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Title: the great Debate! Console vs. Emulation, GO!
Post by: KaZudra on August 01, 2011, 02:54:02 PM
Topic.

Personally I prefer Original Console for anything PSone and under
but if emulation can enhance the game like the PS2 and Gc/Wii emulator, I prefer them simply because it like those were ment to be rendered at high res.
Title: Re: the great Debate! Console vs. Emulation, GO!
Post by: OdenAndEvil on August 01, 2011, 03:32:11 PM
I prefer original games with the console. I just need to put the game in it, turn power on and grab the controller. no settings. just me, the controller, a big tv screen and some pixels. (: i just love it that way. Playin Resident Evil I on an emulator would never be the same like on playstation.
Title: Re: the great Debate! Console vs. Emulation, GO!
Post by: Abnormal Freak on August 01, 2011, 03:43:14 PM
I don't have a big preference either way. I just use what runs well.

In the case of the NES and Genesis, I can't get those to output in S-Video or component, so I play them emulated through the Wii, and they look so much better. Plus the Genesis has so many different models of varying sound quality, I'm basically getting the best of audio and video through emulation. I'll never have to plug in a Genesis again.
Title: Re: the great Debate! Console vs. Emulation, GO!
Post by: X on August 01, 2011, 06:54:25 PM
I use either-or. If there's a game I want to play that I don't have then I'll emulate it. If there's a game and a console that I have neither of then I'll emulate.
Title: Re: the great Debate! Console vs. Emulation, GO!
Post by: Gunlord on August 01, 2011, 06:54:51 PM
Emulation all the way. It's easier to take screencaps and rip sprites and stuff, and that leads to a lot of fun. Just look at my usericon 8)
Title: Re: the great Debate! Console vs. Emulation, GO!
Post by: Profbeanburrito on August 01, 2011, 07:45:25 PM
While I like both and use them often, I love having a physical copy of the things I like. I feel the same about downloadable games in general.

I guess emulation is just convenient, but if I had to choose I'd take a physical console copy of a game, just can't afford them all!

also, I only use emulation on old games, I refuse to emulate sometng like DS games for example
Title: Re: the great Debate! Console vs. Emulation, GO!
Post by: Bloodreign on August 01, 2011, 09:53:14 PM
Hell no to emulation other than playing games that have no console ports on MAME, games I don't own console or handheld, FM Towns Marty and X68000 games I'd never get any other way to play. Or to test the next Saturn or PS 1 game to buy.

Real console all the way, I collect games so that I can proudly own and play them when in the mood for a certain game. Wii has VC, that's emulation, but I'd rather it for NES, SNES or Genesis games that are pricey due to rarity or popularity, ala Super Fantasy Zone or U-Four-ia. It's also good for playing TG16/PCE games because I have no system, and good for the few PCE CD games that I own real copies of.
Title: Re: the great Debate! Console vs. Emulation, GO!
Post by: JR on August 02, 2011, 02:26:03 AM
I use emulation as sort of a last resort: mostly for arcade games that haven't been released on an online marketplace. (BTW, it sure would've been nice if we had seen more classic arcade releases on XBox Live and Game Room. But now everything is a half-baked remake instead of a faithful port with optional enhancements.)

I'm lucky enough to have two really good used game stores within several blocks of where I live, so I physically own about 80-90% of the retro games that I want. Nothing beats playing on the original console for me.
Title: Re: the great Debate! Console vs. Emulation, GO!
Post by: Maedhros on August 02, 2011, 08:11:59 AM
The original experience is always superior. The original controller, the original games... these are more important than enhancements the emulators can offer.

That being said, I still use emulators, a lot, because I can't have all the consoles I wanted to have.
Title: Re: the great Debate! Console vs. Emulation, GO!
Post by: Deko21 on August 02, 2011, 11:31:20 AM
For sure, console is better. Cause owning the game feels alot better than just downloading it for free. (plus you can oggle the cartridge/cd/whatever/ :P)

Plus its best if the game is played on its original console.
Title: Re: the great Debate! Console vs. Emulation, GO!
Post by: thernz on August 02, 2011, 11:36:38 AM
I feel guilty when I emulate. I have a big heart.
But most games are just inherently better to control with the controllers they were meant to be controlled by. Then there's all the settings that the console had. It's just the optimal experience because that's what the developers intended.

dont need no high res up in here no get out of here
Title: Re: the great Debate! Console vs. Emulation, GO!
Post by: Sumac on August 02, 2011, 11:50:05 AM
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Hell no to emulation other than playing games that have no console ports on MAME, games I don't own console or handheld, FM Towns Marty and X68000 games I'd never get any other way to play. Or to test the next Saturn or PS 1 game to buy.
So basically "yes" to emulation. Nice one.

Title: Re: the great Debate! Console vs. Emulation, GO!
Post by: Bloodreign on August 02, 2011, 07:16:49 PM
So basically "yes" to emulation. Nice one.

No, let me say this again, only to stuff I don't own, or Japanese PC's I'd never be able to afford. The games I own I will not play in emulation, I have used emulation mainly to see what I want to own. If you had talked to me 5-10 years ago, then it would've been yes. But now that I collect cartridge and CD/DVD games, I'm less pro-emulation as I prefer to play my games on the consoles they were intended for.

The two good things emulation has brought to us is that companies have made retro compilations, many run via MAME or some sort of emulation, and the preservation of classic/retro games. Too many downsides to emulation, games don't sound right, graphical glitches not seen on real consoles, wrong colors, speed not always up to snuff, and framerate issues, something present for sure in MAME that can make a difference in shmups.
Title: Re: the great Debate! Console vs. Emulation, GO!
Post by: Gunlord on August 02, 2011, 07:26:35 PM
I think emulatronics does have some advantages, though--aside from the stuff like sprite rips I mentioned above, there's also translation patches. For instance, as y'all know, I used to hang around the Fire Emblem fandom (still do, to an extent), and the only way to play some of those games *in English* was via emulation, specifically to append the translation patches to ROM-kuns. So I think there are some advantages to emulation u_u
Title: Re: the great Debate! Console vs. Emulation, GO!
Post by: Pemburu Vampir on August 02, 2011, 08:42:01 PM
How about a Flashcart for the DS! don't need cartridges and it plays games perfectly.
Title: Re: the great Debate! Console vs. Emulation, GO!
Post by: Sumac on August 02, 2011, 09:47:32 PM
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I'm less pro-emulation as I prefer to play my games on the consoles they were intended for.
I understand that. But in previous post it sounded as if you strictly against emulation...and you still used for the quite amount of games. Saying in that situation that you are strictly against emulation is a bit of a strange.
Title: Re: the great Debate! Console vs. Emulation, GO!
Post by: KaZudra on August 03, 2011, 05:06:38 AM
How about a Flashcart for the DS! don't need cartridges and it plays games perfectly.

that counts as real deal since you are playing the same game on the original Platform.
you just have 50 more game to choose from on that Card.
Title: Re: the great Debate! Console vs. Emulation, GO!
Post by: CastleToastM on August 05, 2011, 12:34:26 AM
that counts as real deal since you are playing the same game on the original Platform.
you just have 50 more game to choose from on that Card.

But you're still using roms, not the real game that you bought yourself.

I personally don't believe that it counts as playing the real thing.

You're playing the game on the platform it was meant for, but you're stll playing nothing but a rom.
Title: Re: the great Debate! Console vs. Emulation, GO!
Post by: Abnormal Freak on August 05, 2011, 02:21:03 AM
...a ROM that plays identically to the real deal since it virtually is.

:O
Title: Re: the great Debate! Console vs. Emulation, GO!
Post by: ShinAkumaXX on August 05, 2011, 10:37:00 AM
I originally downloaded ZSNES so I could play Tales of Phantasia in English. Then Rockman & Forte, and some other stuff. It's nice to be able to save whenever I want too. In case I gotta run or for some reason don't feel like playing all the way through Mario 3 in one sitting. Mame gives me the chance to play some cool shooters like Xexex that I never would get to play otherwise. I have a ton of roms on my computer and various emulators, but I never play them for long. It just doesn't feel the same as playing on a console. I'm glad to get the chance to play games I didn't have and being able to play translated games. It might be that I'm not a big PC game either. I just don't like sitting at my computer playing games. Also as others say, timing feels off sometimes, graphic glitches, and most annoying sound issues are most heinous. I prefer console for sure, but am glad emulation exist so I can try stuff, or maybe play something real quick without messing with getting stuff out (I happen to own most games I play with emulators). Also... I only like using emulation for old school stuff, to me meaning NES, SNES, TG-16, Neo-Geo, MAME, CPS1, and CPS2.
Title: Re: the great Debate! Console vs. Emulation, GO!
Post by: KaZudra on August 05, 2011, 12:37:18 PM
I'm also quite certain everyone here has an oppritunity to play all Castlevania Games (Except LoS and HD) through Emulation, even the Ps2 ones (which I do since I no longer have a PS2 and Ps2 looks like crap on an HDTV.)
Title: Re: the great Debate! Console vs. Emulation, GO!
Post by: Pemburu Vampir on August 05, 2011, 03:44:13 PM
Yep. That's how I was able to play almost all Castlevania games. I still need to find CoD and Judgment though.