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The Castlevania Dungeon Forums => General Castlevania Discussion => Topic started by: 赤月 on May 30, 2011, 09:12:53 PM
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It's stage two of the remix battle!!
Vampire Killer. The very first track any oldschool Castlevania players heard when they first ventured into Castlevania in 1986.
Since then, the track has been remastered, remixed, and arranged numerous times for future games, making this song timeless.
Now the question is, which game does Vampire Killer the best?
Castlevania Music: VAMPIRE KILLER COLLECTION (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMcyE5oipUU#)
Castlevania Music: VAMPIRE KILLER COLLECTION (Part 2) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJs8iEq8lmc#)
My personal favourites are remixed in Dracula X Chronicles, Judgement, and Harmony of Despair.
Just love the powerful orchestra playing the track on Dracula X Chronicles.
Judgement's electronic influenced arrangement of the track is very well done. One of my favourite tracks in Judgement.
Harmony of Despair's modern rock with obviously 8-Bit sounds makes for an unusual, but unique mix.
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I voted Castlevania Chronicles version of Vampire Killer. There's just something about that particular arrangement which jives with me.
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I voted Castlevania Chronicles version of Vampire Killer. There's just something about that particular arrangement which jives with me.
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That arrangement is quite a chaotic touch to it.
If Harmony of Despair did not remix the track, Chronicles would of made it to my list.
But yes, Chronicle's version is great to jam to.
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I find it rather unacceptable that we STILL haven't seen a rendition of VK appear in a 3D Vania as of yet. (No...Judgment doesn't count)
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I put in a vote for CV3. I like how it captures the magic of the original perfectly (by being so similar), while also tightening and improving it a bit. There's DPCM in the percussion unlike CV1, and it's a bit more nuanced overall:
CV3: Deja Vu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-RdjNFCYs8#)
I think this would be a good candidate for the 'other' option. Wai Wai World 2 has a fairly 'progg'ed out' rearrangement with interesting time signatures (it's the second song in the second video from the OP):
Wai Wai World 2: Vampire Killer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBWGtRwE0FM#)
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I find it rather unacceptable that we STILL haven't seen a rendition of VK appear in a 3D Vania as of yet. (No...Judgment doesn't count)
That post made me laugh.
But yes, Lament of Innocence would of been the perfect 3D Castlevania to have a VK remix thrown in there for one of the stages.
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I find it rather unacceptable that we STILL haven't seen a rendition of VK appear in a 3D Vania as of yet. (No...Judgment doesn't count)
Say what now? (http://tinyurl.com/3fkgwk4)
Anyways, the best VK remake is undoubtedly the arcade (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fott4XKa1A#) version. Sick stuff, especially when it gets all old and scratchy for a moment. CotM's rendition is a close runner up, and gee, that's not even an option here either.
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But yes, Lament of Innocence would of been the perfect 3D Castlevania to have a VK remix thrown in there for one of the stages.
It has a VK quote in "Admiration Towards the Clan" (near 1:30)
Also, best version is the Arcade version. HoD and Judgment are great too.
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So, I assume there was no Vampire Killer in LoS?
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So, I assume there was no Vampire Killer in LoS?
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Is it that much of a hassle to read a post just a few messages above?
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Is it that much of a hassle to read a post just a few messages above?
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I was just asking because I never played LoS.
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It has a VK quote in "Admiration Towards the Clan" (near 1:30)
Also, best version is the Arcade version. HoD and Judgment are great too.
Oh yes, it was short and pretty. If only they made a full 4:00 VK rendition for Lament of Innocence, then I'll be one of the happiest people ever.
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I was just asking because I never played LoS.
And you wouldn't have had to ask if you had read through the fucking thread.
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And you wouldn't have had to ask if you had read through the fucking thread.
You meant this post right?
I find it rather unacceptable that we STILL haven't seen a rendition of VK appear in a 3D Vania as of yet. (No...Judgment doesn't count)
I did read it. But I just doubt at what renonsgoods said. Because I've heard that there was a VK track playing in one of the stage in LoS.
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And you wouldn't have had to ask if you had read through the fucking thread.
He's simply asking for clarification on the exact thing you are talking about. If you would like to respond maturely, there's no need to be condescending about it.
To answer his question, it did appear in LoS.
http://youtu.be/W0D2HgBjXiM (http://youtu.be/W0D2HgBjXiM) (the song)
http://youtu.be/00uPEuNXT-o (http://youtu.be/00uPEuNXT-o) (gameplay context)
Because its inclusion is more of an easter egg than anything else, you can see why it may be disregarded by some. It's there, but as a special 'music box' arrangement and not normal/ regular in-game music.
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In all honesty, I like CotM's the best. Not sure why...it sounds kind of happy and peppy...but it's my favorite.
I think the SCIV version sticks in my head the most. Like Rondo's version, too. I checked out that YouTube compilation (the first one), and I'm kind of ashamed that I don't even remember the sound of the remix in the X68000 game, especially since it's so good.
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I've been growing more fond of CotM's version as well.
I think it's because of the different pace and key. CV4 has it in a different key as well but the instrumentation is a tad odd.
Having organs do the melody at the start of the song suits the song.
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@Corneliab:
Yeah, I'm not fond of your irritating responses with inflammatory language, Corneliab, and I've warned you about it before.
It seems you still can't get through your head that in this forum we will have civilized people language, and I won't tolerate peppering your language with insults to sound bigger.
One more time I see this from you and you're getting banned. You've been warned.
@Everyone else:
However, I think you guys missed the link that he put as "Say what now", which caused the confusion.
I will fix the forum's link colors so that links are easier to see.
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Chronicles - Fujimori is in a league of his own.
Rondo of Blood - Rondo's early '90s pop excess is so good, man. The galloping bass is supreme, and the Stalker bit is how you pay homage to something without being overbearing about it.
Dracula's Curse - Bubbly percussion! It's preferable to the Densetsu version, as well.
Harmony of Dissonance - I love Harmony's sharp instrumentation, and a medley together with Clockwork just, uh, works.
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Rondo of Blood - Rondo's early '90s pop excess is so good, man. The galloping bass is supreme, and the Stalker bit is how you pay homage to something without being overbearing about it.
I found Rondo's version to be a little strange. The song pauses around the climax of the tune for a second before it starts up again. For me, this ruined to tune. At least in the SNES version (CV: Dracula X) they fixed it and it sounds much better. I hate it when the put pause gaps in tunes, it just brakes the rhythm.
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Dracula X Chronicles and Judgment will always have the best versions.
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Rondo of Blood, sounds very powerful and dynamic for Vampire Killer.
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Dracula X68000- very dynamical.
Dracula The Arcade- It's just simply amazing.
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Castlevania, I think. After that, I'm going with Rondo of Blood. I actually don't like the CV4 version.
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Rondo of Blood - Rondo's early '90s pop excess is so good, man. The galloping bass is supreme, and the Stalker bit is how you pay homage to something without being overbearing about it.
I found Rondo's version to be a little strange. The song pauses around the climax of the tune for a second before it starts up again. For me, this ruined to tune. At least in the SNES version (CV: Dracula X) they fixed it and it sounds much better. I hate it when the put pause gaps in tunes, it just brakes the rhythm.
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I felt the same, it stopped when it was getting good.
PS: Am I the only one liking Harmony of Despair's Vampire Killer?
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A half-second of silence somehow diminishes the enjoyability of a song? Hum.
I forgot to mention another cool thing about it, though: you can hear bird noises during the intro, solidly tying it into the stage where it's used. Only Rondo and Symphony really do this kind of worldbuilding through their music.
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although i voted RoB, Harmony and dxc versions are better
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I felt the same, it stopped when it was getting good.
PS: Am I the only one liking Harmony of Despair's Vampire Killer?
I liked Harmony of Despair's version, especially that boss drum riff at the beginning. Forgot to vote for it though. >.< I just wish it had Rondo/DXC's extra part towards the end. The song was too short for the stage it was put in.
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Chronicles - Fujimori is in a league of his own.
Rondo of Blood - Rondo's early '90s pop excess is so good, man. The galloping bass is supreme, and the Stalker bit is how you pay homage to something without being overbearing about it.
Dracula's Curse - Bubbly percussion! It's preferable to the Densetsu version, as well.
Harmony of Dissonance - I love Harmony's sharp instrumentation, and a medley together with Clockwork just, uh, works.
Pretty much my thoughts.
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I voted for the SOTN remix, the first moment I heard that song back during the Saturn days, I trembled. It is the first time in my early years to hear such a shocking remix for a song I loved since I played CV1 during first grade.
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I hate to admit it but Judgment has the best Vampire Killer ever. The only thing it got right.
(Glad I'm not alone ;D )
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This by far is my favorite Vampire Killer
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D-aVG_dXXtAg%26p%3D199B4121A6FF465C&p=199B4121A6FF465C&v=-aVG_dXXtAg&gl=US (http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D-aVG_dXXtAg%26p%3D199B4121A6FF465C&p=199B4121A6FF465C&v=-aVG_dXXtAg&gl=US)
also, The Arcade soundtrack is my favorite OST
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I hate to admit it but Judgment has the best Vampire Killer ever. The only thing it got right.
(Glad I'm not alone ;D )
Or rather the soundtrack itself. There wasn't a song on there I didn't like. I mean, that version of Bloody Tears just gets you PUMPED! :D
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IDK, I only liked VK and Alucard's Theme, Bloody tears lost all its classy-feeling, Dance of Illusions was a mess, Beginning was kinda meh, some others were really good but nothing excellent... VK was indeed the best of the bunch, a version like no other before it :)
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IDK, I only liked VK and Alucard's Theme, Bloody tears lost all its classy-feeling, Dance of Illusions was a mess, Beginning was kinda meh, some others were really good but nothing excellent... VK was indeed the best of the bunch, a version like no other before it :)
Okay you just made me remember Beginning. That one was terrible. DXC's Dreams of Triumph was WAY better. And honestly, I loved how heroic Bloody Tears sounded. Dance of Illusions was truly a Dracula-battle theme in this game. Castle Dracula was pretty epic. And there's no way you can hate Darkness of Fear, is there?
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Oh no, Darkness of fear was an absolute highlight ;) (on topic: yeah Judgment has the best VK get over it heheh)
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Voted DXC, but Judgement was a very close second followed by SCV4.
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I liked Harmony of Despair's version, especially that boss drum riff at the beginning. Forgot to vote for it though. >.< I just wish it had Rondo/DXC's extra part towards the end. The song was too short for the stage it was put in.
Sweet, I don't feel so alone anymore.
DXC's Vampire Killer is sweet, though, it's very powerful and it sets the stage for the entrance level.
I do agree that Harmony of Despair should of extended the track. Chapter 10 is massive!
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Castlevania - Amiga (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oIHDudFegk#)
I think we can all agree that the Amiga game has the worst version of Vampire Killer everything. :)
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Totally forgot the existence of that game.
Gosh VK sounded bad on that game.
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I actually think the music in that game is kinda' interesting. It sounds like the tunes from Castlevania... only highly depressed. But those zombies are... uh... yeah. : /
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Castlevania - Amiga (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oIHDudFegk#)
I think we can all agree that the Amiga game has the worst version of Vampire Killer everything. :)
Huh. Looks like a poorly made fan game. Glad I had an NES back in the day. :D
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@Corneliab:
Yeah, I'm not fond of your irritating responses with inflammatory language, Corneliab, and I've warned you about it before.
It seems you still can't get through your head that in this forum we will have civilized people language, and I won't tolerate peppering your language with insults to sound bigger.
One more time I see this from you and you're getting banned. You've been warned.
EDIT by moderation: Ok, goodbye Corneliab.
(http://www.gambling911.com/files/publisher/Banned-011109L_0.jpg?0)
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The Amiga version of CV seems to be torn with me. The music and enemies are terrible while the backgrounds are superb and very detailed. Even more-so the the MSX Vampire Killer.
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Try the MS-DOS version. Its music will hurt your ears.
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Try the MS-DOS version. Its music will hurt your ears.
I don't think MS-DOS is capable to play overlapping sounds... or whatever its limitations it may be.
Turn your speakers down before playing the video below
Castlevania - PC MS-DOS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dM7uZ3imlyo#)
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Haha wow, that's insane.
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The worst rendition of Vampire Killer, I think we have a winner.
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On top of that, you can't even hear it 75% of the time if you're playing regularly!
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On top of that, you can't even hear it 75% of the time if you're playing regularly!
Yeah, I really couldn't explain the mechanics behind the sounds on that game.
I've played many DOS games growing up and all the music were high quality and sound FX did not interrupt the BGM.
I don't know what happened with Castlevania.
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Yeah, I really couldn't explain the mechanics behind the sounds on that game.
I've played many DOS games growing up and all the music were high quality and sound FX did not interrupt the BGM.
I don't know what happened with Castlevania.
It could not stand the awesomeness of Simon, I'm assuming?
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It could not stand the awesomeness of Simon, I'm assuming?
Violence will do that to technology ;)
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It could not stand the awesomeness of Simon, I'm assuming?
Violence will do that to technology ;)
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Simon Belmont, stop whipping my ancient sound systems!
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I voted SotN (1st), Rondo (2nd), and Chronicles (3rd) as my favorites. The grooviness of SotN's rendition makes it my favorite rendition.
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I really liked Rondo's version best of all.
With Chronicles a close second because techno killer just sounds pretty boss to me.
Dawn's version grated on my ears from the first moment I heard it. I just dont like it at all. It sounds almost exactly like the CotM version. (which isnt so hot itself IMO, but had GBA limitations so its ok)
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Really? I thought Dawn's version was cute sounding, but that's just me.