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Title: A Massacre in Norway... And Amy Winehouse is dead.
Post by: Mooning Freddy on July 23, 2011, 05:25:42 PM

Over 90 people were killed in Norway today in a mad, well-planned attack by a right-wing extremist, in what seems to be the greatest shock and catastrophe that hit Norway since ww2.
The initial shock, for me, of a single man capable of performing such a monstrous act, was intensified when I heard the man was caught alive, and that the greatest penalty the juridical system in the country could give him would be 21 years. Although, considering the circumstances, the law could be changed.
With no proper security measures, this could happen anywhere. Safety is an illusion, brothers.

...On another note, Amy Winehouse is dead after a suspected overdose. I wonder if this makes bigger headlines...

Title: Re: A Massacre in Norway... And Amy Winehouse is dead.
Post by: X on July 23, 2011, 06:18:15 PM

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I heard the man was caught alive, and that the greatest penalty the juridical system in the country could give him would be 21 years.

Maybe they'll deport his worthless @$$ to a European country that still used the Death penalty.

Title: Re: A Massacre in Norway... And Amy Winehouse is dead.
Post by: Gunlord on July 23, 2011, 06:43:08 PM

What a horrible tragedy :( Why would anyone do something like that?

Title: Re: A Massacre in Norway... And Amy Winehouse is dead.
Post by: JR on July 23, 2011, 09:59:23 PM

Quote from: Drunken Freddy on July 23, 2011, 05:25:42 PM

The initial shock, for me, of a single man capable of performing such a monstrous act, was intensified when I heard the man was caught alive, and that the greatest penalty the juridical system in the country could give him would be 21 years. Although, considering the circumstances, the law could be changed.

I remember hearing about this from when Varg Vikernes was found guilty of church arsons and for murdering Oystein Aarseth (Euronymous of the band Mayhem). Also, Varg himself equated Norwegian prison to summer camp, since he had his own cell, had access to his own computer, could read all sorts of books at his own leisure, etc. He even was granted leave several times to see his family (leading to one time where he was found in a hijacked car with various weapons and gear, in an attempt to join the French Foreign Legion, or something). To top that off, he was also released early, after serving 16 years, I think.

I hope they consider changing the law so this guy rots in prison for the rest of his life. But still, it doesn't sound like Norwegian prison is very harsh at all (at least from what little I've heard).  :-\ Though, what this guy did is far worse than what Varg did, so maybe his prison time isn't a good example.

Title: Re: A Massacre in Norway... And Amy Winehouse is dead.
Post by: Gunlord on July 25, 2011, 06:11:39 AM

I heard he used weapons stolen from the Norwegian armed forces. You'd think they'd have better security at their bases and stuff...~_~

Title: Re: A Massacre in Norway... And Amy Winehouse is dead.
Post by: shelverton. on July 25, 2011, 02:12:42 PM

Also, this;

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Al-Qaeda Massacre? Right. The world is getting dumber by the minute.

Title: Re: A Massacre in Norway... And Amy Winehouse is dead.
Post by: X on July 25, 2011, 04:17:25 PM

Looks like America's still riding the 9/11 train that everybody else is sick of hearing.

Title: Re: A Massacre in Norway... And Amy Winehouse is dead.
Post by: Mooning Freddy on July 25, 2011, 04:25:53 PM

Quote from: shelverton. on July 25, 2011, 02:12:42 PM

Also, this;

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Al-Qaeda Massacre? Right. The world is getting dumber by the minute.

They got their numbers wrong, for some strange reason put "20 dead" in commas, AND wrote Al-Qaeda on a massacre performed by an islamophobic extremist?
Well done. All I can say.

Seems like the murderer is a radical anti-Islamist who planted a bomb near the government offices for supporting Muslim immigration into his country. He attacked the people (mostly teenagers) on the island because many of them were immigrants.
Ironically, it also seems like the guy is a enthusiastic supporter of Israel, because he thinks the country (unlike Europe) does not grant its Arab population civil rights (quite a huge lie, obviously fed by leftist Western media, hehe). And I say, with friends like that, who needs enemies?  :P

Title: Re: A Massacre in Norway... And Amy Winehouse is dead.
Post by: JR on July 25, 2011, 06:45:38 PM

Quote from: X on July 25, 2011, 04:17:25 PM

Looks like America's still riding the 9/11 train that everybody else is sick of hearing.

Isn't the Sun a UK newspaper??

Title: Re: A Massacre in Norway... And Amy Winehouse is dead.
Post by: Bloodreign on July 25, 2011, 11:35:49 PM

It's a UK tabloid, trash mag.

Title: Re: A Massacre in Norway... And Amy Winehouse is dead.
Post by: bucky on July 26, 2011, 03:59:57 AM

If this tragedy hasn't fully settled in for some people, here are some excerpts from survivors translated by my friend from Norway.

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I'm gonna translate some excerpts from stories told by the survivors of the shootings. I'm not gonna translate their whole stories cause most of them are several pages long. But hopefully, it sheds some light for some of you how grusome this was for them. The shootings took place for over an hour before cops could mobilize and get over to the island due to being diverted by the bomb first, and during this hour, the youths on the island were hunted like wild game.

-The perpetrator shot fallen people in the head to ensure they were dead. He took no chances in leaving any behind. Many were shot several times.
Dana Barzingi

-It looked like he wanted to kill absolutely everyone, no one was to be spared. ...I was shot several times, my leg was covered in blood. We ran to the waterside and did everything to stay alive. I jumped into the water, I can't swim but I held onto some rocks. Around me were 20 dead bodies.
Hussein Kazemi

-We were 20-30 people in my group when he started shooting. When he was done, there was only 5 left. We hid in a small cave by the water side. Many of us were fatally wounded, but none of us dared to move.
Thorbjørn Vereide (22)

I was standing in the main hall when panic erupted. I heard gunshots, I saw him shoot. Everyone started running. The first thing that came to mind was: "Why is the police shooting at us, what the fuck?!". I ran into the lounge. People ran, screamed. I was scared. I managed to get myself into a room in the far back of the building. Many of us were in there. We were all on the floor. We heard several shots. I started crying, unable to understand. I saw my best friend outside through the window and contemplated running out to get him. I didn't make it in time....I saw the fear in his eyes...
-Prableen Kaur (22)

-First thing he did was to shoot the first cute girl he saw. I hid by the water for 45 minutes, but we saw no end in sight, so we started swimming in hope to make it onto the mainland. Our clothes got too heavy though, and we had to turn back before drowning in the cold water. We found a small cave along the side of the island. At one point the shooter passed by us, he was throwing rocks into the water to fish us out, and then shoot us.
Marius Helander Røset

-I was a few feet away from him, on the ground pretending I was dead. He was screaming that we were all gonna die. ...He came closer, I could hear him breathing, i could see his boots. He eventually left and we jumped into the water. I had serious doubts I would survive. Looking back, I saw the shooter return and shoot several more where we had just escaped. I was hit in the shoulder, but it's not the physical pain that is the worst. Of course it hurts to get shot at, but it is much more painful to lose my friends.

An 11 year old boy came and told me that his dad was dead and ran away in panic. The situation was so chaotic that the kid could just not hide and take cover. Then I saw the shooter spot the child and run towards him. The kid screamed at the shooter «Don't shoot me, you already shot enough. You killed my dad, I'm too young to die.»
Adrian Pracon (21)

-I walked along the waterside that I saw someone laying there. I walked over as I looked up and prayed to God. I lifted the wounded up. I laid him down, took his hat off, it was my good friend. I saw the bullet in his head. I couldn't react to it, all i could was kiss hinm on the cheek and walk back to my hiding place. ...I began to swim, I heard people shouting that they are panicking. "Keep your head above water, swim, BREATH!" I shouted at them. I began to back stroke to save energy, I saw the island, I saw him... He was wearing a police uniform, blonde hair, white skin, I saw his police cap and I saw his weapon. He noticed us in the water, took aim and started shooting. A person in front of me was hit, blood began to flow out, all I could do was swim faster.
Emma Martinovic (18)

"The man with the gun was running behind us, chasing us, he hunted us all down."
Lisa-Marie Husby (19)

-I got far enough away from the island that I felt safe he couldn't hit me. I looked back, and there I saw several of my friends being slaughtered with my own eyes.
Mette Valle

Hopefully for those of you that just read this casually, you'll realize the horror of it all.

Title: Re: A Massacre in Norway... And Amy Winehouse is dead.
Post by: X on July 26, 2011, 06:46:03 AM

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Isn't the Sun a UK newspaper??

Thanks for the correction, I wasn't sure. But it makes little difference unfortunately.

Title: Re: A Massacre in Norway... And Amy Winehouse is dead.
Post by: Renonsgoods on July 30, 2011, 05:34:43 PM

Quote from: X on July 26, 2011, 06:46:03 AM

Thanks for the correction, I wasn't sure. But it makes little difference unfortunately.

Then what was your point? 

Title: Re: A Massacre in Norway... And Amy Winehouse is dead.
Post by: Claimh Solais on July 31, 2011, 04:12:20 AM

I still am kind of disappointed with the society I live in that find Amy Winehouse's death is much sadder than 90 people dying elsewhere.

Don't get me wrong, it's terrible that anyone died.

Title: Re: A Massacre in Norway... And Amy Winehouse is dead.
Post by: Renonsgoods on July 31, 2011, 09:12:41 PM

I wasn't even aware that Amy Winehouse was such a big deal.  I've only heard her name in passing the last few years...can't even think of a single song of hers that I've heard.  But considering how celebrity-obsessed popular culture has become during the last 10 years, I'm not surprised that the wreckless ending to her tragic life is getting more press than an ACTUAL human tragedy like what happened in Norway.  No disrespect meant towards Ms. Winehouse, but considering she was merely a victim of her own demons I can't see how she's deserving of so much press.  Just a sad reflection on society as a whole if you ask me.

Title: Re: A Massacre in Norway... And Amy Winehouse is dead.
Post by: Claimh Solais on August 01, 2011, 09:51:32 AM

Quote from: Renonsgoods on July 31, 2011, 09:12:41 PM

I wasn't even aware that Amy Winehouse was such a big deal.  I've only heard her name in passing the last few years...can't even think of a single song of hers that I've heard.  But considering how celebrity-obsessed popular culture has become during the last 10 years, I'm not surprised that the wreckless ending to her tragic life is getting more press than an ACTUAL human tragedy like what happened in Norway.  No disrespect meant towards Ms. Winehouse, but considering she was merely a victim of her own demons I can't see how she's deserving of so much press.  Just a sad reflection on society as a whole if you ask me.

THIS exactly. Really disappoints me that more people don't pay attention to what happened in Norway. I swear, on Facebook, every day, I'd see about 800 posts about Amy Winehouse, and not a single one about Norway. (So I did the honors and posted about it myself)

By the way, on terms of her music, you're not really missing anything you haven't already heard before.

Again, I mean no disrespect towards Amy Winehouse, but I'd like it if more people where I live actually gave a damn about the incident in Norway.

Title: Re: A Massacre in Norway... And Amy Winehouse is dead.
Post by: JR on August 01, 2011, 06:24:18 PM

I've heard much, much more about what happened in Norway than I have of Winehouse...but I'm not surprised to hear that people are making a bigger deal about her death, either. Especially since it sounds like her life was such a mess, and people really love to latch onto that sort of stuff.

Title: Re: A Massacre in Norway... And Amy Winehouse is dead.
Post by: Vampire Killer on August 03, 2011, 04:03:27 AM

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...And Amy Winehouse is dead.

Who doesn't already know this? Girl has has been dead for years. I guess even as a zombie she could still sing.


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