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Title: Vampire Hunter/Another: The Noble Gray Lancer
Post by: Lumas on May 19, 2011, 01:14:00 PM
Not sure if it has been brought up but the creator/author for Vampire Hunter D has started a spin off with miss Kojima doing the artwork called Vampire Hunter/Another: The Noble Gray Lancer.

http://www.digitalmanga.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1534 (http://www.digitalmanga.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1534)
Title: Re: Vampire Hunter/Another: The Noble Gray Lancer
Post by: Sindra on May 19, 2011, 01:33:17 PM
Woo!

Always knew Kojima would be good in the VHD universe! Just one more little connection between Castlevania and Vampire Hunter D for me!
Title: Re: Vampire Hunter/Another: The Noble Gray Lancer
Post by: Chernabogue on May 19, 2011, 01:39:01 PM
Never read VHD, but that's cool to see Kojima working on a CV-like story! :)
Title: Re: Vampire Hunter/Another: The Noble Gray Lancer
Post by: DragonSlayr81 on May 19, 2011, 01:56:41 PM
This sounds awesome!!
Title: Re: Vampire Hunter/Another: The Noble Gray Lancer
Post by: Odile Kuronuma on May 19, 2011, 03:02:31 PM
Awesome news! I still haven't read the VHD novels, but I watched Bloodlust, and I can see a lot of similarities between D and Alucard. After all, Alucard was inspired by D from VHD ( or so it is said) . This isn't the first time Kojima's working with Kikuchi Hideyuki. She illustrated a lot of his novels.Of course those novels are only available in Japan, and they prolly won't come out in the US. But there's a chance this new series get translated, after all it's the spinoff of VHD, and if I'm not mistaken, VHD is pretty popular *crossing fingers*
Nice cover btw. And thanks Lumas for the news :)
Title: Re: Vampire Hunter/Another: The Noble Gray Lancer
Post by: Reinhart77 on May 19, 2011, 03:34:08 PM
Bloodlust is probably my fav anime.  I bought all the novels, but then some plumming problems ruined most of them =(  look forward to seeing some of the new artwork.
Title: Re: Vampire Hunter/Another: The Noble Gray Lancer
Post by: Oralox on May 19, 2011, 03:57:55 PM
This is interesting, and bloodlust is the best anime vampire movie I've seen.
Title: Re: Vampire Hunter/Another: The Noble Gray Lancer
Post by: darkwzrd4 on May 19, 2011, 04:04:26 PM
This is good news.  I've seen both VHD movies and read the first 9 books.  FYI, Bloodlust is loosely based off of book 3.  And when I say loosely, I mean loosely.  You have mostly the same characters, but their capabilities are different and the ending is very different.
Title: Re: Vampire Hunter/Another: The Noble Gray Lancer
Post by: Vampire Killer on May 19, 2011, 08:55:23 PM
I found the books to be almost juvenile in its characterizations. Perhaps it's just the translation?

Loved the movies though. While the second movie definitely beats the first in terms of story, style and artistic beauty, the first feels more Cv (movie open with a girl that looks like Sonia, whip and all), but that's perhaps because it feels more like a videogame.

speaking of which, anyone else play the PS1 game? Was cool for it's atmosphere, played like oldschool Resident Evil (which made it a bitch).
Title: Re: Vampire Hunter/Another: The Noble Gray Lancer
Post by: Ahasverus on May 19, 2011, 09:41:02 PM
And this has to do with Castlevania because...?
But yeah, it's always nice to see Kojima's talent (The woman is da zhit, even with her orgasmed-faces, I can't get tired of them.. outside CV) and I love Vampire Hunter D, it's like a match made in heaven!
Title: Re: Vampire Hunter/Another: The Noble Gray Lancer
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on May 19, 2011, 09:46:02 PM
You mean besides the obvious reasons?
And this has to do with Castlevania because...?
...you mean besides the glaringly obvious reasons?
Title: Re: Vampire Hunter/Another: The Noble Gray Lancer
Post by: Ahasverus on May 19, 2011, 09:55:28 PM
You mean besides the obvious reasons?...you mean besides the glaringly obvious reasons?
I was only expressing my opinion :P it's the equivalent of opening a thred of how hot kate Beckinsale is in Van Helsing because both things have to do with Draucla, Castles, hunters and the game has a reference to the Belmonts.. but that's just me :P  my apologies
Title: Re: Vampire Hunter/Another: The Noble Gray Lancer
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on May 19, 2011, 10:12:58 PM
Well here are a couple of reasons:
1. Vampire Hunter D's story is strikingly similar to the Castlevania Alucard/Dracula story, almost as if they belong together, even if they are completely different universes.
2. the obvious similarities between characters, such as the aforementioned D/Doris and Al/Sonia.
3. Castlevania and Vampire Hunter D came out almost around the same time.  They are sibling series.
4. This thread makes mention that Ayami Kojima, a designer for Castlevania, is now designing for Vampire Hunter D, now making the universes even closer together, now artistically. 
5. A person connected to the Castlevania franchise is now doing other works.... sort of a "Where are they now?" of Castlevania important people.  Thus, it's still Castlevania-related.  Even more so if the works mentioned are already similar.
Title: Re: Vampire Hunter/Another: The Noble Gray Lancer
Post by: DragonSlayr81 on May 19, 2011, 11:13:54 PM
Vampire Hunter D predates the CV series, but no doubt inspired some ideas. It's utterly uncanny how D/Doris is like Al/Sonia. Of course, D and Doris came first. But the similarities are there, nonetheless. A "hunter" esque character who wields a whip and fights the creatures of the night(Doris) is very Belmont-esque. And yeah, I agree with whom ever said the first movie felt the most like a CV movie. It would be hard to accomplish that style of movie now because of the certain differences in storytelling and style, but for back then, it worked rather perfectly. Take away the post-apocalyptic sci-fi elements, and it could very well be a CV anime.
Title: Re: Vampire Hunter/Another: The Noble Gray Lancer
Post by: Gunlord on May 20, 2011, 02:07:41 AM
Man, if this ever gets translated/released in the West imma buy it. 8)
Title: Re: Vampire Hunter/Another: The Noble Gray Lancer
Post by: Sindra on May 20, 2011, 08:28:16 PM
And this has to do with Castlevania because...?

The first animated movie came out in 1985. Castlevania came out a year later. Later games later incorporated aspects found in the VHD movie. While it's not directly quoted as being the inspiration for the Castlevania series, the VHD film is the spiritual ancestor to the series.

In VHD Bloodlust, you can even see some inspiration that could have been taken from Castlevania games.
Bottom line - if you read the books and know the story, or even look at just the movies, you can see clear core similarities to the two universes.....almost to the point where the Vampire Hunter D universe could easily be a "What If....." alternate universe of Castlevania. (That's how I see it, anyway)
Title: Re: Vampire Hunter/Another: The Noble Gray Lancer
Post by: beingthehero on May 20, 2011, 08:47:08 PM
And this has to do with Castlevania because...?

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee35/beingthehero/gfs_46888_2_61.jpg?t=1305947918)

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee35/beingthehero/Screenshot-1-5.png?t=1305947918)
Title: Re: Vampire Hunter/Another: The Noble Gray Lancer
Post by: Nagumo on May 21, 2011, 09:04:01 AM
Vampire Hunder D is one the main inspirations for the Castlevania series.
Title: Re: Vampire Hunter/Another: The Noble Gray Lancer
Post by: Mr.Bushido on May 21, 2011, 09:21:50 AM
In my opinion Kojima is not very good in comprison with Amano, being honest I always see her like a Yoshitaka Amano-wannabe. She may be really happy now for being involved with Vampire Hunter D
Title: Re: Vampire Hunter/Another: The Noble Gray Lancer
Post by: Dominus on May 21, 2011, 02:30:25 PM
In my opinion Kojima is not very good in comprison with Amano, being honest I always see her like a Yoshitaka Amano-wannabe. She may be really happy now for being involved with Vampire Hunter D


I disagree. Im my opinion Amano is overstimated. I personally think that all his works look like if they were incomplete
Title: Re: Vampire Hunter/Another: The Noble Gray Lancer
Post by: thernz on May 21, 2011, 02:46:03 PM
http://static.minitokyo.net/downloads/45/27/281395.jpg?1824609835 (http://static.minitokyo.net/downloads/45/27/281395.jpg?1824609835)
How does this look incomplete?
Title: Re: Vampire Hunter/Another: The Noble Gray Lancer
Post by: Dominus on May 22, 2011, 07:36:14 AM
http://static.minitokyo.net/downloads/45/27/281395.jpg?1824609835 (http://static.minitokyo.net/downloads/45/27/281395.jpg?1824609835)
How does this look incomplete?

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Title: Re: Vampire Hunter/Another: The Noble Gray Lancer
Post by: Chernabogue on May 22, 2011, 08:30:12 AM
Error 403. Another link please
Delete everything after .jpg in the link.
Title: Re: Vampire Hunter/Another: The Noble Gray Lancer
Post by: Dominus on May 22, 2011, 11:11:11 AM
I admit that it does look good but the face is ugly. I think that i think about it, incomplete isnt the right word. It feels sketchy. I mean it is complete and all but I still feel like if it was drawn by a talented (possibly asian) teenager without any social skills in school alone. It doesnt feel finished to me, a feeling that i do get with Kojima
Title: Re: Vampire Hunter/Another: The Noble Gray Lancer
Post by: Puwexil on May 22, 2011, 11:24:16 AM
"Possibly Asian"? Social skills? Wait, what the hell?

Ayami Kojima is my favourite artist because she is certifiably Asian.
Title: Re: Vampire Hunter/Another: The Noble Gray Lancer
Post by: Dominus on May 22, 2011, 11:53:01 AM
"Possibly Asian"? Social skills? Wait, what the hell?

Ayami Kojima is my favourite artist because she is certifiably Asian.

Posibly asian because (i think) they rock doing drawnings, paintings, virtual pantings, etc (or atleast thats the impression i get from Deviant Art)
Without social skills because a drawing like that would requiere loads of time and it feels to me like it would be done by a teenager in school (I mean inside the building, when you have classes, etc)

Is not that is bad, it is good, is just that it doesnt look good or profesional enough  to me to be praised so much as it is praised
Title: Re: Vampire Hunter/Another: The Noble Gray Lancer
Post by: Odile Kuronuma on May 22, 2011, 12:19:46 PM
Kojima's style is different than Amano's. Of course both are really talented, and Amano is a legend, but something i noticed about Amano, is that he doesn't use shadings a lot. It's as if there is no shadow in his paintings. Also he uses watercolors , which makes his paintings look so bright.
Kojima focuses  on rendering flesh tones.As far as I can tell she uses acrylics, which are closer to oil paint . Plus her influences are totally different than Amano's. She likes gore, surgery and she was impressed by the effect produced by oil paint when she was studying arts in high school. She created her own style that includes these elements and it works very well.
For me the comparison is  vain, since both artists are good and they have their own styles. Whether you like Amano more than Kojima, it's just a matter of taste really. Amano is too fantasy for me. I like Kojima's gothic/disturbing art better.
Title: Re: Vampire Hunter/Another: The Noble Gray Lancer
Post by: JR on May 23, 2011, 03:08:58 AM
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee35/beingthehero/gfs_46888_2_61.jpg?t=1305947918)


I don't mean to derail the thread, does anyone know what does Dracula have on his head? Is it some kind of unholy mitre or something? Playing this as a kid, I always thought it looked like pilot goggles.  :-[

The only Vampire Hunter D I've ever seen was the dubbed movie a long, long time ago (according to Wikipedia it's probably the '85 film I saw) on VHS. This thread really makes me want to go check out more, though.
Title: Re: Vampire Hunter/Another: The Noble Gray Lancer
Post by: C Belmont on May 23, 2011, 04:38:05 AM
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I don't mean to derail the thread

If you ask me your doing quite the opposite.
Posting a topic on Ayami Kojima that has no relation to castlevania in the "general castlevania discussion" section seems pretty off topic to me & just plain dissappointing if you were expecting something Castlevania related from the post.
Title: Re: Vampire Hunter/Another: The Noble Gray Lancer
Post by: Lumas on May 25, 2011, 08:20:12 PM
Well here are a couple of reasons:
1. Vampire Hunter D's story is strikingly similar to the Castlevania Alucard/Dracula story, almost as if they belong together, even if they are completely different universes.
2. the obvious similarities between characters, such as the aforementioned D/Doris and Al/Sonia.
3. Castlevania and Vampire Hunter D came out almost around the same time.  They are sibling series.
4. This thread makes mention that Ayami Kojima, a designer for Castlevania, is now designing for Vampire Hunter D, now making the universes even closer together, now artistically. 
5. A person connected to the Castlevania franchise is now doing other works.... sort of a "Where are they now?" of Castlevania important people.  Thus, it's still Castlevania-related.  Even more so if the works mentioned are already similar.

Thanks Jorge could not have stated that better.
Title: Re: Vampire Hunter/Another: The Noble Gray Lancer
Post by: Reinhart77 on May 25, 2011, 09:43:12 PM
there was a nice Vampire Hunter Comes-after-C reference in Curse of Darkness.