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Title: King Diamond
Post by: Wallachia on July 03, 2011, 05:49:05 AM
VWho here listens to King? What's  your favorite album/story? I've been a long time fan. Mine is probably Abigail. Charon is probably my favorite song tho.

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=EFIuoRyC7Cc (http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=EFIuoRyC7Cc)

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Title: Re: King Diamond
Post by: Mooning Freddy on July 03, 2011, 01:59:27 PM
I've never liked his music too much, even though I know he is an important figure in heavy metal. I just can't stand his vocals. Even though I usually love high vocals, like Rob Halford's or Brian Johnson's, Diamond's manner of singing is going too far, it's just too screeching and annoying IMO.
Title: Re: King Diamond
Post by: Juno106 on July 04, 2011, 01:18:16 AM
Oh please..

I bought Mercyful Fate's Don't Break the Oath even before getting my NES.
The last album I remember hearing was Conspiracy. I thought it had fairly OK tunes though.

None of my friends liked him
Title: Re: King Diamond
Post by: Claimh Solais on July 04, 2011, 01:31:51 AM
I liked metal back when it wasn't all screaming ear-rape.

...

...

...Wait, what?

Nah, I'm kidding. I listen to groups like In Flames, Atreyu and Trivium (and their rock-ish branch Roadrunner United). They're all pretty fierce screaming groups.

This guy, though? Well, look at the last word + last hyphenated word in the top line. I didn't like this one at all.
Title: Re: King Diamond
Post by: JR on July 04, 2011, 04:52:03 AM
The only song I have of his is Mercyful Fate's A Dangerous Meeting. Not too bad. I never really got into him any further than that, though.
Title: Re: King Diamond
Post by: Nail_Bombed on July 04, 2011, 06:58:56 AM
While I enjoy Judas Priest and other high-flying operatic metal bands, I could never really get into King Diamond all that much. That said, this song and video is in equal parts both awesome(guitarwork and songwriting) and hilarious(content and video). GRAAAAAANDMAAAA!

King Diamond - Welcome Home (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJH0eBtnbcs#noexternalembed)
Title: Re: King Diamond
Post by: Chernabogue on July 04, 2011, 07:27:51 AM
I like high-pitched vocals but his voice annoys me.

GRAAAANDMAAAAA!
Title: Re: King Diamond
Post by: Slayer on July 04, 2011, 06:34:44 PM
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This should be served with a surgeon general warning: Will melt your face off.
Title: Re: King Diamond
Post by: Wallachia on July 05, 2011, 05:13:56 AM
Haha, nice one Slayer :))

Cool opinions people. King def. is an aquired taste. I find myself having binges every few months. I love how imaginitive and bold his stories are. If you have the patience, read along as you listen to Abigail, or Them and others. Pretty twisted ghost/undead stories, asnt he singing style fits the moments or what's happening in the chapter of the given story. One album is about the medieval witch trials and the priests raping the nuns, pretty heavy stuff, and not done in a glamourizing way or anything, from The Eye:

King Diamond- Burn (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOvOgOS429Q#)
Title: Re: King Diamond
Post by: Abnormal Freak on July 05, 2011, 09:52:22 AM
I liked metal back when it wasn't all screaming ear-rape.

...

...

...Wait, what?

Nah, I'm kidding. I listen to groups like In Flames, Atreyu and Trivium (and their rock-ish branch Roadrunner United). They're all pretty fierce screaming groups.

This guy, though? Well, look at the last word + last hyphenated word in the top line. I didn't like this one at all.

Err, I think you've got things a bit confused. Though I can't say with In Flames, Atreyu and Trivium definitely rape the ears. Diamond, however (well, of the Mercyful Fate stuff I've heard), is awesome.

But seriously... Knocking King Diamond but admitting a love for Atreyu and Trivium... I cannot express how baffled I am. That's like saying The Stooges are awful but Green Day totally kicks ass—and that's really not a far-off comparison.
Title: Re: King Diamond
Post by: Claimh Solais on July 05, 2011, 10:04:45 AM
But seriously... Knocking King Diamond but admitting a love for Atreyu and Trivium... I cannot express how baffled I am. That's like saying The Stooges are awful but Green Day totally kicks ass—and that's really not a far-off comparison.

Uh... Yeah. That's a pretty far-off comparison.

I compared King Diamond with Atreyu and Trivium. You compared the Stooges with Green Day. (Are we thinking of the same stooges?)

Atreyu's screamer doesn't use a high screaming voice, nor a stupidly low one (like the generic metal bands). Trivium, while their scream can get annoying, their choruses rock, and sound awesome.

King Diamond on the other hand...
Title: Re: King Diamond
Post by: Abnormal Freak on July 05, 2011, 10:34:15 AM
nor a stupidly low one (like the generic metal bands)

Wait. So are you saying all death metal is generic? :p
Title: Re: King Diamond
Post by: Claimh Solais on July 05, 2011, 10:36:26 AM
Wait. So are you saying all death metal is generic? :p

Well...

Wait. How many different types of metal are there? Jeez.
Metal
Death Metal
Speed Metal
Gothic Metal
Go on...
Title: Re: King Diamond
Post by: Dark Nemesis on July 05, 2011, 11:20:36 AM
power metal
thrash metal
industrial metal
doom metal
neoclassical metal
melodic metal
symphonic metal
classical metal
power symphonic metal

I can't remember anything else right now......
Title: Re: King Diamond
Post by: PFG9000 on July 05, 2011, 02:59:12 PM
I'm not really into metal, but I just read through the lyrics to Abigail.  Pretty inventive stuff.  I wish more bands did this, but so many "albums" are just collections of unrelated songs.  You gotta respect an artist that can put a concept album together.  (Unless it's Green Day.  No need to respect them.)

I remember hearing about King Diamond when I was a kid.  Didn't he sing from an altar built of skulls in his concerts, or something like that?
Title: Re: King Diamond
Post by: JR on July 05, 2011, 05:38:21 PM
nor a stupidly low one (like the generic metal bands).

Nothing wrong with some well-done gutteral vocals. Not sure how that's a sign of a generic band, either. O_o
Title: Re: King Diamond
Post by: Wallachia on July 05, 2011, 06:13:20 PM
right on PFG. Exactly.. cool of you to read and see how much work goes into a concept album. I think Flotsam & Jetsom does them here and there too. Love that stuff. Adds another layer to the music :)
Title: Re: King Diamond
Post by: Claimh Solais on July 06, 2011, 12:10:15 AM
Nothing wrong with some well-done gutteral vocals. Not sure how that's a sign of a generic band, either. O_o

Apparently nobody noticed I wrote stupidly low. I like low voices. The Amazing Brando, in particular, delivers them quite well.

...Even though he's not metal.
Title: Re: King Diamond
Post by: JR on July 06, 2011, 03:40:23 AM
Yeah, but I'm talking specifically about guttural vocals, like Cannibal Corpse, Vehemence, etc.
Title: Re: King Diamond
Post by: Claimh Solais on July 06, 2011, 03:43:37 AM
I know, and I understand that. But I'm talking about the guys that feel the need to go so low you can't understand what they're saying. Like, lyrics are required to be with you.
Title: Re: King Diamond
Post by: JR on July 06, 2011, 03:56:03 AM
Yeah, I follow. But then you started talking about how you like low vocals in general, so I wanted to make sure we were talking about the same thing.

It is a style that makes it hard to enunciate with most vocalists, but it fits the mood so well with the music that I don't really care. It's a plus when a vocalists can be perfectly clear in that style, though. Although I'm not much of a fan of the band, Deicide's Serpents of the Light is a perfect example.

Title: Re: King Diamond
Post by: Claimh Solais on July 06, 2011, 04:26:04 AM
Yeah, it's just with me, I prefer to understand what one is saying during metal, cuz they're a buncha mean dudes. Like, for example, he could be saying this while screaming: "I'm gonna slaughter your family and eat your soul and make sure I bury you alive somewhere off the coast of Asia!" And I'd be all like: "DAMN THAZ AWSUM!"

So yeah.

Of course, it's a whole different case for some reason or another when listening to foreign music, but that's a whole different topic.
Title: Re: King Diamond
Post by: JR on July 06, 2011, 04:34:02 AM
One vocalist I wished I could understand better (even though he's still pretty clear nowdays) is Trevor Strnad of The Black Dahlia Murder. I've never heard lyrics so sickening, yet so expertly written. I really think metal lyrics in general are mediocre at best, but this guy makes it an art form by comparison.
Title: Re: King Diamond
Post by: Claimh Solais on July 06, 2011, 04:43:25 AM
Trivium is one group that's never been great at writing lyrics, but the delivery is great... If that makes sense. I've always felt Atreyu had excellent lyrics.
Title: Re: King Diamond
Post by: Wallachia on July 06, 2011, 04:44:30 AM
Speaking of low, gutteral, dark brilliance.. anyone hear the latest Hate Eternal? Abnormal Freak, you would love this shit, listen to the production value:

Haunting Abound, great track, my favorite.. seers right through you, AND you can hear the words, listen:
Hate Eternal "Haunting Abound" (OFFICIAL) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2sjZ8gKois#ws)
Title: Re: King Diamond
Post by: Abnormal Freak on July 06, 2011, 05:37:45 AM
Apparently nobody noticed I wrote stupidly low.

I don't get how "stupidly low" = generic metal. Demilich has incredibly low vocals and they're FAR, far from generic.

Demilich-The Sixteenth Six-Tooth Son of Fourteen Four-Region (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34Ji7iNORK0#)
Title: Re: King Diamond
Post by: Abnormal Freak on July 06, 2011, 05:41:33 AM
Anyway, I may hate Trivium, but the frontman did a good job on vocals on Capharnaum's Fractured...though I'd prefer the guitarist/songwriter/producer had done 'em himself in his Mike DiSalvo-esque voice.

Wallach: I'll check out that tune tomorrow or somethin'. No headphones or speakers at the mome'.