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The Castlevania Dungeon Forums => General Castlevania Discussion => Topic started by: cecil-kain on May 17, 2011, 07:27:13 PM
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old news http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-10-11-castlevania-los-sequel-confirmed (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-10-11-castlevania-los-sequel-confirmed)
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I thought a sequel had been on lock for some time now? Anyways, yes...I will pick it up if it does come out. I enjoyed LoS more than either of the PS2 titles, so I'm on board for a sequel. If MS listens to ANY of the feedback that longtime fans had on LoS then I think we may get a game that will bring in more traditional CV elements than its predecessor did.
Besides, it's Castlevania. I can't NOT own it. ;D
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it will be released and i will buy it and get a good deal of enjoyment from it. but all the while i'll be waiting with anticipation for the text 3D entry to the series that Iga will make.
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If MS listens to ANY of the feedback that longtime fans had on LoS
This is the main thing that will make or break it for me. If it's just more of the same without any of the problems addressed (you know these with me, way excessive wall-shimmying, QTEs, and generic high fantasy/ Hollywood bullocks), then I'd get it used for ~$20.
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I have serious doubts. If this sequel is anything like the first in terms of QTE's, unnecessary and overemphasized shimmying, Titan battles, stretched out GoW combat, etc. then I think I'll pass. I can live without this type of CV game.
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I will buy it as long as gameplay and music have evolved. Music being more gothic and gameplay that has less invisible walls.
And a new character
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I have serious doubts. If this sequel is anything like the first in terms of QTE's, unnecessary and overemphasized shimmying, Titan battles, stretched out GoW combat, etc. then I think I'll pass. I can live without this type of CV game.
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Hey, you read my mind!
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If it's happening, I will buy it
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It better be a vast improvement and addresses all the problems LoS had and this goes beyond feeling like Castlevania, it has to feel like a solid, well put together game first.
And better music could help, alot.
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I enjoyed LoS, but it was a lie. No QTE? what bull, there WERE PLENTY of QTEs. If it continues then I'll get it when it comes down dramatically in price.... maybe.
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If I get a PS3 before it comes out, yes please.
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Absolutely, in Limited collector edition of course ;)
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If MS listens to ANY of the feedback that longtime fans had on LoS then I think we may get a game that will bring in more traditional CV elements than its predecessor did.
“The next Castlevania game we make is totally going to be like SCIV, this time. Promise! Look, we even could be bothered to name a few unused character models we still had laying around after old characters! And do you remember the Lizardman from the original Castlevania!? If you pay good attention during this cutscene you can spot him on a movie poster while Simon is driving past it in his car. And on top of that, the movie title reads “Akumajo Lizardman” Lol! How about that?”
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Maybe this time around they can make a game all about Alucard!
...and then turn him into Death, Slogra or Gaibon even. It would only be fair after all.
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I enjoyed LoS, but it was a lie. No QTE? what bull, there WERE PLENTY of QTEs.
What's with all these people reading my mind? I'm getting a little freaked out here.
I'm willing to give these guys the benefit of the doubt though, as LoS was not at all a bad first try at 3rd person action. They could really use more help from Konami of Japan, though, like what Capcom did with Dead Rising 2.
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Only if it has a female playable character.
I don't play Castlevania games that don't have at least one.
Simon was totally a chick in Super Castlevania.
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I don't konw, i haven't finish the first one, because i felt that i have been left with a black hole from what i have been promissed before the first game came out. If the sequel has a more Castlevania design feeling and some real Castlevania music, then maybe i might change my mind, but until then i'll have some serious doubts.
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Well LoS had a rocky development cycle with most people assuming it was another game before being titled "Castlevania" and shoe horning and name dropping characters/minor elements at the last minute so that it would increase sales(and it worked for the most part weather we like it or not.) let's not forget that this game was shuffled on weather it was gonna be a new IP or be a legit Castlevania game.
Now that Mercurysteam have build the foundation, they have the opportunity to create a Castlevania game from the ground up now, like LoS was originally intended to be and hopefully they will at least look for the fans(the sane ones) for improvement's to make the next game feel like a Castlevania game.
Or they will totally ignore the fans entirely and develop the game the way they want it.
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I'll get it so I can complain about it.
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I thought they partially got it right with the interior levels of Carmilla's castle, but then came the Land of the Necromancers, and it was just
ugh
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I probably won't buy it... I never buy a sequel of a sequel... Reminds me yo
Much of ffx-2
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I'll get it so I can complain about it.
I like the way you are thinking!!! ;D
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I don't know. It all depends on how I feel about the game when we get to see it.
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It's pretty much the same for me. I'm not excited for it, but I'm not dreading it either. I'm indifferent at the moment.
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They have to change pretty much everything to make me buy the game. If I see arena combat, shitty platforming and LOS music when they show a gameplay vid then I'm not gonna have any interest in it.
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They will have to make ALOT of changes for me to buy this game such as
1. Add ALOT more classic CV tunes to this game. I was really disapointed at the lack of old CV music in this game which only further made me not consider this the CV title I have been waiting for. I would like for this sequel to posibly include old tracks such as Bloody Tears,Simon's Theme, or Dance of a Holy Man.
2.NO MORE SHIMMERING! I want so good old non fancy platforming please. :)
3.No more lame story twist.
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I just hated that Gabriel had to become Dracula in this new rebirth of Castlevania. It just felt really forced and so lame that they would do such a thing. And having Death once being human was also a pretty stupid thing to do also.
4.Less Daytime stages. I really like my CV dark and gothic and it was sad that the only time I got that feeling was in Carmilla's castle.
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I don't envy the task that MS has on their shoulders. Making a 3d CV game is sure to piss off legions of hardcore Vania fans....no matter how the game turns out. There's literally no way they are going to please everyone that adores this franchise. As a fanbase we are VERY high strung...myself included (at times).
I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. While LoS had its shortcomings, I found it a far better exercise in creating a proper 3D Vania than either of Iga's attempts. That man needs to stick to the 2D series; as it is what he does best. As someone that really enjoyed LoD, I found myself royally disappointed with LoI and CoD when they arrived. While the action and graphics had improved, the level design had taken a BIG step backwards. I always said that LoI got all the things right that LoD had gotten wrong, and it simultaneously got all the things wrong that LoD had gotten right. LoS may not have gotten totally back to that template that worked so well for LoD, but it came much closer than LoI or CoD ever did.
IMO...if they give us a new Belmont to play with, a big showdown at the Dark Keep with Drac, and a score thick with new arrangements of classic CV tunes.....then they are golden, regardless of what changes they make to the action. Giving us more "analog" platforming and lots of traditional creatures/bosses would be even sweeter icing on the cake.
Storywise? Well I have plenty of thoughts on how this new continuity could work moving forward, but I don't work for MS. Story has never been this series strong point (as many here have pointed out in the past), so I fail to understand how LoS' story made the game so unworthy to some people. To me, if the action is compelling...then I'm in.
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I'm really pissed at the deceptive marketing, outright lies, and other bullshit they pulled for the first one. I might boycott it out right just based on that to be honest. Perhaps I'll play it by other means, but I don't think I'll be BUYING it and I even got the collectors this last time.
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Lords' was a funny old game, all over the place at times like a shambling corpse. But it still came at you with a sense of purpose, unshakable in its duty to tell its story, no matter how long it took to shuffle forward. It had character.
Didn't think I'd say this, but I'll miss the shimmying if it goes. It gave time to marvel and appreciate the backgrounds and at times draw in the weight of the task at hand. Moments of solitude on a near-level par with the likes of Metroid Prime I'd even be so bold to say. Not all button mashing and jump here-and-thither. Mind, the framerate didn't help when moving about from a control point-of-view, and there were the obvious camera issues. Not perfect, but damn close. Get rid of that and you get rid of a bit of Lords' character. However, when all's said and done they may want to try and shoehorn the game better, upgrade the shambling corpse to a death knight or something . . .
MS and Cox will be reading these forums, they might not like what they read at times (!) but they'll appreciate they can raise the bar a bit next time around. I'm sure they'll want to!
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Well, being fair, I think the most important thing to improve is to make the game actually feels like an entirely Castlevania game, with all the style, atmosphere and music(this is really important) if they do that, we can deal with the gameplay.
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Well, being fair, I think the most important thing to improve is to make the game actually feels like an entirely Castlevania game, with all the style, atmosphere and music(this is really important) if they do that, we can deal with the gameplay.
Exactly, like I said before LoS had a rocky development cycle and people at Konami/Mercurysteam were unsure if it was gonna be a Castlevania game or a new IP.
Now that LoS has built the foundation, the next game could be a Castlevania game from the ground up, without no fears.
Think about it, why did the epilouge(before the final two minutes) look like a Castlevania game than the entire game?
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I'm really pissed at the deceptive marketing, outright lies, and other bullshit they pulled for the first one. I might boycott it out right just based on that to be honest. Perhaps I'll play it by other means, but I don't think I'll be BUYING it and I even got the collectors this last time.
I'm not challenging you or anything, but what were some of the deceptions and outright lies that they said? I really hadn't been following Castlevania much since 2009, I was heavily into Metal Gear then. :X
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I'm really pissed at the deceptive marketing, outright lies, and other bullshit they pulled for the first one.
This was what really irritated me. So much of it felt like bait and switch. "I hate QTEs." Didn't stop you guys from filling the game to the fucking brim with them, did it MercurySteam? "The storyline will be deep and emotional." Um, with a few exceptions, it's like you jammed LoI and CoD's plots together and hired better actors. There's hardly any character development outside of brooding, betrayal, and more brooding. "Why do people keep calling it a God of War clone? It's totally not!" Well, when you take the plot arc, the combat where only a few combos are of any use, and the lame and overwrought QTEs for every action you perform in the game, what do you think people are going to compare it with?
My primary worry is that since the first one sold well, they're just going to follow its lead to the letter and completely cater to non-Castlevania fans. If this is the case, I will skip it until I can find it for 10 bucks used.
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Only if it's a gigantic improvement over LoS.
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My predictions:
- The music will still be orchestral, while throwing in 2 or 3 remixes to "please older fans." And they will only play during specific moments (such as the "Music Box" sequence)
- Graphics will still be pretty as hell
- Wall shimmying/plank walking will still be present, but to a much lesser degree
- Gabriel will still be Dracula
- QTEs will also prolly still be there, but "reworked" so they'll function differently than it's predecessor
- Added subweapons (Axe, Cross, etc.)
This is a reboot so I'm not expecting LoS-2 to be much more CV-like than what LoS tried to be. There's going to be a lot of fluff, & shameless name-dropping just like the first, so I'm expecting just that. I'm not expecting to see classic Bone Pillars, classic Medusa Heads or Fleamen because MS was tasked to create different, "brand-new" monsters instead, and they will continue to do so. Stuff we love from the classic series will be relegated to either cameos or drastic reimaginings, just like Slogra's appearance in the epilogue.
So will I still buy it? Sure, because at the end of the day it's still an action game and I like those.
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This was what really irritated me. So much of it felt like bait and switch. "I hate QTEs." Didn't stop you guys from filling the game to the fucking brim with them, did it MercurySteam? "The storyline will be deep and emotional." Um, with a few exceptions, it's like you jammed LoI and CoD's plots together and hired better actors. There's hardly any character development outside of brooding, betrayal, and more brooding. "Why do people keep calling it a God of War clone? It's totally not!" Well, when you take the plot arc, the combat where only a few combos are of any use, and the lame and overwrought QTEs for every action you perform in the game, what do you think people are going to compare it with?
My primary worry is that since the first one sold well, they're just going to follow its lead to the letter and completely cater to non-Castlevania fans. If this is the case, I will skip it until I can find it for 10 bucks used.
You also forgot in one trailer they added the copy paste audio of Satan's lines over a gothic castle camera pan with bats flying around. "Hey check out Dracula's lines, just kidding we're completely misleading you for your money."
That castle segment wasn't even in the game. It was also void of snow and such as well, as it was raining instead. What a fucking cock tease and total let down. It's that scene that got me hyped the most too. Fuck you MercurySteam, you liars.
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I'm not challenging you or anything, but what were some of the deceptions and outright lies that they said? I really hadn't been following Castlevania much since 2009, I was heavily into Metal Gear then. :X
While it's not directed at me, I shall fill this in to the best of my ability, so lets start from the very beginning:
1. In early 2008, a new IP called Lords of Shadow is shown, many people thought it was a Castlevania game right off the bat. in a interview with Dave Cox, he said that "We at Konami is tired of making the same games over and over, so we created the new IP Lords of Shadow, a dark fairy tale." The game disappears untill the coming weeks of E3 09.
2. After a full year, Lords of Shadow resurfaces once again at E3 but this time it has been re branded as "Castlevania Lords of Shadow." Dave Cox comes out to say this is a reboot(or alternate continuity) to Castlevania, and then said the imfamous words " Forget everything you knew about Castlevania." Many people saw this as a slap in the face(IGA's face in particular)
3. later in the fall after months of silence, Cox said in an interview wih GT that "This game will not have QTE's, I hate QTE's." and "LoS will have many familiar themes orchestrated"
4. One year later and the game is finally shown, and no familiar themes were heard, OTE's were almost everywhere and the presence of Dracula(or anyother Castlevania element) were nowhere to be found. Fans felt lead on and betrayed by Cox's words.
5. Game is finally released and many people love it, and many people hate it for it's "lack of Castlevania feel."
6.. Cox say's that The DLC reverie is coming out in Febuary, It was released in March, on PSN only. The DLC Resurrection will be released in April, we're nearing the end of May and they just finished it.
There is probably more out there but this is all that I can think of from the top of the dome. whatever his intentions, Cox seem's to swirl around the truth about this game as well as it's plans for the future.
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You also forgot in one trailer they added the copy paste audio of Satan's lines over a gothic castle camera pan with bats flying around. "Hey check out Dracula's lines, just kidding we're completely misleading you for your money."
That castle segment wasn't even in the game. It was also void of snow and such as well, as it was raining instead. What a fucking cock tease and total let down. It's that scene that got me hyped the most too. Fuck you MercurySteam, you liars.
Oh yeah... Dammit I had almost forgotten. I was really looking forward to a Jason Isaacs-voiced Dracula too.
Hell, if the Castle belonged to Satan, I would've been fine with it! The back of the MSX Vampire Killer box keeps mentioning Dracula's Satanic Castle, and that would've been a great interpretation of that line. But NOOOO, we get fucking Mordor with space rocks instead.
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Storywise? Well I have plenty of thoughts on how this new continuity could work moving forward, but I don't work for MS. Story has never been this series strong point (as many here have pointed out in the past), so I fail to understand how LoS' story made the game so unworthy to some people. To me, if the action is compelling...then I'm in.
Well twitter Cox with them. he has an account for a reason.
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Loved LoS, so unless review are absolutely abysmal, DAY 1 purchase for me.
As much as I enjoyed LoS's music, like 99.9999999% of the CV fans across the planet, I'm really hoping for more classic remixed CV tunes, placed within more serious sections of the game (as in, not some single cameo in a music box).
Severely cutting down on the shimmying and plank walking would be really nice as well, as I pretty much hate it.
Lastly, while i didn't mind the QTE, I would've enjoyed them more if they were more interactive. Like giving the player the ability to use the analog stick along w/ the button presses (like when pulling something down with the combat cross, make the player pull the stick accordingly.
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I'd see not-so-classic tunes arranged (I mean no "Bloody Tears", "Beginning" or "Vampire Killer" for example, but tracks who better fit a more cinematic game).
I'd die to hear a full "Dance of Illusions" orchestral version in the sequel too.
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I'm not terribly hopeful for non-generic tracks, but I do hope at least there are stage-specific themes this time around. Even the PS2 Rygar had those, and that game is roughly ten years old by now.
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I'd like to say that I'd only buy it if they made it more Castlevania-like and catered to us longtime fans, but I'm a consumer zombie for this series and will thus pre-order the super-duper edition when the time comes.
I did really like LoS, though. But if it must deviate so far from the rest of the series in this next game too, then I hope it kind of comes into its own a little more. And as long as there's a really good reason for a Gabe Dracula, and for Satan being there at all, then I want to see it. A touch of morbid curiosity, maybe, but I digress.
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if anyone from mercurysteam reads in here, then you should listen to them and take some ideas about the soundtrack of LoS sequel.
Transylvania Overture (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN0boENnh-E#)
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LOS was the first Castlevania I haven't really cared for at all, honestly. It was a good game, but as others have said, it simply didn't feel like Castlevania. I will not be buying the sequel unless it "feels" more like Castlevania. I will probably just watch the story on Youtube or something...which I hate to say that. This is the first Castlevania I've felt that way about.
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Without seeing anything to convince me otherwise, my answer is "Hell no." Mercury Steam put out the most ridiculous and even insulting thing with the Castlevania title on it I've ever seen. A Castlevania that is too ashamed to be Castlevania and would rather be Lord of the Rings meets Shadow of the Colossus meets God of War. I never thought I'd see such an abomination in my time, and I have absolutely no desire to see another.
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Frankly, I think Judgement was a much bigger abomination than LoS...but that's just me. Amazing how some of us can play LoS and feel its Castlevania-isity......while some play it and find it to be the most un-Castlevania-like thing they've ever seen. I guess that's how big a role perception and personal preference plays in these things. I think LoS is a great game, and I enjoyed it dearly. It could have been a bit more Castlevania-ish, but I still got quite the kick out of playing a 3D Belmont with a nasty chain weapon. If MS steers a bit more towards their source material for the sequel then I'll enjoy it plenty.
I often wonder how much art and character design plays into people's hatred of this game. I've noticed in my time on the net that alot of people who loved LoI hated LoS, and those that hated LoI loved LoS. Hmmm.
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If MS uses more lore from the main series (music, enemies, etc.) but keeps the awesome stuff they brought with LoS, I think the game would be a pure killer. :)
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I was very skeptical of LoS before it came out and during my first play trough, but after going through it 3 times I've learned to really love it for what it is. Sure, some of the early levels aren't great and it could have used more classic elements such as music and enemies, but like it for what it is, not for what you think it should be.
that being said, I'm very interested to see what Mercury Steam does with the next title. They did a whole lot of good with LoS and I think they can make it better. And I guarantee that anyone on this forum who says they won't be playing the sequel will be picking up regardless of what they're saying now.
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If MS uses more lore from the main series (music, enemies, etc.) but keeps the awesome stuff they brought with LoS, I think the game would be a pure killer. :)
This.
I love LoS by what it is, a kinda "Castlevania 0". it has reasons to not feel like Castlevania because what we call Cv (Belmonts vs Dracula) hasn't begun, but it lays the foundations very well, the story is playing nicely and the most important, it wants to be big (if it is, or it isn't, depends on whatever you want to think) it's being made with love and care (Holy cow, the bestiary drawings, the attacks drawings, the backstory!) and it has a sense of scale I would have only dreamt of when I played my first videogame.
Not even a day one buy for me, the sequel is more like a zero-minute buy for me :D
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I have my doubts. I resisted LoS, but ultimately bought it to give it a fair shake (at full price!). It was a solid, quality game--but it was a failure as a relaunch of "Castlevania." Focus and gameplay-wise, it bends things so much that I hardly even think of it as a Castlevania game at this point. I need the next 3D CV to rein in the combos to something more "practical," and use CV64/LoD gameplay & atmosphere as the framework with a better 3D camera. If I see something like that, I'll be enticed. But if it's more of a disjointed genre mash-up of combo-hack'n'slash and scripted platforming, I'm going to have to let it slide to the bargain bin before I give it a try. At its heart, Castlevania is action-platforming; it's hyphenated for a reason: they go hand in hand at all times.
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I was very skeptical of LoS before it came out and during my first play trough, but after going through it 3 times I've learned to really love it for what it is. Sure, some of the early levels aren't great and it could have used more classic elements such as music and enemies, but like it for what it is, not for what you think it should be.
that being said, I'm very interested to see what Mercury Steam does with the next title. They did a whole lot of good with LoS and I think they can make it better. And I guarantee that anyone on this forum who says they won't be playing the sequel will be picking up regardless of what they're saying now.
Consider this. 40% of the hardcore fans responding here have NOT committed to buy the sequel. Think about that. How can you keep selling a product if 40% of your core customers aren't on board? Most of those not committed have "serious doubts" --some are confused and discouraged while others even feel duped and betrayed. Furthermore, Konami has yet to show any evidence that they succeeded in returning Castlevania to the mainstream --that was the whole point of rebooting in the first place. Sure they made some money --apparently enough to gamble on a sequel. But as hard as it is to sell the reboot, selling this sequel will be that much harder now that seeds of contempt have been sewn. I'm not saying the sequel is doomed --far from it. That all really depends on how seriously Konami MS and Cox respond to all the criticism.
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Last week Konami had its investor call and it showed a growth in packaged goods, and thet thanked MGS: PW, PES2011 and Lords of Shadow for it, they said the game had "healthy sales". And remember that last year Konami's CEO Thanked the community for the game's response (I think they were in Mexico or something) and also remember it hit the million mark in 3 weeks or so. The game was a success, why would Konami return to the old saga that sold 400k copies thanks to its dedicated fanbase instead of keeping the new one that sells millions and dragged many action fans even at the expense of their old ones? I think we are pretty much in a situation of "Come aboard or leave the ship", I'm gladly in but I can understand if some people is turned off by this direction.
But Konami doesn't care, it doesn't have to. Those fans are just not enough.
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Last week Konami had its investor call and it showed a growth in packaged goods, and thet thanked MGS: PW, PES2011 and Lords of Shadow for it, they said the game had "healthy sales". And remember that last year Konami's CEO Thanked the community for the game's response (I think they were in Mexico or something) and also remember it hit the million mark in 3 weeks or so. The game was a success, why would Konami return to the old saga that sold 400k copies thanks to its dedicated fanbase instead of keeping the new one that sells millions and dragged many action fans even at the expense of their old ones? I think we are pretty much in a situation of "Come aboard or leave the ship", I'm gladly in but I can understand if some people is turned off by this direction.
But Konami doesn't care, it doesn't have to. Those fans are just not enough.
Konami's in the game to make money. This isn't art, it's business --and I for one understand that. A reboot made good artistic and business sense IMO, but overall I think LoS came off as... Disrespectful. There are a variety of reasons I could go into, but really nothing that hasn't been said already. Unfortunately sequels require a fanbase to sell to. If the fanbase is growing, I'm sure they'll make lots of money; but if the fanbase isn't growing, they could be very disappointed this next time around --especially if the reviews come back mediocre.
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Consider this. 40% of the hardcore fans responding here have NOT committed to buy the sequel. Think about that.
Don't confuse 40% of a tiny corner of the internet with 40% of the entire hardcore fanbase.
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Don't confuse 40% of a tiny corner of the internet with 40% of the entire hardcore fanbase.
Touché. Still, there's no better place to take the pulse of the fanbase than right here at the most popular Castlevania forum on the internet. :-)
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most popular Castlevania forum on the internet. :-)
know that for a fact?
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"Come aboard or leave the ship"
I'd laugh if someone in the crowd of that ship boarding yelled out; "Leave the ship or get Torpedoed!"
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know that for a fact?
As of right now this forum has 1,987 members. Not counting the lurkers, of course...
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also one of the first sites when googled, used to be the first before wikia i believe.
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The Dungeon is probably the most popular Castlevania board right now, though I've heard it's only a shadow of its former self.
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I have my doubts. I resisted LoS, but ultimately bought it to give it a fair shake (at full price!). It was a solid, quality game--but it was a failure as a relaunch of "Castlevania." Focus and gameplay-wise, it bends things so much that I hardly even think of it as a Castlevania game at this point. I need the next 3D CV to rein in the combos to something more "practical," and use CV64/LoD gameplay & atmosphere as the framework with a better 3D camera. If I see something like that, I'll be enticed. But if it's more of a disjointed genre mash-up of combo-hack'n'slash and scripted platforming, I'm going to have to let it slide to the bargain bin before I give it a try. At its heart, Castlevania is action-platforming; it's hyphenated for a reason: they go hand in hand at all times.
True dat, BUT, the old school version of action-plaforming works great only in 2D. When being converted to 3D, it unfortunately has to be scaled down a lot. This goes not only for gameplay itself, but also for visual design.
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I recall the CVD being mentioned in a few published gaming magazines (either EGM or Game Informer, don't remember) that had articles on whatever CV game was popular at the time, yeeears ago. So the CVD has been on top for a long time.
The Dungeon is probably the most popular Castlevania board right now, though I've heard it's only a shadow of its former self.
jerkofwonder must have told you that.
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I too have seen the CVD mentioned in several different mags over the years. That's one of the reasons I want the site to go back up.
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Alright then. point taken.
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I think we are pretty much in a situation of "Come aboard or leave the ship", I'm gladly in but I can understand if some people is turned off by this direction.
If it IS the direction the series is heading in(the definative direction), I have no problem getting off at the next stop. It's not an issue of, "OMG!! It's dead to me and now the world will end.". There's been so many of these types of changes regarding some of my most beloved series(series that are pre-maturely killed off, others that totally change), it's like everything in life. It's the same as growing up with your best friend, then realizing, when the time comes, they start to go their own way, and it's not the way you want to go, so you part ways. I can live without future CVs. Doesn't mean I can't still love the old ones! ;)
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Unless there is alot of evidence that the LoS sequel is heading in a better direction from my point of view (more memorable and varied music, less Lord of the Rings feel and steered more toward traditional CV gothic dark fiction, etc.), I will more than likely be holding off on buying it. I'll be watching the sequel more intently and will more than likely be putting it under alot of scrutiny due to Lords not exactly being what I was hoping for.
I'm not saying I'll never buy the game if I don't feel it's grown more into its Castlevania roots, as I am a collector of the series and have a tic about making my collection more complete, but I'll probably wait until long after the game has dropped price as I don't want Konami getting my top dollar for a game I don't approve of.
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Don't confuse 40% of a tiny corner of the internet with 40% of the entire hardcore fanbase.
And that 40% are like... 15 people? lol I think they don't give a damn aut those 15 after selling millions :P
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Actually, Konami just said they shipped 1 million copies; they never said how many copies were actually sold.
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Which, according to VGChartz, was around 850,000: http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/sales/35060/castlevania-lords-of-shadow/ (http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/sales/35060/castlevania-lords-of-shadow/)
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And that 40% are like... 15 people? lol I think they don't give a damn aut those 15 after selling millions :P
37 in just a couple days and counting. The real question you should be asking is if these 37 are truly a "representative sample" of the Castlevania fanbase. Public polling will generally takes a very small sample of the population to measure public opinion. Most national polls will sample several hundred people to gauge the opinion of millions... Naturally the more that participate, the more reliable the data --this 40% has been holding fairly steady so far....
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jerkofwonder must have told you that.
Nope.
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It was a solid, quality game--but it was a failure as a relaunch of "Castlevania." Focus and gameplay-wise, it bends things so much that I hardly even think of it as a Castlevania game at this point.
I think this is a pretty fair judgment. (Castlevania judgment, hurrrrr.) It's hard to deny the quality of certain aspects of the game, but certain things (which I've been quite vocal about) really put me off, more than anything Cox's statement about hating QTEs and then MercurySteam smearing them all over the game. If the sequel fully embraces the Gothic nighttime quality of the epilogue (NOT the city, the church interior) I will be far more interested than I am right now. (Also there's gotta be some way to circumvent the 2 disc shit; couldn't they find a way to make the player only use one when it's installed?)
I'll buy it at some point. Just not right off the bat, and not before copious price drops.
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VGChartz
As if they were a reliable source?
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Shhhhh just accept it