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Title: Best Marvel movie of the year
Post by: darkjak951 on July 24, 2011, 02:55:49 AM
I think we are done with Marvel movies for the year so it begs the question, which of these three did you like more? Here are my thoughts:
Thor: Was a nice and cheezy movie that didn't really do anything risky or impressive. The thing that hurts this movie for me was how Odin punished Thor, in the comics when Odin banishes Thor to earth he is turned into an old man to learn humility. How is keeping him a buff dude teaching him humility? Also Jane Foster's relationship with him was extremely rushed. Not horrible but easily the weakest of the three movies, but enjoyable nonetheless.
Xmen First Class: Easily my new favorite Xmen movie right up there with the second one. It told the past of Xavier and Magneto in an interesting way and while it didn't really follow the comics, it did it's own thing and worked with it. The acting was great, the action scenes were cool, and the characters were well represented. My only complaint is that they kind of rushed the ending a little, but its kind of a minor complaint.
Captain America: I was so excited to hear one of my favorite Avengers would be getting his own movie, and it was great! It told the story very well and they gave a good explanation as to why he deserved his powers. Also it had the most believable relationship in a marvel movie to date, it was built up well and wasn't rushed like Thor. The action scenes were very cool too, I liked some of the nifty things Cap did with his sheild, and the Hydra soldiers looked really cool. My only complaint was Red Skull, I felt that he could have been a better villain in this movie but I love the guy who acted him(he also did Mr. Anderson in The Matrix I believe) and it wasn't terrible just kinda generic. Great movie though.
So my favorite has to be: Captain America. It just got so much right in my opinion, it had great characters, set pieces, and it was just a blast to watch. First Class WAS my favorite before this movie, it is very close though it's glaring issue mostly being it's ending. So what did you guys think?
Title: Re: Best Marvel movie of the year
Post by: Bloodreign on July 24, 2011, 04:27:44 AM
Have only seen Thor, can't really form an opinion on the others. Thor kept me entertained enough, but it felt slow, just like Iron Man 1 and 2, and right around the same part, the middle.
Title: Re: Best Marvel movie of the year
Post by: Aridale on July 24, 2011, 01:57:01 PM
Ive only seen First Class from the new Marvel movies so I cant really judge fairly either. Xmen was pretty damn good
Title: Re: Best Marvel movie of the year
Post by: Nail_Bombed on July 24, 2011, 11:56:35 PM
Enjoyed both Thor and X-Men... more X-Men than Thor as Thor was mostly fun but very thin on plot really. First Class really surpassed the first movie IMO. Can't wait to have a look at Cap America... and roll on The Avengers!
Title: Re: Best Marvel movie of the year
Post by: X on July 25, 2011, 01:31:34 AM
I've noted several problems with Thor. One of those issues is that they have multiple races acting as Norse gods. That goes against what Norse gods are. Nordic people. It was not well thought out. My brother Also felt that they should've had a really tall and bulky man play Thor rather then what was given. I have yet to see Captain America but since it's essentually a WWII-ish file I might enjoy it.
Title: Re: Best Marvel movie of the year
Post by: darkmanx_429 on July 25, 2011, 04:21:03 PM
First Class for sure. I saw that one at the theater and was pretty entertained the whole movie. They even fixed that whole deal with Magneto's costume and Wolvie made a short cameo. Alot of people hated on Origins but I loved that movie. It had a gritty feel to it unlike the over the top x-men movies. (Not that they were bad, I'm a big fan of the 2nd one.) I got the same feeling with First Class, new cast and all. Xavier and Erik rocked that movie! It really was put together well. I think the only movie I liked better was TF3.
Title: Re: Best Marvel movie of the year
Post by: Bloodreign on July 31, 2011, 04:32:31 AM
Saw Captain America couple days ago, in 3D. The movie impressed me, the 3D effects actually felt like they worked for this film (I actually ducked at one part of this film), lots of buildup though before he becomes the comic book character we know him as. Ending was rather nice too, good thing they put it in there, but sadly didn't stay around long enough for The Avengers trailer at the end of the credits, damn. :(
Title: Re: Best Marvel movie of the year
Post by: Stasonio on August 01, 2011, 12:43:24 PM
Choosing the best movie is tough, but you all got to admit, First Class's Wolverine cameo was certainly the best (or at least the most hilarious) scene by far!
Title: Re: Best Marvel movie of the year
Post by: KaZudra on August 04, 2011, 07:23:09 PM
Marvel should really stop doing the X-men films until they can find writers who know anything about continuity.
other than the Complete shift of character Magneto has at the end.... and that silly ass helmet.... and that silly ass villian who wears it,
First class was pretty entertaining, but Severely has continuity errors.

That or Reboot the first 3 movies with a new 3
Title: Re: Best Marvel movie of the year
Post by: crisis on August 04, 2011, 08:11:36 PM
Um, Marvel Studios has nothing to do with the X-Men movies. Blame FOX for screwing up the franchise.

Marvel Studios is responsible for Incredible Hulk, Iron Man 1&2, Thor, CapAm & Avengers. Everything else (Spider-Man, etc.) belong to different studios under different contracts.

edit: Also, did anyone notice First Class was the first Marvel movie to NOT feature a Stan Lee cameo??
Title: Re: Best Marvel movie of the year
Post by: KaZudra on August 04, 2011, 09:57:14 PM
Um, Marvel Studios has nothing to do with the X-Men movies. Blame FOX for screwing up the franchise.

Marvel Studios is responsible for Incredible Hulk, Iron Man 1&2, Thor, CapAm & Avengers. Everything else (Spider-Man, etc.) belong to different studios under different contracts.

edit: Also, did anyone notice First Class was the first Marvel movie to NOT feature a Stan Lee cameo??

True, and thx for giving me the true purps behind the X-Men Story massacre.

Is Marvel studios doing the new spiderman?
Title: Re: Best Marvel movie of the year
Post by: darkjak951 on August 05, 2011, 06:37:16 PM
Marvel should really stop doing the X-men films until they can find writers who know anything about continuity.
other than the Complete shift of character Magneto has at the end.... and that silly ass helmet.... and that silly ass villian who wears it,
First class was pretty entertaining, but Severely has continuity errors.

That or Reboot the first 3 movies with a new 3

Keep in mind that what the creator of first class did was take the general past of Xavier and Erik but changed it. Its not meant to be in the main continuity, it is in a continuity of it's own and I think it does a lot of things BETTER than what the comics did. Every actor was believable and all the events that lead up to the final showdown made sense! I especially loved Beast's development, that was a very interesting take on him. Really saying that it has continuity errors is kinda redundant when the creator didn't even intend it to be in the same continuity as the main movie series of the comics, he did his own thing. No different from the creator of the last 2 batman films and the upcoming third one, those movies deviate heavily from the source material and yet they were still highly praised movies for good reasons.
Title: Re: Best Marvel movie of the year
Post by: darkmanx_429 on October 26, 2011, 01:46:46 AM
Um, Marvel Studios has nothing to do with the X-Men movies. Blame FOX for screwing up the franchise.

Marvel Studios is responsible for Incredible Hulk, Iron Man 1&2, Thor, CapAm & Avengers. Everything else (Spider-Man, etc.) belong to different studios under different contracts.

edit: Also, did anyone notice First Class was the first Marvel movie to NOT feature a Stan Lee cameo??
Not true, are you forgetting Blade? But, apparantly Stan had an appearance in the movie, but they cut it out...
Title: Re: Best Marvel movie of the year
Post by: Mooning Freddy on October 26, 2011, 06:58:48 PM
Is Marvel studios doing the new spiderman?

Could anybody PLEASE tell me why the hell are they remaking the Spiderman story?
PLEASE?? Pretty please?? It's been less than 10 years since the original movie. That teenage wannabe drama doesn't NEED a remake. That sounds like a lame excuse to squeeze more money out of nerdy Marvel fanboys, like that totally unnecessary remake of Conan the Barbarian. 
Dammit Hollywood, stop selling us that crap.   
Title: Re: Best Marvel movie of the year
Post by: knightmere on October 26, 2011, 07:10:50 PM
Could anybody PLEASE tell me why the hell are they remaking the Spiderman story?
PLEASE?? Pretty please?? It's been less than 10 years since the original movie. That teenage wannabe drama doesn't NEED a remake. That sounds like a lame excuse to squeeze more money out of nerdy Marvel fanboys, like that totally unnecessary remake of Conan the Barbarian. 
Dammit Hollywood, stop selling us that crap.   

I agree this is starting to get ridiculous. BTW no one will ever be a better Conan than Arnold, the guy was freaking born to play that role!
Title: Re: Best Marvel movie of the year
Post by: Nail_Bombed on October 26, 2011, 07:58:25 PM
Thor, I felt, punched far underneath what could have been considerable cinematic weight, given the pedigree of it's director. Did well at the box office, but that's not everything. There still has to be plot there.

X-Men was excellent, notwithstanding Kevin Bacon's meh performance, and thoroughly erased the memory of the debacle that was The Last Stand from my mind. I actually enjoyed Origins : Wolverine a lot more than that aforementioned.

Captain America was everything Thor wasn't: an enjoyable cheesy Marvel romp. And also better for having more substance to the film than Thor.
Title: Re: Best Marvel movie of the year
Post by: Mooning Freddy on October 26, 2011, 08:28:51 PM
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BTW no one will ever be a better Conan than Arnold, the guy was freaking born to play that role!

QFT, and also I think the 1982 film is a true underrated masterpiece. It's a tale of fantasy that has something which more recent fantasy films lack. So many great scenes in the movie, like the memorable Wheel of Pain (the whole scene is so metaphoric it deserves an award).
Arnold's Conan is a fascinating character. He is a man of action and talks very little, much less than other characters. He is the complete opposite of Tulsa Doom, a tyrant turned cult-leader who uses his tongue to seduce followers in his plot to become all-powerful.
I wonder if that is Conan's personality as described by Roger Howard.
Title: Re: Best Marvel movie of the year
Post by: KaZudra on October 27, 2011, 05:12:17 AM
Thor Kinda Sucked, there wasn't anything interesting to go on in the first place, hell Thor as the character kinda sucks being the not-so this or that.

X-Men First Class... I wanna say I love it, I REALLY do, but there was alot of stupid shit forced into the movie to really enjoy it, I'll give a good example...
Magneto at the last act, boy this pisses me off on many occasions. not only did he do a 180 for no reason, at that point he also somehow completely master his powers.
I call major Bullshits on that.
Plus every scene with Kevin Bacon made me laugh on how goofy that shit was.
everything else in the movie was really enjoyable though, there were more sweet spots than sour ones, but boy the sour ones were bad.

Captain America was a perfect superhero movie where it balances the goofyness and the serious parts in the right proportions, every actor took thier role seriously and had fun with it as well. I expect the new spiderman to have this formula.
Title: Re: Best Marvel movie of the year
Post by: uzo on October 27, 2011, 11:23:40 AM
Magneto at the last act, boy this pisses me off on many occasions. not only did he do a 180 for no reason, at that point he also somehow completely master his powers.

It sounds like you weren't paying attention then.
Title: Re: Best Marvel movie of the year
Post by: KaZudra on October 27, 2011, 02:14:18 PM
It sounds like you weren't paying attention then.
I must have missed something sinse Charles Read his thoughts pretty much throughout the movie and he never Floated til that point (Besides the fact that there wasn't enough metal on the costumes to do so IMO)
my big problem is that he never showed any type of change in his motives other than Pride and Revenge only on Kevin Bacon.
I was atually shocked how well written Magneto was until that last point.