series. Also, i love games where the main protagonist is a female... :P I'm all for it!!!

I agree with this. It would serve to kind of fill in the blanks on certain things.

I think it'd be a cool game. I'd be all for it.
Title: Re: Should there be a Belnades Spin-off Game?
Post by: Successor The Cruel on May 17, 2011, 09:54:12 AM
I don't know if it would need to be a spin-off game.  A regular Castlevania game that has a Belnades lead would be fine by me.
Title: Re: Should there be a Belnades Spin-off Game?
Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 17, 2011, 10:46:09 AM
I don't know if it would need to be a spin-off game.  A regular Castlevania game that has a Belnades lead would be fine by me.

Usually, games that they don't have a Belmont as the main protagonist, are consider spin-offs. Either from Konami or by fans, because they are showing side stories and to tell you the truth, i don't care if it is a spin-off or a main game, as long as it is fun to play with it.
Title: Re: Should there be a Belnades Spin-off Game?
Post by: darkwzrd4 on May 17, 2011, 10:57:32 AM
I'm all for a game staring a Belnades.  Hell, I love to have more than one.  These could be centered around Sypha and her adventures before she is freed from her petrified state by Trevor.  There could also be games about Yoko.  I'm sure that she does things that have nothing to do with Soma or anything in the Sorrow games.

Also, if there are made like metroidvanias, we will get to see a more varied arenal.  Of course all the spells would probably be centered around the elements of fire, ice, and lightning.  I would be nice to see them use more than just three spells (that's just boring).
Title: Re: Should there be a Belnades Spin-off Game?
Post by: Profbeanburrito on May 17, 2011, 06:12:32 PM
I think a Belnades would be a great main character. There would be lots of great magic to use

Title: Re: Should there be a Belnades Spin-off Game?
Post by: uzo on May 17, 2011, 07:17:13 PM
The whole idea wouldn't be much different than playing as Alucard, Hector, or Soma. They're not Belmonts. Carrie in CV64 was pretty much this in a nut shell.
Title: Re: Should there be a Belnades Spin-off Game?
Post by: Renonsgoods on May 17, 2011, 07:26:33 PM
Except that Carrie's magic abilities were very limited in that game.  It'd be nice to see a full bodied game built around a Belnades witch...with lots of magic powers and spells to learn and use.  And she should use a full staff as her melee instrument of choice (I never cared for Sypha's one handed staff all that much).
Title: Re: Should there be a Belnades Spin-off Game?
Post by: Reinhart77 on May 17, 2011, 08:37:44 PM
i want to know how yoko's related to the Belnades that helped defeat Dracula, and what exactly they did to help defeat him.  They couldn't be talking about Sypha, right, otherwise she'd have a different last name unless some weird intermarrying too place. 

Yoko must have come from a long line of male Belnades.  We haven't seen any of them.  I can imaging i line a male carriers of magic power (but perhaps unable to use it themselves) who pass down power through their daughters. 
Title: Re: Should there be a Belnades Spin-off Game?
Post by: darkwzrd4 on May 17, 2011, 09:18:08 PM
i want to know how yoko's related to the Belnades that helped defeat Dracula, and what exactly they did to help defeat him.  They couldn't be talking about Sypha, right, otherwise she'd have a different last name unless some weird intermarrying too place. 

Yoko must have come from a long line of male Belnades.  We haven't seen any of them.  I can imaging i line a male carriers of magic power (but perhaps unable to use it themselves) who pass down power through their daughters. 
Well, we don't know anything about Sypha's past or relatives.  Yoko is likely a descendant of one of Sypha's relatives.  I doubt that the Belnades powers can only be used by women.  It's possible that a lot of the Belmonts' power comes from the Belnades blood flowing through them.  I mean you see what Juste is capable of.  You can't say that that is purely fueled by the Belmont power.  I think the reason the Belmonts are the most powerful vampire hunters is because of the union between the Belmont and Belnades families (Trevor marrying Sypha).
Perhaps some games centered around the Belnades family could answer some of these questions.
Title: Re: Should there be a Belnades Spin-off Game?
Post by: Munchy on May 17, 2011, 09:38:37 PM
I want to know why someone in a family called "Belnades" is named fucking YOKO.
Title: Re: Should there be a Belnades Spin-off Game?
Post by: Belmondo on May 17, 2011, 09:39:56 PM
I feel like the resources used to make a Belnades game would be better used making another Belmont game.
Title: Re: Should there be a Belnades Spin-off Game?
Post by: Reinhart77 on May 17, 2011, 09:43:22 PM
I want to know why someone in a family called "Belnades" is named fucking YOKO.
um, cause she grew up in Japan to keep watch on the shrine?
Title: Re: Should there be a Belnades Spin-off Game?
Post by: 赤月 on May 17, 2011, 09:48:06 PM
I think a Belnades would be a great main character. There would be lots of great magic to use



I was thinking the same, the magic would bring in a new element to gameplay. I want to see the extent of the Belnades' powers. I do not believe wielding fire, ice, and lightning is their limit.

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I want to know why someone in a family called "Belnades" is named fucking YOKO.

^ It's probably because Yoko is born in Japan, since the Sorrow games took place in Japan.
Title: Re: Should there be a Belnades Spin-off Game?
Post by: darkwzrd4 on May 18, 2011, 11:47:37 AM
I was thinking the same, the magic would bring in a new element to gameplay. I want to see the extent of the Belnades' powers. I do not believe wielding fire, ice, and lightning is their limit.


That would be interesting.  And even if wielding fire, ice, and lightning were the only elements that they wield, they probably have a wide variety of spells that they use.  I'm also willing to bet that the Belmont "item crush" capability comes from the Belnades family.  I'd love to see a game in which a Belnades creates an ice storm that pwns all the surrounding enemies.
Title: Re: Should there be a Belnades Spin-off Game?
Post by: Reinhart77 on May 18, 2011, 04:21:46 PM
Leon's orb system seems to be related to item crushing.
Title: Re: Should there be a Belnades Spin-off Game?
Post by: Munchy on May 18, 2011, 08:09:14 PM
um, cause she grew up in Japan to keep watch on the shrine?

Oh yeah huh. Fair 'nuff. I'm still a bit confused because she does not look any part Japanese at all, like her parents just lived there.
Title: Re: Should there be a Belnades Spin-off Game?
Post by: 赤月 on May 18, 2011, 09:13:42 PM
Leon's orb system seems to be related to item crushing.

Couldn't Trevor Item Crush as well?
Title: Re: Should there be a Belnades Spin-off Game?
Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 19, 2011, 02:40:47 AM
Couldn't Trevor Item Crush as well?


Yes he was, on Curse of Darkness.
Title: Re: Should there be a Belnades Spin-off Game?
Post by: 赤月 on May 19, 2011, 11:00:47 AM

Yes he was, on Curse of Darkness.

Do you recon sypha might have taught trevor something?
Title: Re: Should there be a Belnades Spin-off Game?
Post by: darkwzrd4 on May 19, 2011, 11:05:59 AM
Do you recon sypha might have taught trevor something?
That's what I think.
Title: Re: Should there be a Belnades Spin-off Game?
Post by: Successor The Cruel on May 19, 2011, 11:29:03 AM
Usually, games that they don't have a Belmont as the main protagonist, are consider spin-offs. Either from Konami or by fans, because they are showing side stories and to tell you the truth, i don't care if it is a spin-off or a main game, as long as it is fun to play with it.

I've never heard about games like Symphony of the Night, Bloodlines, Curse of Darkness, and so on being referred to as spin-offs, but alright. I guess that's one way to refer to them.
Title: Re: Should there be a Belnades Spin-off Game?
Post by: darkwzrd4 on May 19, 2011, 04:21:11 PM
I've never heard about games like Symphony of the Night, Bloodlines, Curse of Darkness, and so on being referred to as spin-offs, but alright. I guess that's one way to refer to them.
I doubt that SotN could be considered a spin-off.  I mean it actually contributes to the overall storyline unlike CoD.  Bloodlines could go either way.  The only reason that is could be considered a part of the main story is that its sequel (PoR) partially ties it into why the Belmonts are gone until 1999.  To me, a CV spin-off is a CV game that doesn't contribute at all to the overall storyline.  Examples of this are: CoD and DoS.
Title: Re: Should there be a Belnades Spin-off Game?
Post by: capkcan on May 19, 2011, 06:46:28 PM
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Title: Re: Should there be a Belnades Spin-off Game?
Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 20, 2011, 06:05:01 AM
To me, a CV spin-off is a CV game that doesn't contribute at all to the overall storyline.  Examples of this are: CoD and DoS.


When i said usually, i wanted to say what darkwzrd4 said, but i wasn't clear. Sorry for the confusion.
Title: Re: Should there be a Belnades Spin-off Game?
Post by: 赤月 on May 20, 2011, 09:14:19 PM
That would be interesting.  And even if wielding fire, ice, and lightning were the only elements that they wield, they probably have a wide variety of spells that they use.  I'm also willing to bet that the Belmont "item crush" capability comes from the Belnades family.  I'd love to see a game in which a Belnades creates an ice storm that pwns all the surrounding enemies.

That would be awesome to see. Or maybe even have her/him do some crazy elemental summoning.